2024 Comic Creators Fantasy Draft w/ Badr (The Short Box) & Greg (First Issue Club)

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Hello, this is James Tynan IV, the writer of Something is Killing the Children, Nice House on the Lake, Department of Truth, and Spectograph.

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And you are listening to the Oblivion Bar Podcast.

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Welcome to the Oblivion Bar podcast with your host Chris Hacker and Aaron Knowles.

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Hello everyone and welcome to episode 174 of the Oblivion Bar podcast.

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This week we are bringing back one of our fan favorite segments and assembling a team of our favorite comic book giants, our comic book creator, Fantasy Draft.

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Now, as you guys can see, I'm sure Aaron is not with us this week.

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Instead, I'm going to introduce two of my best friends, not only in the comic book world, but just in the normal day-to-day life.

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are commonly known as the Comic Gents, I'm gonna introduce them each individually here.

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Up first, we have one third of the Kansas City based comic book podcast First Issue Club, where they discuss that week's first issues every Friday when I open up my podcasting app, the FIC is the first up on my queue.

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So I'm thrilled to welcome back my good buddy and president of your local Muppets fan club, Greg Licti here on the show.

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Welcome, Greg.

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Hi, hey, hello, welcome.

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Good to be here.

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And ironically enough, you you're wearing a particular shirt today.

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So I am wearing a like bootleg Muppet movie shirt.

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And Chris, I have to tell you, when I got the show notes, I saw that little mention in there of, you know, local chapter president of the Muppet Club.

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And I looked down and I saw that I was wearing a Muppet shirt.

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And I thought for a second, I was like, do I change?

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Do I change the shirt?

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And I said, no, no.

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This is who I am.

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This is who I am at my core.

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I can't deny who I am.

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So I decided to keep on the Muppet shirt.

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and just represent the only way I know how, which is authentic.

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You know, and we didn't know that that wasn't planned.

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Anybody that everybody that was that was totally just off the like you hopped on the call, read the transcript, saw that I was mentioning them up.

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That's and it just made too much sense.

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It's like I knew.

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Yeah, you're like, yeah, yeah.

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I'm almost an out fan club.

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know, either or I don't have any out paraphernalia.

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They NECA was selling one for San Diego Comic Con, but they had to cancel all the orders because they didn't have enough.

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I missed my chance to own an elf shirt.

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Well, let's bring in our other special guest here.

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Special co-host, should say.

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He is one of the true trailblazers in the comic book podcasting world with that silky smooth voice behind the short box.

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A comic book talk show for the last 12 years.

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This man has been preaching the good word about Silver Age keys and ratio variance before it was cool.

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Bottom Milligan is coming back.

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He's back on the show to assemble his comic creator team.

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Now get this.

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He reads comic books.

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That's me, baby.

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What up?

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You oblivion bar.

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If that does not come through in the recording, I have to I have to grab that snippet from you so I can add it on my end.

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People need to hear that.

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Catch me if you can.

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Has so many good sound bites for a comic podcast to just pillage.

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And I've that.

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Man, I'm so excited to be here.

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I have thought about this all day because aside from the little kickback I just got from Earlier today, this is the second source of happiness for me today.

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Cause the Jacksonville Jaguars did not provide any.

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All three of our teams.

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They did.

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Yeah.

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All three.

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Look, look.

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Your two teams combined did not lose as bad as the Jags did on their own.

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So yeah, I've been in a bummer, but this has been, I've been looking forward to this, man.

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I cannot wait.

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Yeah.

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This is very exciting.

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As we said, or as I said there in the opening, this has been one of our, you know, more fan favorite segments.

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People keep asking.

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it, when we're going to bring this back, you know, last year we had Brad from the common couple's counseling and Sal from calling pop on it is to date the most listened to oblivion bar episode of all time.

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Now I, I'm not going to, I'll say that that's maybe some part, the actual context of the episode, the subject matter.

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sure, I'm sure people enjoy hearing us talk about this, but I also sort of give a lot of credit to their listenership coming over and listening to that episode over on our feed.

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So I think that this has the legs to have a similar effect because we got the comic gents together everybody.

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And a lot of times when we hang out, we're over on the short box.

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I don't know if we've ever had the comic gents.

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We've had the comic gents on the first Hitchi Club one time, right?

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Yeah.

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We're completing the trifecta today though.

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That's right.

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The C2E2 episode.

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yeah.

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That's right.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Well, it's nice to have you three, or you two gentlemen, having us three together all on the same call again.

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Real quick, one shameless plug before we get into the comic creator draft.

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I'm talking to two patrons right now, and I'm also a patron on both of your shows.

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So we're just kind of cancel each other out.

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And that's totally cool.

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I want the extra content.

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I want the explicit fan fiction that you and Aaron write about different comic book characters.

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That's me through my Wednesday, to be honest.

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On the Patreon episodes, I could hear shit like this.

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You egg-sucking piece of gutter trash.

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Which is always an interesting thing when it comes to fellow comic podcasts where we're like, look, on the Patreon episodes of where we get loose and goosey, there's no filter, things like that.

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It's like, you want to how we really feel.

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Yeah, go on to the Patreon.

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You'll hear my true opinions about Tom King.

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Go to Patreon.

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Yeah.

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But it's like, you know, on the front facing episodes, everything is dandy.

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Yeah, we try to put on our best smiles and keep everything nice and round and rosy.

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But yeah, over on Patreon, it gets a little nasty.

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So anyway, let's get into our main topic here.

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Let's go ahead and get into this comic creator fantasy.

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Alrighty, here we are.

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We are here at our second annual or our 2024 comic book creator, fantasy draft.

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Everyone again, if you haven't listened that first episode, I will have it in the show notes.

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If you want to go check it out with sound, Brad, but I'm excited about this second round here with the, with again, two of my BFFs in the comic book podcasting world.

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gentlemen, you guys both had a chance to listen to that episode before coming onto this one.

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we are going to make some smi small minor, you know, changes to the format.

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We'll go over that here in just a moment, but just out of curiosity and sort of for my own.

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I would love to kind of get your thoughts on that first episode.

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there anything that sort of stuck out to you when listening to that and what made you interested on coming on for this episode for the second round?

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Cause you told us to.

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I told you had to be here tonight to do it.

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No, no, no.

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So as someone who, this is my second year playing fantasy, almost said final fantasy, final fantasy football.

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This is my second year playing fantasy football.

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So this episode kind of came, I think that where you dropped it last year.

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And it was the same year I played fantasy football for the first time.

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So I thought it was an interesting amalgam of like this new thing I'm starting to get into with like, you know, this other thing that I've always been into.

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And I was like, I see Chris's vision.

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He's, you know, someone that is like kind of dabbling more in the sports, specifically like football.

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I sometimes I too think about these two worlds and how they're more similar, you know, sports fans and comic fans.

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And I think either side would give things credit for.

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And I've always been curious like why I haven't seen or maybe been more aware of things like this, like a fantasy draft for creators.

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Now, granted, that'd be a lot harder to actually like, you know, track and do in the real world, but I love the episode.

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And I know you told me that both Brad and Sal had, you know, they weren't very familiar with fantasy football and things like that.

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So it was also the nicest and most cordial draft I've ever been afforded.

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To its detriment.

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We'll be that nice here.

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It won't be that nice tonight.

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So yeah, now I thought the episode was, I mean, it makes sense why it's, you know, your most played episode.

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It's a fun game people can play at home.

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And, you know, it's kind of cool to hear certain perspective and insight into like the, the care, the creators that you pick, how they resonate with you.

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And I'm looking at the lineup from last year.

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like, man, Brad had a killer lineup in terms of like thinking outside of the box and things like that.

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So yeah.

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Greg, how about you?

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Yeah.

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I mean, to mirror everything that Bodder said.

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had two fantastic guests on.

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They were too nice for my taste.

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I'd be interested to see if they come back.

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Like if we do this again next year and we're all included, like there's five people doing this draft, how more cutthroat they may be.

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And they mentioned in the episode they've never done any kind of fancy football thing.

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But I feel like nerds, like Bodder said, have the same kind of thinking.

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We've all made our...

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comic book Mount Rushmore, we've all made our dream X-Men Avengers team.

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So we're familiar with the process.

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You want the best of the best for different reasons.

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You need your utility player, you need your star, you need your dependable one.

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And that's what we're gonna be doing here, which is so much fun to think about.

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Because we all here have been doing comic books professionally and unprofessionally for like 20 years.

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So we have major thoughts and opinions and I know that we all think we have the best idea of who we want for a team who would win.

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So it's gonna be fun trashing both of you for your picks.

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Can't wait hear from the audience how good I did in my selections, to be honest.

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He's gonna skew the votes.

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He's the ballots already.

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Chris, you know, and this is such a good idea because, you know, we talked about, you know, how we'd approach this episode and, you know, like I proposed like one change that I thought might, you know, enhance it.

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This is a game that, to what Greg said, you know, could only evolve and get better, you know, as you keep playing it and figure it out.

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Like you probably could figure out a way to do like a fantasy, like comic draft that that might take off.

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But like right now I'm already like, damn, if we did it, like we added this component to it, I think it'd be really fun.

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I'm like, chill, chill, It's a Christmas thing.

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Well, you know, and I like all the ideas, to be honest.

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And I think one of my main goals in this idea and again, Tamir, what you said there earlier about it is that it is sort of a melding of two worlds that I love.

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But I wanted to sort of keep it pretty simple.

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Cause again, we spoke about this sort of off air, but it's interesting to see how many folks sort of dabble both in the sports world and in the fantasy.

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Well, I guess I will say like, you know, the comic world, but I would say more just like, you know, reading in general.

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I think that this would be a fun sort of transition for folks who are maybe just sort of dabble in one or the other.

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This is a, I would say this would be catering to what they are interested in.

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So I want to kind go over the rules here and then butter at the end.

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I want you to sort of add your little.

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your little notch into the legacy of the comic creators fantasy draft here.

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So for everyone, again, if you haven't listened to that first episode, here are the rules.

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Each of us present one creator that we want to nominate and the three of us will discuss that creator simultaneously while bidding in the background.

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So basically as we're speaking about this creator, we will often give our little tidbit and then go, okay, I'll increase the bid by $20 or I'll increase the bid up to $200 or what have you.

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The creator must be working today.

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So.

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No Steve Dickos, no Art Spiegelman's in this auction.

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They gotta be working at least a little bit today, right?

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A small little notch that we've changed since the first one is that we're going to each have 300 invisible dollars.

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So last time we had 500, this time we decided to cut it down to 300 to make us sort of work a little harder for these creators.

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You can start the bidding at any price that you want.

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And then again, as I said, there's that switch up from the last one at 500.

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We will have five minutes to bid on each of these creators.

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I will let everyone know when they're getting near the end.

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basically as we're getting near to the end at about a minute, I'm going to play this noise right here.

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And that'll let everyone know both the listener and us bidding that you have a minute to decide.

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Also, I'll have a clock on our end so that we can all see what's going on.

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And then whenever the bidding is done and everyone has decided who got the creator, I will give my very informal and actual real gavel.

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And that'll end that auction.

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All right.

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And then, like I said, we're gonna have, each of us are gonna bid until we all have six creators on our team.

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And then at the end, we will hold an open discussion on who we think has the best team.

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Now, in this conversation, that end conversation is more of just the listeners, but in reality, at the end, I'm gonna post all of our creative teams on social media.

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Go follow us at Oblivion Bar Pod, and you can sort of give your insight and vote and all the good things.

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So, I'm gonna hand it off to you really quick.

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What was the little notch that you wanted to include in our second annual Comic Courts?

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Comic creator fantasy draft.

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It's too late to do it.

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But I think for the next one, you have everyone send in a name, Yeah.

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And then you use that wheel and whatever the wheel lands on, that's what everyone's bidding Everyone has to bid on.

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you build six, right?

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Yeah.

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I like that.

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That's a good So you're working from a pool and then eventually whoever's left.

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Because I mean, that's kind of what you do with fantasy, right?

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Like everyone knows, you know, it's a pool of players you're picking from there and hoping to get them.

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And it's probability plus luck, is, which would be that would deal with the wheel itself.

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But so what are we doing today though?

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What's what's the wrinkle that you decided to add in for this fantasy draft?

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OK, so man, I feel like I'm now like a Randy ruler over here.

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I've got all these rules I'm trying to come up with coming in here, changing the format.

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Geez.

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So I love that last year's episode.

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And I guess I'm always looking for ways to like.

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Make it little more competitive.

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know, pit friends against each other's break friendships and have people angry.

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You want us to not be friends after that?

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OK, got it.

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OK, I was thinking like we're all we all made our own list.

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We're all going to come and nominate a creator.

00:14:39.918 --> 00:14:41.457
Well, let's raise the stakes.

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And because, know, like if you're coming with a predetermined list, you're probably going to stay close to that list of creators and whatnot.

00:14:48.488 --> 00:14:58.379
So what if of the three creators, it has to be someone that you You can only bid on three of the ones that you nominate yourself.

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The other three has to be, you know, it's gotta be someone that Chris nominated that I have to bid on.

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So your team is equal, ideally your dream team, and then half, you know, creators that everyone else has brought to the table, which I think would be eliminated in the next time you do this with that pool of creators.

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hopefully someone is still like, you know, tracking along.

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I know there's a lot of rules, but let's just do like, So like three creators that you nominated yourself, the other three has to be from everyone else.

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Correct.

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think that makes sense.

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make it sort of...

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Clean that up and post.

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I think you explained it really well and to sort of give a little context, since this creator probably won't be brought up.

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Again, there's no strict rule on us picking a creator that was talked about in last year's episode, but I think we all sort of decided that, you know, we want to bring in some new names because there's a lot of great names in comics, right?

00:15:45.522 --> 00:15:48.844
Like everyone has a favorite and, know, I guess...

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Maybe Daniel Warren Johnson will be brought up again.

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Maybe Brian Gavon will be brought up again.

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on my list personally, I didn't include anybody that was talked about in 2023's episode.

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literally looked at what comic books I've been reading this year and I'm like, who did I like on this team?

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Who did I like on this title?

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And for the most part, they're pretty much different from who you guys had, which I'm telling, which I think last year's episodes set the bar pretty high.

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Cause I mean, you guys got like Daniel Warren Johnson, Chips of Jarski, Bills and Cabbage, you know?

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So I'm coming, I'm coming different this one.

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I just copied Brad's list.

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I'm just going to steal it.

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Greg's coming with a Peach Wmoco nomination immediately.

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Greg's like, why mess with perfection?

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I agree, Greg.

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Why?

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Well, let me ask you guys really quick before we get into this.

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I know I keep deviating here, but I'm curious of those three teams from last year, which are your guys' individual favorites?

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And Greg, I'll start with you.

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I don't know if you have that list in front of you.

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I can give it to you.

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I don't have it in front of me, but I remember that like Brad did have like a lot of left out of left field.

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selections where I'm just like, God damn, okay.

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He was picking his guys.

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You read a lot of the smart books.

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Someone likes Lovin' Rockets.

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Yeah, exactly.

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I did like the nuance of that.

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Chris, you went with the classics.

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You throw out Brian K.

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Vaughan, it's just like, okay, this guy is going for the fucking dunk right now.

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then Sal, he had the most current like, Pop names.

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You know what mean?

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Like, and that's fine.

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Cause you, you need that.

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Like you need Michael Jordan on the Bulls and you need Pippen as well.

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It's just like, get the picks.

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So I can't really pick a favorite.

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If I had to, it would be yours because like, liked the, the mix of it all.

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But if you put those teams in a blender and like what, what would spill out would probably be like pretty Gucci.

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you know what mean.

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Sure.

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But how about you?

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Did you have a preference with any of the three teams?

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And I'll name off the teams here just a moment.

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Yeah.

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So I've got the list pulled up right now and I, I guess I might have to go with Sal's, but not by much.

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Chris, yours is probably, if your team created a comic book, it would be the best looking comic book ever.

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Cause there's like five artists on here.

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Zoe Thurow, good.

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Dan Moore, Alex Ross, Christian Ward, Trad Moore.

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And then you got Brian Kayvon handling the writing duties.

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you know, that'd be an insanely good looking book.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Well, and Bader just named off mine.

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I'm very, I was actually really happy with my team from last year.

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But then you had Brad who had Peach Momoko, Stan Sikai, Matt Lesniewski, Tilly Walden, Junie Baugh, and then Chris Somney.

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And then Sal had Daniel Warren Johnson, Chip Sadarsky, Tom King, Barry Windsor Smith, Nick Darrington, and Bill Sienkiewicz.

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That is a comic heads lineup right there.

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Right.

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Come on.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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Exactly.

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Bill Sienkiewicz part, fucking Barry Windsor Smith.

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I'm like, okay.

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Okay.

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I see where he's coming from.

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I think if I remember correctly, Barry Windsor Smith went for like $12 because Brad and I didn't have any money to spend at the end, or at least I didn't.

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So that's the kind of craziness that can happen.

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But okay, well, let's first, let's decide how we're going to start drafting here.

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Okay.

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So I have our wheel here.

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I have all three of our names.

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I'm going to go ahead and press the first one.

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This will be our third pick.

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So up at number three, have, looks like I am going to be picking third.

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So I'll have, I'll have the turn and then, so I'm going to exclude my name here.

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And then for number two, pick number two will be.

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looking like it's going to be Greg at number two and then bringing up number illusion.

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First overall pick is going to be butter.

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Gentlemen, how do we feel about that?

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I actually like that I have two picks in a row, so I'm mad about that.

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Son of a bitch.

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Yeah, rig rig.

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You know, actually, here's the change for next year.

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How about we not rig it?

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And Chris, how about we just make Chris infinitely powerful in this match?

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How about that home corner advantage?

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Talk about that.

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All right.

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Well.

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Are you ready?

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You want to nominate our very first creator?

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my god.

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Okay.

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Yes.

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As soon as you name it, I'm going to start the clock.

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Okay.

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Good Lord.

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I like the pressures on.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Let's do it.

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on.

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All right.

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Give your give your nomination and how much you bid.

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my god.

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And I got a bit.

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Okay.

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Let's do it.

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Okay.

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My first nomination goes to someone who is having a stellar stellar year.

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And I feel like it's kind of putting him back on the map.

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Not that he needed to be put on the map, because he's already on the map.

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But without any further ado, I nominate Wes Craig as my first creator.

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a fantastic year with Absolute.

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He's doing his own creator thing with Kaia.

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mean, not on top of everything else he's done in the past.

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So that is who I'm nominating.

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I'm going to start the bid.

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I'm going go a nice 50 on this one.

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A 50.

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Who's on the $50 bill?

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cannot recall.

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Is that Andrew Jackson?

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can't remember.

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That's a 20.

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I don't know.

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I don't have that much.

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Is that OK?

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Yeah, I'm for a 50 clean 54 for West.

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Was correct.

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All right.

00:20:49.269 --> 00:20:51.329
So, Greg, what are your thoughts here?

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Wes Craig, obviously, I think we're all big fans of his, of course.

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You want to see his grant, by the way, is Ulysses Grant.

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Of course.

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Yeah, yeah, sure.

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The most racist dollar bill.

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Co-creator of Deadly Class, Gravediggers Union, Kaia most recently.

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really love that Wes Craig recently, he opened up an Instagram account where he was posting a panel of Kaia every single day.

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I don't know if he's still doing that, but I thought it was a cool idea.

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But Greg, I took it over there.

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What are your thoughts?

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I think that's a great first pick.

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You know, it's interesting.

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It's outside the box, but, bottle, you're right.

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I mean, the year that they're having, I think it's just like one of those things where you would have bought his stock so low about five years ago.

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And now you're just seeing it go up and up and up and you're just about to cash in all these West Craig bucks and make a killing.

00:21:36.867 --> 00:21:38.781
So I think that's an amazing pick.

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50 bucks is super cheap.

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I don't know if I'm going to bite for 50.

00:21:41.651 --> 00:21:46.383
I have some tempting names on my list that I want to squirrel away.

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So I mean, that's an amazing pick though for West Craig.

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Thank Thank you, Sarah.

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You know, I was like, you know what, let's start off strong.

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mean, a comic book ain't nothing without the visuals.

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So I'm going for one of the hottest artists out there.

00:21:57.113 --> 00:21:57.673
Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You know, Wes is one of those guys that is also part of the Felix comic art team.

00:22:02.085 --> 00:22:10.128
And I feel like Felix's team is just a, just a roster of your comic book, your favorite comic creators, favorite comic artist, right?

00:22:10.128 --> 00:22:13.769
Like think of whoever and they're going to be like, I really love Stanford green.

00:22:13.769 --> 00:22:14.881
I really love trad more.

00:22:14.881 --> 00:22:17.352
I really love Ryan Otley, Ryan Stegman, whomever.

00:22:17.352 --> 00:22:18.501
So Daniel Warren Johnson.

00:22:18.501 --> 00:22:35.096
So Wes Craig fills out that, that roster really well, obviously as we've said, many times, Kaia and to hear him talk about this book, I'm trying remember where I heard him talk about this might have been comic book couples counseling could have been comics collective or actually no, it actually might have been off panel with David Harper.

00:22:35.096 --> 00:22:45.362
You know, Wes was talking about how this is the book that he always wanted to tell and that regardless of whether this book was popular and I think it is, I think it's extremely popular among fans.

00:22:45.403 --> 00:22:49.184
He was going to figure out a way to tell the story in its completion.

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So I really respect that.

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think he's at the point now, especially after doing deadly class with a recommender that like he deserves to tell his story in a similar way.

00:22:57.369 --> 00:23:00.430
Again, like Stanford Green that he did with.

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Fuck, what was the Stanford Green book?

00:23:04.029 --> 00:23:05.549
Help me out, guys.

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I do.

00:23:06.130 --> 00:23:06.609
No, no, no.

00:23:06.609 --> 00:23:09.509
The longtime book that he did that he won a ton of awards for.

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He was the artist for.

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Dang it.

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Why am I spacing it now?

00:23:12.829 --> 00:23:13.569
I sound like an idiot.

00:23:13.569 --> 00:23:19.534
But the point being is that these artists that were on these long running career on titles eventually when they get off.

00:23:19.534 --> 00:23:20.594
They want to tell their own stories.

00:23:20.594 --> 00:23:23.923
So deadly class was, was actually West Craig.

00:23:23.923 --> 00:23:28.134
I'm talking about Stanford green, but, also root, there it is.

00:23:28.134 --> 00:23:28.544
Yes.

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Thank you.

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Gosh.

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Okay.

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So for the sake of auction, I'll do 60, I'll do 60 for West Craig.

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think that he would fit in nicely on a roster for me.

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Damn it.

00:23:37.144 --> 00:23:37.953
Really?

00:23:37.953 --> 00:23:40.493
Chris, you could have just let that one ride.

00:23:40.493 --> 00:23:41.193
No.

00:23:41.193 --> 00:23:41.693
Okay.

00:23:41.693 --> 00:23:43.733
I talked about it for two minutes.

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Okay.

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I a bit on him.

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You know what?

00:23:46.394 --> 00:23:47.885
You can have West Craig.

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West Craig at $60.

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We have one minute.

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One minute left.

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Anybody want to take me at $60 for West Craig?

00:23:57.066 --> 00:23:58.185
Going once.

00:23:58.185 --> 00:24:00.246
Going twice for West Craig.

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go quick.

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West Craig for $60.

00:24:04.665 --> 00:24:05.746
$60?

00:24:06.185 --> 00:24:06.405
Nope.

00:24:06.405 --> 00:24:06.895
All right.

00:24:06.895 --> 00:24:07.445
No, sir.

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No.

00:24:07.885 --> 00:24:14.903
I mean, as much as I would like to add West Craig to the roster, I mean, and me being the first one to have the opening shot.

00:24:14.958 --> 00:24:20.498
I gotta hold off, because it just speaks to the killer lineup of God ready in the back pocket.

00:24:20.597 --> 00:24:23.377
Like Batman, I prepared for this.

00:24:24.057 --> 00:24:24.678
boy.

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Can also say, Wes Craig's current absolute issue is almost akin to, you brought up Sanford Green, and I forgot that they're on the same, like in the same art house, or represented by the same art company.

00:24:38.018 --> 00:24:40.478
And they have very similar sensibilities, you know?

00:24:40.478 --> 00:24:43.493
Like in terms of like style, I think there's a lot of...

00:24:43.654 --> 00:24:46.375
fluidity and there are work a lot of energy.

00:24:46.596 --> 00:24:54.762
But I was reading that absolute special and I could not help compare it, especially the second half where Wes Craig is doing the dark side story.

00:24:55.044 --> 00:25:05.491
I could not help but compare it to Sanford Green's doom book where you got to see Sanford Green draw basically every character in the Marvel universe that you would want to see.

00:25:05.491 --> 00:25:15.440
Sanford Green had almost, not Sanford Green, I'm sorry, Wes Craig had the same opportunity with this all in special where he got to draw pretty much all of the Justice League that you'd want to see.

00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:21.153
So I thought, you know, that comparison, and especially both books came out the same year, they're both having a great year is what I'm saying.

00:25:21.153 --> 00:25:22.984
Both of those books are metal as hell, right?

00:25:22.984 --> 00:25:29.941
And you're so right to compare your normal Doom book, which is often being drawn by a house style generally.

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And there's nothing against the house style.

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We all like the house style.

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And actually one of the creators that I really love in the comic world is Daniel Sanpere, who draws the other half of that all in special is incredible.

00:25:39.874 --> 00:25:59.069
But to see the contrast with Wes Craig in that book is a perfect sort of illumination of the different voices within the comic medium and how special it is to not only have your typical Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, because Daniel Samper does draw Wonder Woman currently with Tom King to see that difference with Wes Craig, who again is again one of the more unique voices.

00:25:59.310 --> 00:25:59.931
It's incredible.

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So I will happily take Wes Craig.

00:26:01.903 --> 00:26:02.794
We'll add him to the roster.

00:26:02.794 --> 00:26:06.557
We're to go and throw the gavel down and we will add him to the list.

00:26:06.557 --> 00:26:07.809
So, Greg, do you want to?

00:26:07.809 --> 00:26:10.832
take us with our second pick here in the draft?

00:26:10.832 --> 00:26:11.231
Yeah.

00:26:11.231 --> 00:26:23.580
So a funny thing has started to happen in fantasy football where QBs didn't used to go in the first round, but now they are because it's like the playmakers are the quarterbacks for this generation.

00:26:23.580 --> 00:26:27.141
So in that spirit, I'm going to throw out my superstar.

00:26:27.141 --> 00:26:33.728
I'm going to throw out the one that I am hoping to get the most because let me just name off some of the books she's done.

00:26:33.728 --> 00:26:37.357
Captain Marvel, Birds of Prey, Black Widow.

00:26:37.357 --> 00:26:38.298
Scarlett.

00:26:38.298 --> 00:26:39.178
I know we're going.

00:26:39.178 --> 00:26:40.317
Black Cloak.

00:26:40.317 --> 00:26:41.417
Absolute Wonder Woman.

00:26:41.417 --> 00:26:43.817
I'm talking, of course, of Kelly Thompson.

00:26:43.817 --> 00:26:44.518
There you are.

00:26:44.518 --> 00:26:45.167
All right.

00:26:45.167 --> 00:26:46.897
Where are you the bidding at?

00:26:46.897 --> 00:26:48.018
$75.

00:26:48.018 --> 00:26:49.428
$75 for Kelly.

00:26:49.428 --> 00:26:49.968
All right.

00:26:49.968 --> 00:26:50.738
I like it.

00:26:50.738 --> 00:26:51.438
I like it.

00:26:51.438 --> 00:26:57.357
There is in my mind no one right now who is more of a sure thing than Kelly Thompson.

00:26:57.357 --> 00:27:03.097
Like, doesn't matter if it's humor, serious, horror, fantasy.

00:27:03.097 --> 00:27:07.509
Like, she throws down the gauntlet every time.

00:27:07.509 --> 00:27:12.193
And I just have a smile on my face with every story that she's written.

00:27:12.193 --> 00:27:18.359
And I know that she has given a ton of thought and passion into the stories that she's writing.

00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:20.111
these are long-term stories.

00:27:20.111 --> 00:27:24.125
She's not going in for two or three issues and just like, okay, we're done here.

00:27:24.125 --> 00:27:31.351
Like she has set out a plan and really wants the reader to enjoy themselves.

00:27:31.351 --> 00:27:35.021
Like you can tell some writers that they're just writing a story that perhaps...

00:27:35.021 --> 00:27:38.061
they want to write or that they want to see.

00:27:38.061 --> 00:27:41.622
And Kelly Thompson is just like, no, this one's for the fans.

00:27:41.622 --> 00:27:45.481
And it's been every book she's written has been for the fans.

00:27:45.481 --> 00:27:46.761
So that's where I'm going at.

00:27:46.761 --> 00:27:48.561
Kelly Thompson, $75.

00:27:48.701 --> 00:27:49.602
I like it.

00:27:49.602 --> 00:27:50.162
like it.

00:27:50.162 --> 00:27:51.102
75 is rich.

00:27:51.102 --> 00:27:53.721
If I didn't get West Craig, would fight you for that.

00:27:53.721 --> 00:27:55.112
She's on my list as well.

00:27:55.112 --> 00:28:03.680
Kelly was, she led this last year's Eisners with five nominations, which she ended up winning one, I think for best humor publication for it's Jeff.

00:28:03.950 --> 00:28:06.501
So, and I think she honestly could have easily won best writer.

00:28:06.501 --> 00:28:08.554
I think it went to Mariko Tamaki.

00:28:08.554 --> 00:28:10.445
But point being is that you're absolutely right.

00:28:10.445 --> 00:28:11.455
And that bird's a prey book.

00:28:11.455 --> 00:28:15.519
I cannot yell from the mountaintops how awesome that fucking book is.

00:28:15.779 --> 00:28:16.589
It's just so good.

00:28:16.589 --> 00:28:19.741
Hey, and shout out to issue two, the oblivion bars in that issue.

00:28:19.741 --> 00:28:22.585
So shameless plug there.

00:28:22.585 --> 00:28:30.951
unfortunately, based on my roster and everything that I have, again, bidding on Wes Craig, which I'm still happy about, I cannot compete for Kelly Thompson.

00:28:30.951 --> 00:28:33.294
So, Bodder, I'm going to hand it off to you here.

00:28:33.294 --> 00:28:36.233
Got about three minutes left here on this Kelly Thompson round.

00:28:36.233 --> 00:28:36.973
What are your thoughts?

00:28:36.973 --> 00:28:38.094
$75?

00:28:38.394 --> 00:28:39.824
No, Greg can have that.

00:28:39.824 --> 00:28:40.564
I got a plan.

00:28:40.564 --> 00:28:41.693
I'm sticking to it.

00:28:41.693 --> 00:28:46.314
OK, I off with Patrick Mahomes of comic book creators right now.

00:28:46.314 --> 00:28:50.253
think when you hear some of the ones I got, maybe no disrespect to Kelly Thompson.

00:28:50.253 --> 00:28:54.894
Kelly Thompson is a great pick, Greg, for all the reasons you said.

00:28:55.233 --> 00:28:57.153
Consistency, fan base.

00:28:57.153 --> 00:28:58.231
She's, know.

00:28:58.231 --> 00:28:59.792
She just makes quality comic books.

00:28:59.792 --> 00:29:03.703
Sometimes you want someone that's a sure thing and I think she's the definition of a sure thing.

00:29:03.703 --> 00:29:10.987
I read Absolute Wonder Woman for the first time a couple days ago and I still have to read Absolute Superman.

00:29:11.126 --> 00:29:19.881
But right now Absolute Wonder Woman might be, I got edging out Absolute Batman just by a smidge.

00:29:19.881 --> 00:29:21.832
Just by a smidge.

00:29:21.832 --> 00:29:23.061
I'm in the same boat as you.

00:29:23.061 --> 00:29:24.393
Get in, the water's warm.

00:29:24.393 --> 00:29:25.073
You know what it is?

00:29:25.073 --> 00:29:34.451
It's because I was not expecting I think this is the most interesting one in terms of like I'm not the biggest, I don't know a lot about Wonder Woman.

00:29:34.451 --> 00:29:36.633
I went in there with it very fresh.

00:29:36.633 --> 00:29:38.223
You there's only so much of Batman.

00:29:38.223 --> 00:29:49.163
know, it's like the, Snyder to the inverted of Batman, which isn't that, I guess like it didn't catch me by complete surprise, but going into Wonder Woman, I'm like, okay, how are they going to make her different?

00:29:49.163 --> 00:29:52.006
And having her raised in hell, I mean, come on.

00:29:52.006 --> 00:29:54.028
The best way to love a child is to raise a child?

00:29:54.028 --> 00:29:54.808
Come on.

00:29:54.808 --> 00:29:56.589
That's the way to show the love.

00:29:56.589 --> 00:29:58.109
is to give the child away.

00:29:58.109 --> 00:30:00.130
mean, you know, it was filled with like great quotes.

00:30:00.130 --> 00:30:01.000
I like it.

00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:02.269
Yeah, absolutely.

00:30:02.269 --> 00:30:03.950
But Greg can have Kelly Thompson for 75.

00:30:03.950 --> 00:30:05.789
That's too rich for me, blood.

00:30:05.890 --> 00:30:08.269
Going once, going twice, going three times.

00:30:08.269 --> 00:30:10.809
We Kelly Thompson for $75.

00:30:10.809 --> 00:30:11.410
All right.

00:30:11.410 --> 00:30:13.849
And she again, as I said a moment ago, she was on my list.

00:30:13.849 --> 00:30:15.829
So a great, great pick there, Greg.

00:30:15.829 --> 00:30:16.250
All right.

00:30:16.250 --> 00:30:21.069
I'm going to bring up the rear both with the last pick in the first round and then the first pick in the second round.

00:30:21.069 --> 00:30:29.803
Up first, we are going heavy into I think one of if not the most business savvy creators in the industry.

00:30:29.942 --> 00:30:33.983
think you get gentlemen will know who exactly I'm talking about as soon as I start talking about what they've done.

00:30:33.983 --> 00:30:35.244
Can I take a guess?

00:30:35.244 --> 00:30:35.565
Sure.

00:30:35.565 --> 00:30:36.565
Go ahead and go with the guess.

00:30:36.565 --> 00:30:37.615
If you got it right, I'll start.

00:30:37.615 --> 00:30:38.255
I'll start the clock.

00:30:38.255 --> 00:30:39.546
Is it tiny onion?

00:30:39.546 --> 00:30:41.965
That's a good guess, but no, it's not tiny.

00:30:41.965 --> 00:30:46.082
Let me I will say it is probably Scott Snyder.

00:30:46.082 --> 00:30:47.387
You got the first part right.

00:30:47.387 --> 00:30:52.239
It is Scotty Young and I'm starting Scotty Young at sixty dollars.

00:30:52.239 --> 00:30:54.869
Sixty dollars for Scotty Young writer, artist.

00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:57.471
One of the just again, one of the most business savvy.

00:30:57.471 --> 00:31:03.474
If you guys ever been to the his website, which I'm spacing right now is stupid.

00:31:03.474 --> 00:31:05.145
Is it like stupid, crazy mess or something like that?

00:31:05.145 --> 00:31:06.096
Something like that.

00:31:06.096 --> 00:31:08.817
He has created an empire with all of his work.

00:31:08.817 --> 00:31:09.568
Stupid fresh mess.

00:31:09.568 --> 00:31:10.479
Excuse me.

00:31:10.479 --> 00:31:11.569
It's just incredible.

00:31:11.569 --> 00:31:17.083
All the stuff that he's able to do, not only with his variants, but some of his own creator own work with Middle West and I hate fairyland.

00:31:17.083 --> 00:31:19.423
And he has these unoriginal art prints.

00:31:19.423 --> 00:31:22.865
Talk about an incredible idea where you can put up.

00:31:23.006 --> 00:31:29.571
a what looks like an actual page of like a moon night cover and it ends up just being a print that you can buy for 20 bucks.

00:31:29.571 --> 00:31:30.571
How incredible is that?

00:31:30.571 --> 00:31:31.752
It's so cool.

00:31:31.752 --> 00:31:34.895
So 60 dollars for Scottie Young is what I'm going to start with.

00:31:34.895 --> 00:31:36.467
Do either one of you gentlemen want to fight me?

00:31:36.467 --> 00:31:38.628
I don't think I really even need to say much about Scottie Young.

00:31:38.628 --> 00:31:44.163
I think we all are familiar with how incredible Scottie is not only as an artist, but also as a writer and so on.

00:31:44.163 --> 00:31:47.105
So Scottie Young, any fight for 60 dollars?

00:31:47.105 --> 00:31:50.368
Well, he is a Kansas City staple.

00:31:50.368 --> 00:31:51.130
I'll say that.

00:31:51.130 --> 00:31:51.981
So.

00:31:51.981 --> 00:31:56.634
Scotty Young has been on my radar from, I think, pretty much the beginning.

00:31:56.634 --> 00:31:58.402
He's been at Planet Comic Con every year.

00:31:58.402 --> 00:32:02.807
He is just the nicest dude to talk to ever.

00:32:02.807 --> 00:32:04.449
He's super chill.

00:32:05.348 --> 00:32:12.053
He struck gold with his, like, chibi versions of comic book characters.

00:32:12.532 --> 00:32:16.115
He makes a million covers a week.

00:32:16.115 --> 00:32:21.422
like you said, like, Bully Wars, I Hate Fairyland, Middle West, like...

00:32:21.422 --> 00:32:24.642
The man knows how to Strange Academy.

00:32:24.642 --> 00:32:27.031
man knows how to write his stories as well.

00:32:27.031 --> 00:32:33.342
so it's like this double threat thing that's going on that is a great utility player for a team.

00:32:33.342 --> 00:32:37.271
that's like a fantastic, fantastic pick.

00:32:37.271 --> 00:32:45.481
And it hurts me to maybe walk away from a KC boy only because I have a utility player on my list that I also want.

00:32:46.662 --> 00:32:48.422
in the...

00:32:48.653 --> 00:32:49.374
What was it at?

00:32:49.374 --> 00:32:50.173
What do you have it at?

00:32:50.173 --> 00:32:52.824
$60 is the current current bid for Scottie Young.

00:32:52.824 --> 00:32:55.074
If you guys let me take Scottie Young for 60 bucks.

00:32:55.074 --> 00:32:56.574
I'll do 65.

00:32:56.574 --> 00:32:57.354
65 dollars.

00:32:57.354 --> 00:32:58.153
I'll do 65.

00:32:58.153 --> 00:33:01.034
What are your thoughts on on Hometown Alliance alone?

00:33:01.034 --> 00:33:01.864
Yeah, of course.

00:33:01.864 --> 00:33:04.094
You got to at do one for the Casey guy.

00:33:04.354 --> 00:33:11.173
I mean, I've been playing conservative these first two rounds and a pardon me wants to continue playing conservative because it's only the first round.

00:33:11.173 --> 00:33:12.453
But you know, we are that fun.

00:33:12.453 --> 00:33:13.034
We're friends.

00:33:13.034 --> 00:33:14.513
We're here to have fun.

00:33:14.594 --> 00:33:16.193
Not for long.

00:33:16.413 --> 00:33:17.513
Yeah.

00:33:17.902 --> 00:33:25.442
$300 is gonna go very fast, even though it's imaginary, but for the sake of fun, I'm gonna go 75.

00:33:25.442 --> 00:33:27.481
I'm gonna go in a bid for 75.

00:33:27.481 --> 00:33:34.602
mean, like you guys make a, you know the problem with it being five minutes is that you think in the beginning, you're like, okay, I'm gonna let that one slide.

00:33:34.602 --> 00:33:38.801
But then enough time goes by and you're like, well, they're all making very good cases.

00:33:38.801 --> 00:33:42.541
Maybe I do need, you know, a writer artist combo.

00:33:42.541 --> 00:33:43.862
I'm looking at his website.

00:33:43.862 --> 00:33:45.261
I'm like, website is...

00:33:45.261 --> 00:33:45.771
pretty well.

00:33:45.771 --> 00:33:47.842
He's like got a lot of things figured out.

00:33:47.842 --> 00:33:49.071
I want that on my team.

00:33:49.071 --> 00:33:50.662
So yeah, I'm gonna go 75.

00:33:50.942 --> 00:33:51.531
75.

00:33:51.531 --> 00:34:06.882
All I'm going to go 80 because I, again, I think that he is just one of the most, we spoke on tiny onion a moment ago, but I truly believe that what Scott Young has created here with stupid fresh mess might be at the top of the mountain when it comes to creating an empire within comics.

00:34:06.882 --> 00:34:11.271
Now, of course, I don't think there's a ton of Scottie young stuff being created into movies and television.

00:34:11.271 --> 00:34:12.597
At least not that I know of.

00:34:12.597 --> 00:34:16.420
like tiny onions doing over with something is killing the children and all the other stuff that he's doing.

00:34:16.420 --> 00:34:26.289
But regardless, if you just talk about what people will shell out for original Scottie Young stuff and his just as covers in general, he would be a pillar on my team.

00:34:26.289 --> 00:34:29.952
So I'm very I'm confident at eighty dollars for for Scottie Young.

00:34:29.952 --> 00:34:31.152
I got to walk on my.

00:34:31.152 --> 00:34:32.494
Yeah, I might like to have that.

00:34:32.494 --> 00:34:37.336
And I think this is where our differences and how we're approaching this with what mentality.

00:34:37.336 --> 00:34:37.592
Right.

00:34:37.592 --> 00:34:44.338
I'm going to this mentality in this game of like building out the best team that would put the best comic book together.

00:34:44.338 --> 00:34:46.150
So I think I've got it like, need a writer.

00:34:46.150 --> 00:34:48.842
need one minute down.

00:34:48.842 --> 00:34:50.684
So I think, yeah.

00:34:50.684 --> 00:34:54.907
So I think for that case and for 80 bucks, I'm gonna take a step back.

00:34:55.027 --> 00:34:56.539
threw my, you know, I threw a little hat in the ring.

00:34:56.539 --> 00:34:57.650
I threw my change in there.

00:34:57.650 --> 00:34:58.440
Yeah, I like it.

00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:01.923
Honestly, I didn't really want to go 80 for Scotty, but it's worth it.

00:35:01.923 --> 00:35:04.695
Honestly, I feel really good about that.

00:35:04.695 --> 00:35:06.181
However, I have another pick here.

00:35:06.181 --> 00:35:07.757
Let me go ahead and gavel.

00:35:08.179 --> 00:35:12.302
I've got Scotty Young and Wes Craig over on my team.

00:35:12.302 --> 00:35:24.711
Which let's be real, if we ever seen a solicitation for whatever book, a Marvel DC image, a fucking boom, Dark Horse that said Scottie Young in the writer slot and Wes Craig in the artist slot, we'd be losing our mind.

00:35:24.711 --> 00:35:27.601
Wes Craig in the writer slot and Scottie Young in the artist slot.

00:35:27.601 --> 00:35:28.360
Losing my paycheck.

00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:29.422
good point.

00:35:30.601 --> 00:35:34.461
Yeah, it'd be variant city galore.

00:35:34.782 --> 00:35:35.211
All right.

00:35:35.211 --> 00:35:36.902
I'm going to go.

00:35:36.902 --> 00:35:41.766
I'm going to zig here when I think you guys think I'm going to zag for my first pick in the second round.

00:35:41.902 --> 00:35:44.322
I'm going to go for a specialist slot.

00:35:44.322 --> 00:35:46.222
You know, we've got I've got two utility players.

00:35:46.222 --> 00:35:50.342
I'm going to go with one of the best colorers in the game.

00:35:50.342 --> 00:35:57.402
Now, in the first fantasy, our first fans, have no colorists were taken, at least not in their in their normal slot.

00:35:57.402 --> 00:35:58.561
Say it.

00:35:58.561 --> 00:36:02.072
I'm going to start the bidding for Jordi Belair.

00:36:02.072 --> 00:36:04.802
I knew that was 30 dollars.

00:36:04.802 --> 00:36:06.411
Thirty dollars for Jordi Belair.

00:36:06.411 --> 00:36:07.742
don't even need to ask anyone.

00:36:07.742 --> 00:36:08.664
Fifty dollars.

00:36:08.664 --> 00:36:13.505
raise fifty dollars for Jordi Belair because I was thinking I was like that was the difference.

00:36:13.505 --> 00:36:14.806
And that's what I'm saying, Chris.

00:36:14.806 --> 00:36:17.467
You've got my mind racing like, they got to do this.

00:36:17.467 --> 00:36:23.280
Is that I think for the next one, build out the team and cars has to be on his.

00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:23.809
I know.

00:36:23.809 --> 00:36:24.260
know.

00:36:24.260 --> 00:36:31.572
This is the project manager and me that and also the big brother that had to come up with all the games for us to play as kids.

00:36:31.572 --> 00:36:34.112
So I had Jordi Belair.

00:36:34.112 --> 00:36:39.425
And I kind of broke down my dream list in terms of like writer, artist, colorist, letterer.

00:36:39.425 --> 00:36:42.188
And I even had editor, but I might have to change tactics.

00:36:42.188 --> 00:36:44.068
But Jordi Belair was at the top of the list.

00:36:44.068 --> 00:36:49.472
And I forgot what I was reading this week where she was doing the colors.

00:36:49.472 --> 00:36:57.657
But she's what I call sneaky famous in comic space because that role is gaining more prominence.

00:36:57.657 --> 00:37:06.155
know, their names are on the cover of books now, but it's still one of those things where you don't realize I don't think that colorist is like a household name just yet.

00:37:06.155 --> 00:37:07.556
It's getting there, but not just yet.

00:37:07.556 --> 00:37:12.382
But if there was any household name in the world of colorist, Jordy Belair would be it.

00:37:12.382 --> 00:37:29.014
Cause I guarantee you right now, if any of you guys or anyone listening was to look at their stack of comic books right now, I put the 50 bucks that is waged and real money that Jordy Belair has colored one of those books, at least one of those books in your to read pile.

00:37:29.014 --> 00:37:29.786
I guarantee it.

00:37:29.786 --> 00:37:32.331
I think now that I recall it, she...

00:37:32.331 --> 00:37:46.461
just drew an issue, the current issue of Amazing Spider-Man with Ed McGinnis, which, you you flip through it, you're like, first of all, it's Ed McGinnis, so the art is beautiful, but the colors, the lighting, the tone, all Jordy Belair, baby, worth 50 bucks easy.

00:37:46.461 --> 00:37:48.025
50 bucks for Jordy Belair.

00:37:48.025 --> 00:37:49.777
Greg, what are your thoughts?

00:37:49.777 --> 00:37:52.809
I concur, like, they're up for an Eisner, I think, every year.

00:37:52.809 --> 00:37:55.141
They just won it last year.

00:37:55.282 --> 00:37:59.684
It's just like, every year, it's like, they're always on that list.

00:38:00.130 --> 00:38:01.059
That's a great pick.

00:38:01.059 --> 00:38:02.371
It's like throwing out Dave Stewart.

00:38:02.371 --> 00:38:06.672
mean, Mike Mignola and Dave Stewart are just locked together.

00:38:06.672 --> 00:38:09.313
Mike Spicer, think, is in the same ilk.

00:38:09.313 --> 00:38:15.594
Like, people don't realize that there is more to a comic book than a writer and an artist.

00:38:15.594 --> 00:38:19.715
A letterer, is a colorist, is designers.

00:38:19.715 --> 00:38:23.936
Like, all of this is melted together to make a great comic book.

00:38:23.936 --> 00:38:29.498
So, you you throw me for a curveball here by including Geordie.

00:38:32.172 --> 00:38:35.565
You know, speaking of that Birds of Prey book, you could have Kelly Thompson and Jordy Belair.

00:38:35.565 --> 00:38:39.257
They're two, I would say two of the best parts of that book on your team.

00:38:39.257 --> 00:38:47.744
Or you were think of comic books, and I tried it too, in terms of like filmmaking, because I think it's an easier one for one.

00:38:47.784 --> 00:38:51.108
Jordy, know, the lighting is so, it can make or break a film.

00:38:51.108 --> 00:38:54.039
know, think of, mean, for some reason, drive comes to mind.

00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:58.561
You know, I think a lot of people remember some of the iconic lines and some of the general premise.

00:38:58.561 --> 00:39:01.885
but everyone remembers like the lights in it, the lighting.

00:39:01.885 --> 00:39:04.367
What was the other Ryan Gosling movie he did right after that?

00:39:04.367 --> 00:39:07.769
Only God Forgives, I think, know, moody lighting.

00:39:07.769 --> 00:39:11.693
And I think that's how you have to look at a colorist in comic books.

00:39:11.693 --> 00:39:19.141
They set the tone, the mood, you know, which can also play into the setting, how a certain panel or page feels.

00:39:19.141 --> 00:39:24.905
Yeah, they don't get enough credit, but the really good ones, Jordy Belair, Tim Townsend.

00:39:25.038 --> 00:39:27.538
Greg, who did you say Dave Stewart?

00:39:27.538 --> 00:39:29.697
know, masters of the craft.

00:39:30.657 --> 00:39:44.737
Real quick, sometimes you realize, at least I realize, it's not the art per se, a pencil work that I like so much as much as like the coloring, know, and then Jordy Belair is, you know, you could like a book just because Jordy Belair is only color.

00:39:44.737 --> 00:39:45.177
Yeah.

00:39:45.177 --> 00:39:49.898
To make a sports reference here, colorists and inkers are kind of like kickers in football.

00:39:49.898 --> 00:39:51.338
Like you don't recognize them.

00:39:51.338 --> 00:39:54.155
You don't know how valuable they are until you have a bad one.

00:39:54.155 --> 00:39:56.789
You know, yeah, right.

00:39:56.789 --> 00:39:59.400
Speaking as a speaking or having a really good one.

00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:03.806
Speaking as a Ravens fan, Justin Tucker killed us today and he's one of the greatest cookers of all time.

00:40:03.806 --> 00:40:05.347
Again, to make a football reference.

00:40:05.347 --> 00:40:10.773
But the only six points that Jags scored today was because of our guy, little kick.

00:40:10.773 --> 00:40:11.954
It was field goes for us.

00:40:11.954 --> 00:40:12.233
All right.

00:40:12.233 --> 00:40:13.985
All right.

00:40:13.985 --> 00:40:17.902
We've got about 30 seconds here bidding at $50 here for Jordy Belair.

00:40:17.902 --> 00:40:18.822
Bauder currently a second.

00:40:18.822 --> 00:40:23.061
Greg, I'm going to back out here because I've got 160 on my bank account.

00:40:23.061 --> 00:40:24.282
I'm out as well.

00:40:24.282 --> 00:40:24.922
Backing out.

00:40:24.922 --> 00:40:31.501
Well, 50 dollars going once, going twice here for Jordy Ballard, going three times and we have a winner here.

00:40:32.161 --> 00:40:33.311
50 dollars.

00:40:33.311 --> 00:40:35.561
I could have went a little lower, but you know, fuck it.

00:40:35.561 --> 00:40:36.282
50 bucks.

00:40:36.282 --> 00:40:36.661
All right.

00:40:36.661 --> 00:40:38.161
Another roll thoroughly broke.

00:40:38.161 --> 00:40:38.972
That's all right.

00:40:38.972 --> 00:40:41.092
That problem and rewind it back.

00:40:41.092 --> 00:40:41.362
All right.

00:40:41.362 --> 00:40:43.262
Well, Greg, you're up next here.

00:40:43.262 --> 00:40:45.518
We I'm going to go ahead and set the clock here.

00:40:45.518 --> 00:40:52.978
All right, so just for a quick update, everybody, I have Wes Craig at $60 and Scottie Young at $80, leaving me at 160.

00:40:52.978 --> 00:40:58.277
Greg currently has Kelly Thompson for $75 and Botter just took Jordy Belair for 50.

00:40:58.277 --> 00:40:59.867
Now we're on to Greg here.

00:40:59.867 --> 00:41:01.577
Greg, who is your second round pick?

00:41:01.577 --> 00:41:09.327
I'm going to go with my utility player here who can do art duty and writing duty and has and sometimes in the same book.

00:41:09.327 --> 00:41:14.590
I'm going to start the bidding low so we can have a little back and forth, but I want to go with Kyle Starks.

00:41:15.286 --> 00:41:20.789
We're Monsters Fly, Peacemaker, Sex Castle, Rock Candy Mountain.

00:41:21.090 --> 00:41:24.353
I've talked to Kyle a few times on the show.

00:41:25.134 --> 00:41:26.844
He loves comic books.

00:41:26.844 --> 00:41:31.898
He loves making comic books and that really shines through in his work.

00:41:31.898 --> 00:41:33.579
mean, it's...

00:41:34.021 --> 00:41:38.213
There is not a genre that he is not willing to dive into.

00:41:38.213 --> 00:42:07.382
He's just a fantastic creator of comic I will see your 25 and rate.

00:42:07.382 --> 00:42:08.362
What's the increments?

00:42:08.362 --> 00:42:10.382
Isn't there normally like a minimum?

00:42:10.382 --> 00:42:12.512
We'll just do five, five per.

00:42:12.512 --> 00:42:15.902
So if you want to do if you want to see 30, I'll see your 25.

00:42:15.902 --> 00:42:17.702
I'll raise you 30.

00:42:17.702 --> 00:42:18.382
All right.

00:42:18.382 --> 00:42:22.632
Well, I'll just go ahead and go 40 because it's just like the dude.

00:42:22.632 --> 00:42:27.081
The dude doesn't miss like Lobo cancellation special that just came out recently.

00:42:27.081 --> 00:42:30.342
I had no business being as good as it did.

00:42:30.342 --> 00:42:34.945
He also, man, he knows how to write comedy.

00:42:34.945 --> 00:42:58.438
And I think if you know how to write comedy, especially in comic books, I mean, they say that about, you know, to go back to the movie reference, like when a comedic actor can nail like comedy, it's so easy for them to do drama or any other type of roles because, know, comedy is just kind of hard to portray, you know, as far as timing and, you know, sensibilities and all this and stuff.

00:42:58.438 --> 00:43:03.041
And I feel like Kyle Starks has mastered the art of fun and comedy.

00:43:03.041 --> 00:43:09.567
but also will hit you over the head with like, will hit you in the gut with feelings and a really well thought out story.

00:43:09.567 --> 00:43:13.248
So with those reasons, I raise you 45.

00:43:13.248 --> 00:43:14.250
I go 45.

00:43:14.250 --> 00:43:15.672
Because he was on my list too.

00:43:15.672 --> 00:43:16.492
for Kyle Starks.

00:43:16.492 --> 00:43:18.773
It's just like, it's the dialogue.

00:43:18.773 --> 00:43:23.856
He knows how to write a conversation between two people or multiple people.

00:43:23.856 --> 00:43:25.318
I think it's like the, what is it?

00:43:25.318 --> 00:43:28.440
Like the seven sidekicks of Trigger Keaton.

00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:31.373
Trigger Keaton, like that was such a...

00:43:31.373 --> 00:43:34.653
That's exactly what I'm thinking of and such a fun premise, too.

00:43:34.653 --> 00:43:38.253
Yeah, like 12 people you had to like get into the mood to to write.

00:43:38.253 --> 00:43:46.534
Two my favorite books of the last couple of years were Peacemaker Tries Hard and the Minor Threats Barfly book that he and Ryan Brown did.

00:43:46.813 --> 00:43:48.793
And for that reason, that's why I'm going 55.

00:43:48.793 --> 00:43:52.673
And it's just like, come at me, bitch.

00:43:52.673 --> 00:43:55.943
then it's just like, come on, bro.

00:43:55.943 --> 00:43:58.134
What's up?

00:43:58.134 --> 00:44:00.333
It's just like, you know what?

00:44:00.958 --> 00:44:07.351
You think you know what you're gonna get with Cal Stark because you read his previous works and then you read his newest one.

00:44:07.351 --> 00:44:11.202
You're just like, he just keeps finding ways to surprise you.

00:44:11.864 --> 00:44:13.284
So, yeah.

00:44:13.284 --> 00:44:15.545
You know, I've talked to Kyle a couple of times here on the show.

00:44:15.545 --> 00:44:17.916
He's always an incredible person to have on the show.

00:44:17.916 --> 00:44:27.072
He's long-winded and I mean that respectfully and in the best way possible because he will talk and talk and talk and it's awesome to hear him talk because he's like extremely intelligent and funny person overall.

00:44:27.072 --> 00:44:28.893
And we've had him on twice.

00:44:28.893 --> 00:44:30.382
It's always a great conversation.

00:44:30.382 --> 00:44:35.282
Unfortunately, again, with my bank account, see the thing about my bank account is I got my checking and my savings.

00:44:35.282 --> 00:44:37.442
Unfortunately, I don't, I don't have the funds.

00:44:37.442 --> 00:44:39.362
So I'm to back out on Kyle Starks.

00:44:39.362 --> 00:44:50.961
I wish you both well in this venture and I'm jealous because he is on my list, but unfortunately I do not have the funds right now to, and if I want to get to the people that I want to get to at some point, Kyle Starks, unfortunately does not have a spot on my roster.

00:44:50.961 --> 00:44:54.461
Why did we agree to 300 from 500?

00:44:54.461 --> 00:44:56.402
You made up the rule.

00:44:59.461 --> 00:45:00.096
shit.

00:45:00.096 --> 00:45:00.565
It's me.

00:45:00.565 --> 00:45:01.297
I'm the problem.

00:45:01.297 --> 00:45:02.206
OK.

00:45:03.527 --> 00:45:04.387
We're at fifty five.

00:45:04.387 --> 00:45:08.880
We've got one minute to remind you just because the clock ends does that mean we stop bidding?

00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:13.273
So if you're waiting till someone wins, you know, I'm not I'm I'm not I'm thinking really hard.

00:45:13.273 --> 00:45:15.914
I'm just thinking fifty five dollars for Kyle Starks.

00:45:15.914 --> 00:45:16.695
Fifty five.

00:45:16.695 --> 00:45:17.206
He can have it.

00:45:17.206 --> 00:45:17.576
He can have it.

00:45:17.576 --> 00:45:18.655
I'm a pivot.

00:45:18.655 --> 00:45:19.996
Five.

00:45:19.996 --> 00:45:20.617
He can have it.

00:45:20.617 --> 00:45:21.197
right.

00:45:21.197 --> 00:45:22.297
I bow out.

00:45:22.579 --> 00:45:29.003
So fifty five going once, going twice and sold sold to.

00:45:29.003 --> 00:45:30.034
Greg.

00:45:30.094 --> 00:45:30.764
All right.

00:45:30.764 --> 00:45:34.088
So right now, up next, we have Bada.

00:45:34.088 --> 00:45:35.818
Bada, you are up next here.

00:45:35.853 --> 00:45:36.980
What are we thinking?

00:45:36.980 --> 00:45:42.465
See, this is what happens when you you want to control the rules and make them and come back and bite you in the ass.

00:45:42.465 --> 00:45:43.556
It hurts so much worse.

00:45:43.556 --> 00:45:44.757
OK, you know what?

00:45:44.757 --> 00:45:51.492
I'm going take a page from Greg's book and thinking about, you know, my my lead player, my QB player.

00:45:51.952 --> 00:45:55.016
I need a writer because a comic book needs a plot.

00:45:55.016 --> 00:45:58.568
So I'm going to nominate.

00:45:59.115 --> 00:46:00.326
Rom V.

00:46:00.567 --> 00:46:02.068
All right.

00:46:02.068 --> 00:46:03.989
Go for a solid 30.

00:46:03.989 --> 00:46:05.311
Let's start out with a solid 30.

00:46:05.311 --> 00:46:07.351
That's going to my opening.

00:46:07.351 --> 00:46:08.813
Wager Rom V.

00:46:08.813 --> 00:46:15.858
mean, another person who has had a stellar year and I'm not just like a seller, but I still are like like past couple of years.

00:46:15.858 --> 00:46:24.664
And I keep looking at you, someone that you think he is someone that you think has been around for a lot longer than he really is.

00:46:24.664 --> 00:46:32.300
I think it's to say around like The first time I heard of him was in 2019 when he put out these Savage Shores, which I still have not read.

00:46:32.300 --> 00:46:34.271
I need to do a better job of catching up.

00:46:34.271 --> 00:46:38.516
But ever since then, mean, it's been, you the rest is history for him.

00:46:38.516 --> 00:46:48.485
These Savage Shores, I mean, he's immediately went into DC, Aquaman, Detective Comics, Mini-Dev's Layla Star of Boom Studios, Rare Flavors.

00:46:48.485 --> 00:46:51.407
He's doing the new gods, is it absolute new gods?

00:46:51.407 --> 00:46:52.989
I think it's just new gods.

00:46:52.989 --> 00:46:54.329
Just regular new gods.

00:46:54.925 --> 00:46:58.844
And for a good reason, this guy has an ability to write aura.

00:46:58.844 --> 00:47:00.806
That is the best way I'd describe it.

00:47:00.806 --> 00:47:05.306
His writing has a certain aura to it, a certain feel.

00:47:05.306 --> 00:47:07.795
He knows how to get metaphysical.

00:47:07.795 --> 00:47:24.585
To me, he is, I want to say one for one, but when I think of folks like Grant Morrison that are a little heady, a little okay to bring very serious and esoteric themes to their writing, Ron V all day.

00:47:24.791 --> 00:47:31.385
To me, anytime that he writes a book, it's at least worth checking out the first couple of issues to see if it's your thing.

00:47:31.385 --> 00:47:34.708
So I'm going on Rom V, a strong writer for the team.

00:47:34.708 --> 00:47:35.467
Well said, butter.

00:47:35.467 --> 00:47:36.168
I agree.

00:47:36.168 --> 00:47:38.469
$30 for Rom V.

00:47:38.489 --> 00:47:39.931
I'm going to do $35 for Rom V.

00:47:39.931 --> 00:47:45.494
I will say that Rom, to this day in Oblivion Bar history, I don't know if I've ever actually shared this on the show.

00:47:45.494 --> 00:47:53.565
I know I've definitely told both of you about it in our group chat, but the Rom V, Evan Cagle conversation that I had with them about Detective Comics.

00:47:53.565 --> 00:47:56.728
is to date one of the hardest conversations that I've ever had.

00:47:56.728 --> 00:48:05.393
And I owe Ram a bit of gratitude because he was one of the very first guests that I've had on the show where he just refused to explain things.

00:48:05.393 --> 00:48:10.956
Like I would ask him, what was sort of the process or what did you, what were you trying to say with this and this?

00:48:10.956 --> 00:48:12.135
And he refused to say it.

00:48:12.135 --> 00:48:15.918
And his reasoning for that is, that it's not up to him.

00:48:15.918 --> 00:48:21.561
The moment he puts pen to paper, this work is no longer his, it is the readers.

00:48:21.561 --> 00:48:27.153
So whatever the reader gloms from that story is sort of what it was meant to be.

00:48:27.153 --> 00:48:29.114
And I just really respect it about him.

00:48:29.114 --> 00:48:31.054
So I'm gonna do 35 for Ron B.

00:48:31.054 --> 00:48:33.253
All well I'm gonna go 45.

00:48:33.253 --> 00:48:33.934
45?

00:48:33.934 --> 00:48:52.393
gonna challenge that, Because for those exact reasons, I'm sorry to interrupt, Greg, but for those exact reasons, I think we want more people that think critically and very hard about comic books and the relationship between the artists and the writers.

00:48:52.878 --> 00:48:57.978
when you have someone and you know, he comes from a, I think he was like a what, engineer, right?

00:48:57.978 --> 00:49:02.697
He was like, he went to like, he's got like PhDs to his name, I believe, but he went to like college.

00:49:02.697 --> 00:49:09.038
He's got like degrees under his name, like for a very, like, I don't know, methodical thinking.

00:49:09.038 --> 00:49:16.197
And I think he brings that to his writing, like a sense of intelligence, a sense of like professionalism, an air of like sophistication.

00:49:16.197 --> 00:49:17.898
And that's what I want in my comic books.

00:49:17.898 --> 00:49:20.686
And as well as like what ideas he can bring.

00:49:20.686 --> 00:49:23.266
that maybe we, you know, that are fresh and new.

00:49:23.266 --> 00:49:26.146
So Greg, you want to challenge that or say anything to it?

00:49:26.146 --> 00:49:26.976
No, you're good.

00:49:26.976 --> 00:49:29.795
I I was going to bid 40, but you bid 45.

00:49:29.795 --> 00:49:32.045
So I guess I'm fucking moot at this point.

00:49:32.045 --> 00:49:33.695
Dude, you don't need two riders, Greg.

00:49:33.695 --> 00:49:34.675
You don't need two riders.

00:49:34.675 --> 00:49:35.556
You got Kyle Starks.

00:49:35.556 --> 00:49:36.766
Come on, baby.

00:49:37.166 --> 00:49:48.994
But the thing about Ram-V is, and I'm officially backing out from the bidding, the thing about the Ram-V is he's following in the same footsteps as a lot of others before him, like Chip and James Tynion.

00:49:48.994 --> 00:49:55.777
and Tom King to an extent, like they were indie darlings who just absolutely annihilated it.

00:49:55.777 --> 00:50:00.518
And then they slowly stepped into the main two era of Marvel and DC.

00:50:00.518 --> 00:50:13.244
And that's when like, I don't want to say like the eyes of the comic industry were on them, but it's just like everyone who was like reading Batman or like Daredevil were just like, who's this like Rom V guy or like Tom King guy.

00:50:13.244 --> 00:50:15.885
And then everyone found out what us.

00:50:16.233 --> 00:50:28.713
Indie readers already knew and it's just like it's fun to see that for him of just like stepping into that larger role and just Killing it like Detective Comics is Amazing this new new god stuff.

00:50:28.713 --> 00:50:34.219
He's gonna be doing I know it's gonna be bonkers I think he did some venom stuff with yep.

00:50:34.219 --> 00:50:35.030
allowing yep.

00:50:35.030 --> 00:50:48.275
Mm-hmm is incredible like it's so nice and it feels like you're watching a friend succeed at something because you've read their work so long that it's like Hell yeah, Rom V, go fucking get that bag, brother.

00:50:48.275 --> 00:50:54.077
Really love his work on the well him him and Dan Waters on the six fingers in the one hand that they're doing over on it.

00:50:54.077 --> 00:50:54.688
so good.

00:50:54.688 --> 00:50:56.318
That side by side parallel story.

00:50:56.318 --> 00:50:57.699
It's really great.

00:50:57.699 --> 00:51:00.090
But unfortunately, I don't have the funds for it.

00:51:00.090 --> 00:51:01.490
So I'm going to back out as well.

00:51:01.490 --> 00:51:04.001
And that's actually the end of our time there with Rom V.

00:51:04.001 --> 00:51:05.731
So you have him.

00:51:05.731 --> 00:51:06.382
Let me go in.

00:51:06.382 --> 00:51:07.603
Both of five.

00:51:07.603 --> 00:51:09.384
Where's my gavel at here?

00:51:09.384 --> 00:51:10.664
That Cheddar cheese water.

00:51:10.664 --> 00:51:12.965
You get Rom V at forty five dollars.

00:51:12.965 --> 00:51:14.606
So I think.

00:51:15.045 --> 00:51:17.927
Is that am I up or is it Greg?

00:51:17.927 --> 00:51:19.148
Greg, think you might actually might be.

00:51:19.148 --> 00:51:20.108
I'm Yep.

00:51:20.108 --> 00:51:20.699
All right, Greg.

00:51:20.699 --> 00:51:22.929
Who is your who's your third nomination here?

00:51:22.929 --> 00:51:37.175
For my third nomination, I'm going to go for someone who is in a long staple in the industry and who has been making some massive hits as of recently with his imprint giant generator.

00:51:37.454 --> 00:51:37.835
Mr.

00:51:37.835 --> 00:51:38.956
Rick Remender.

00:51:38.956 --> 00:51:39.775
right.

00:51:39.775 --> 00:51:41.536
What were we starting the bidding at?

00:51:42.766 --> 00:51:44.141
25.

00:51:45.686 --> 00:51:50.286
You got Napalm Lullaby, Deadly Class, Seven Two Eternity.

00:51:50.286 --> 00:51:53.510
I think he's doing grommets with Brian Posehn.

00:51:53.510 --> 00:51:54.739
The guy's just like blowing up.

00:51:54.739 --> 00:51:58.891
He started his Giant Generator stuff and he's just like, all right, I'm getting my team together.

00:51:58.891 --> 00:52:03.153
He did what we're doing right now for like real life.

00:52:03.153 --> 00:52:06.195
created this amazing imprint on Giant Generator.

00:52:06.195 --> 00:52:10.677
And it's just like the dude's hitting gold, like one after the other.

00:52:10.677 --> 00:52:12.927
And specifically, like I'm loving grommets.

00:52:12.927 --> 00:52:14.228
Like it's just a...

00:52:14.614 --> 00:52:25.478
nostalgic story about skateboards and punk rock and, you know, identity and like you have Brian Posey on there, who is an amazing standup comedian as well as a great comic book writer.

00:52:25.478 --> 00:52:32.300
So I think he's just kind of this like threat that no one perceives as a threat because it's just, you know, it's Rick Remender.

00:52:32.300 --> 00:52:37.702
Like he's just like an easy breezy kind of guy, but he will just throw daggers all night.

00:52:37.702 --> 00:52:40.244
And so, yeah, Rick Remender.

00:52:40.344 --> 00:52:40.985
Rick Remender.

00:52:40.985 --> 00:52:42.275
That's he's on my list as well.

00:52:42.275 --> 00:52:43.945
Again, talk about business savvy.

00:52:43.945 --> 00:52:50.009
has made himself a little nice nook over in the image comics world with the giant generator world.

00:52:50.009 --> 00:52:51.710
He can pretty much do whatever he wants now.

00:52:51.710 --> 00:52:55.072
Speaking again of deadly class with Wes Craig, he's done so much.

00:52:55.072 --> 00:53:13.518
think I, this is sort of a low hanging fruit, but one of my favorite X-Men stories of all time is of course, uncanny X-Force, just an incredible sort of talk about elevating at that time, the X-Men brand where if you guys can remember back to the early 2010s, the X-Men line wasn't doing very well.

00:53:13.518 --> 00:53:20.137
And it was like really one of the only highlights in that corner of the Marvel universe was the uncanny X-Force that he was doing there.

00:53:20.137 --> 00:53:26.878
I think that's maybe the last time that we'll see Rick Remender writing a big two book, but I'm so happy that we have it.

00:53:26.878 --> 00:53:30.378
So for 25, mean, $30 for Rick Remender.

00:53:30.378 --> 00:53:30.777
Why not?

00:53:30.777 --> 00:53:31.657
Let's do it.

00:53:31.657 --> 00:53:33.217
I'll see you at $30.

00:53:33.217 --> 00:53:33.797
$30.

00:53:33.797 --> 00:53:35.157
I'll raise you $35.

00:53:35.157 --> 00:53:37.878
$35 right now for about a Rick Remender.

00:53:37.878 --> 00:53:38.858
Giant generator.

00:53:38.858 --> 00:53:40.918
Do you want that on your team?

00:53:41.137 --> 00:53:43.217
Think about all the resources.

00:53:43.789 --> 00:53:46.650
$40 for Rick I'll do $45.

00:53:46.650 --> 00:53:48.070
$45 for Rick Reminder.

00:53:48.070 --> 00:53:49.849
I'll let you out so you fight it out.

00:53:49.849 --> 00:53:52.070
$45 is what I will stop at.

00:53:52.070 --> 00:53:57.090
now we have to get into the thing now because like I have two people of my own bidding.

00:53:57.090 --> 00:54:05.550
If you get this, if you one, I'm kind of hooked unless you guys throw out absolute trash, which I don't think you're going to.

00:54:06.530 --> 00:54:07.880
I forgot all about that part.

00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:11.110
OK, damn, I got to rethink the strategy.

00:54:11.110 --> 00:54:12.269
All right, Chris.

00:54:12.269 --> 00:54:12.974
All you.

00:54:12.974 --> 00:54:15.436
You me a recommender for 45?

00:54:15.436 --> 00:54:16.077
Yeah.

00:54:16.077 --> 00:54:16.797
All right.

00:54:16.797 --> 00:54:17.759
You're welcome.

00:54:17.759 --> 00:54:18.429
That's a good one.

00:54:18.429 --> 00:54:23.324
I think that's actually could be the steal of the day because right now the lowest so far we've been Rom V at 45.

00:54:23.324 --> 00:54:26.547
I got recommender and no no shame to Rom V.

00:54:26.547 --> 00:54:31.371
I think recommender just sort of has sort of supplanted his flag in comic history.

00:54:31.371 --> 00:54:32.032
Yeah.

00:54:32.032 --> 00:54:33.123
So OK.

00:54:33.123 --> 00:54:33.913
All right.

00:54:33.913 --> 00:54:36.976
Well, you know, to be honest, I'm happy that I got recommender.

00:54:36.976 --> 00:54:39.233
But let me do my gal really quick.

00:54:39.762 --> 00:54:45.545
I will say that the funds are not looking good, especially because I have two picks in a row here.

00:54:45.545 --> 00:54:53.289
So the gavel sounded like on New Year's Eve, the game that we all play gunshots or fireworks.

00:54:53.289 --> 00:55:00.474
That's what I would just like to start their own imprint called the Ninth Circle as well.

00:55:00.594 --> 00:55:01.514
They may have.

00:55:01.514 --> 00:55:03.976
Yeah, I'm not sure, actually, but that doesn't surprise me.

00:55:03.976 --> 00:55:05.197
So let's see here.

00:55:05.197 --> 00:55:06.862
I have two picks in a row here.

00:55:06.862 --> 00:55:11.802
I got to play smart here because I have currently the way my roster is set up.

00:55:11.802 --> 00:55:17.422
I have only one of my own picks with Scottie Young, but I have three people and only $125.

00:55:17.461 --> 00:55:20.601
So I'm going to do something risky here.

00:55:20.601 --> 00:55:23.641
And I'm sort of annoyed that I put myself in this place.

00:55:23.641 --> 00:55:28.742
I'm going to do Fiona Staples at $25.

00:55:28.742 --> 00:55:32.077
Fiona Staples at $25, arguably the greatest.

00:55:32.077 --> 00:55:34.338
female artist in comic history.

00:55:34.338 --> 00:55:36.197
You know, as many people know, I'm a giant saga fan.

00:55:36.197 --> 00:55:37.898
It's my favorite comic of all time.

00:55:37.898 --> 00:55:38.288
Brian K.

00:55:38.288 --> 00:55:39.577
Vaughn is my favorite writer of all time.

00:55:39.577 --> 00:55:41.677
Fiona Staples, one of my favorite artists of all time.

00:55:41.677 --> 00:55:47.128
But again, the way my checking and my savings is set up, only have so much.

00:55:47.128 --> 00:55:49.338
So I'll do $25 Fiona Staples.

00:55:49.338 --> 00:55:50.438
35.

00:55:51.018 --> 00:55:51.717
35.

00:55:51.717 --> 00:55:52.478
35.

00:55:52.478 --> 00:55:55.248
I'd do a four to five because.

00:55:55.248 --> 00:55:56.197
Damn you guys.

00:55:56.197 --> 00:56:00.929
I think, like I said, I'm approaching this as building a team.

00:56:00.929 --> 00:56:03.590
to sell the ultimate comic book.

00:56:03.590 --> 00:56:07.351
I feel like if anyone, Fiona Staples does not just do a bunch of work.

00:56:07.351 --> 00:56:11.873
mean, Saga comes to mind obviously first at the top of the head.

00:56:11.873 --> 00:56:25.056
I think you also might think like the short run she did on Archie of Mark Waid, but she seems like someone that is very meticulous and selective about the projects that she jumps on because her artwork is so incredible.

00:56:25.056 --> 00:56:28.141
It looks like she's aware of how much time it takes.

00:56:28.141 --> 00:56:30.081
So I think she's like an automatic seller.

00:56:30.081 --> 00:56:32.311
see Fiona Staples name on a comic book.

00:56:32.311 --> 00:56:34.742
You're more than likely going to sell it and people are going to pick it up.

00:56:34.742 --> 00:56:35.922
It's going to sell.

00:56:35.961 --> 00:56:37.641
I'll do 45.

00:56:37.641 --> 00:56:38.702
$50 from Greg.

00:56:38.702 --> 00:56:40.641
How much money you got over there, Greg?

00:56:40.641 --> 00:56:42.121
He's got 175.

00:56:42.121 --> 00:56:43.101
You have 175.

00:56:43.101 --> 00:56:46.961
I'm trying to count pockets for jeez.

00:56:47.161 --> 00:56:48.202
Hmm.

00:56:48.202 --> 00:56:52.021
I'm angry that you guys didn't just let me have this, by the way.

00:56:52.322 --> 00:56:55.891
while you guys are thinking about this, I will just say that when speaking to Brian K.

00:56:55.891 --> 00:56:57.902
Vaughn on the show, Brian.

00:56:57.902 --> 00:57:07.626
And this could have just been him being humble, but I kind of believe him when he says that most of the best parts of saga and there are a lot of great parts came directly from Fiona Staples of cerebellum.

00:57:07.626 --> 00:57:12.268
Like she is the she is the genius behind saga.

00:57:12.268 --> 00:57:19.030
He even says at one point in our conversation that not only is she an incredible artist, but she's a better writer than him, which again, could be him being humble.

00:57:19.030 --> 00:57:23.512
But I tend to see a little bit of truth there, you know, with Fiona.

00:57:23.512 --> 00:57:26.393
So currently at was it 50 right now?

00:57:26.393 --> 00:57:26.958
Yeah.

00:57:26.958 --> 00:57:28.597
50 for Greg.

00:57:29.838 --> 00:57:34.228
I'm going to do 55.

00:57:34.228 --> 00:57:42.737
55 for Fiona Staples and it'll satisfy the rule that's coming to bite me in the butt about not having the team of everyone I pick.

00:57:42.737 --> 00:57:45.797
So Fiona Staples was a damn good suggestion.

00:57:46.597 --> 00:57:47.697
I'm so out.

00:57:47.697 --> 00:57:49.057
It's annoying.

00:57:49.358 --> 00:57:51.137
Greg, you fight for this for me?

00:57:51.137 --> 00:57:54.777
What if I do 70?

00:57:54.918 --> 00:57:56.117
70.

00:57:56.576 --> 00:57:57.505
I'd say 70.

00:57:57.505 --> 00:58:06.050
First issue club is going to treat you so good.

00:58:07.811 --> 00:58:12.833
Do we have a fighter for 70 fighter for 70 for Fiona Staples going once?

00:58:12.833 --> 00:58:14.632
We two minutes, so there's plenty of time left.

00:58:14.632 --> 00:58:15.385
minutes.

00:58:15.385 --> 00:58:17.875
Come on.

00:58:17.875 --> 00:58:19.175
You know what?

00:58:19.594 --> 00:58:21.166
I'm a go.

00:58:21.166 --> 00:58:23.016
Should I say that?

00:58:25.686 --> 00:58:27.101
75757575 75.

00:58:27.101 --> 00:58:27.442
All right.

00:58:27.442 --> 00:58:32.961
Currently in a close second behind Scottie Young for the most expensive creators thus far at 80.

00:58:32.961 --> 00:58:34.431
Do I see 80 from?

00:58:34.431 --> 00:58:35.402
I'm out.

00:58:35.402 --> 00:58:35.882
No 80.

00:58:35.882 --> 00:58:36.581
can't do 80.

00:58:36.581 --> 00:58:38.141
75 going once.

00:58:38.141 --> 00:58:40.512
can't 75 going twice.

00:58:40.512 --> 00:58:43.862
I mean, Fiona Sables on the lineup is going to look pretty sick.

00:58:43.981 --> 00:58:44.722
75.

00:58:44.722 --> 00:58:46.681
must be broke now.

00:58:47.141 --> 00:58:52.362
Well, the way it's looking right now, we've got Botter's at 130.

00:58:52.362 --> 00:58:55.661
Let's do a quick Chris count my pockets, man.

00:58:55.661 --> 00:58:56.632
Come on.

00:58:57.693 --> 00:58:59.403
We got a gift card that I got.

00:58:59.403 --> 00:59:01.916
Can I use the fifty dollar gift card?

00:59:01.916 --> 00:59:05.878
But before credit, I got credit.

00:59:05.878 --> 00:59:06.289
Yeah.

00:59:06.289 --> 00:59:06.869
Yeah.

00:59:06.869 --> 00:59:07.971
You got a venture discount.

00:59:07.971 --> 00:59:09.592
What's going on?

00:59:09.592 --> 00:59:10.010
All right.

00:59:10.010 --> 00:59:10.693
I stand firm.

00:59:10.693 --> 00:59:11.422
I stand firm.

00:59:11.422 --> 00:59:12.603
Whatever price I just said.

00:59:12.603 --> 00:59:13.157
Seventy five.

00:59:13.157 --> 00:59:14.664
All Let me do my gavel here.

00:59:14.726 --> 00:59:15.545
Seventy five here.

00:59:15.545 --> 00:59:16.786
Fiona Staples going to bottom.

00:59:16.786 --> 00:59:20.909
OK, so we're kind of at the halfway point because we've all we've done three rounds.

00:59:20.909 --> 00:59:25.909
And the way our teams are looking right now, does this make sense here?

00:59:26.329 --> 00:59:28.260
Maybe I'm wrong here on the three rounds part.

00:59:28.260 --> 00:59:29.989
Don't vet me, anyone listening right now.

00:59:29.989 --> 00:59:33.289
currently the way it stands is I have $125.

00:59:33.289 --> 00:59:37.769
My team looks like Wes Craig, Scotty Young, and Rick Verminder.

00:59:37.769 --> 00:59:40.789
Scotty being the only pick that I have.

00:59:40.789 --> 00:59:41.150
Solid.

00:59:41.150 --> 00:59:46.769
Greg is sitting at 175 with Kelly Thompson and Cal Starks, both his picks.

00:59:46.769 --> 00:59:49.965
And then Bodder at 130 has Jody Belair.

00:59:49.965 --> 00:59:53.248
excuse me, Jordy Belair, Rom V and Fiona Staples.

00:59:53.248 --> 00:59:54.998
I mean, and that could be it for me right there.

00:59:54.998 --> 00:59:56.728
It's like, boom, that's, mean, yeah.

00:59:56.728 --> 00:59:59.250
Writer, artist, colorist.

00:59:59.250 --> 01:00:00.411
mean, what else do I need?

01:00:00.411 --> 01:00:02.231
I mean, a whole lot more, but still.

01:00:03.411 --> 01:00:05.713
Well, we got three more people to go still.

01:00:06.293 --> 01:00:07.623
ahead.

01:00:07.623 --> 01:00:15.565
may I suggest a mid game rule change that I think might add some pep to the steps and really raise the stakes.

01:00:15.565 --> 01:00:16.146
What do we got?

01:00:16.146 --> 01:00:48.581
I say instead of five minutes cut that bitch down to three minutes really put some pressure Really put some pressure on us put some pressure on the heat is on that's what I'm saying Let's let's get it so hot that Greg goes from a cherry red to fucking fireball, you know supernova I don't know what's happening with my camera's color correction, but I look like you guys can't see this if you're listening, but we've got Greg All-day bender just like going at it Butters like he got a green hue to his and I'm like, I've got a dark shadow behind me.

01:00:48.581 --> 01:00:50.342
I don't really know what's happening on my end either.

01:00:50.342 --> 01:00:51.842
But all right, let's take it down to three minutes.

01:00:51.842 --> 01:00:52.922
OK, come on.

01:00:52.922 --> 01:00:54.541
Three minutes, three minutes.

01:00:54.541 --> 01:00:55.782
OK, here we go.

01:00:55.782 --> 01:00:59.061
So for my third, I think it's my third pick.

01:00:59.061 --> 01:01:00.751
We've got let's see here.

01:01:00.751 --> 01:01:03.271
I'm actually taking this is like the start around for.

01:01:03.271 --> 01:01:03.601
Yes.

01:01:03.601 --> 01:01:04.202
Yeah, you're right.

01:01:04.202 --> 01:01:04.851
You're right.

01:01:04.851 --> 01:01:07.521
So I got a hundred twenty five dollars.

01:01:07.521 --> 01:01:08.902
I'm going to go sneaky here.

01:01:08.902 --> 01:01:13.313
And I hope you guys don't challenge me for this, but I'm going to do Denzy Camp.

01:01:13.313 --> 01:01:19.835
current writer of The Ultimates and the upcoming Ultimate Wolverine, among other things, 20th Century Men.

01:01:19.835 --> 01:01:24.856
I'm going to go $15 for Denzi, sort of a newer name in the comic world.

01:01:24.856 --> 01:01:35.039
But in my opinion, I think one of the true up and comers, I would not be surprised if in three years Denzi has a couple of Isendr noms, maybe even a win.

01:01:35.380 --> 01:01:42.925
would I think between him and Hickman is sort of leading the charge when it comes to the ultimate universe over at Marvel, which in my opinion, and I'd love to hear your guys thoughts on it.

01:01:42.925 --> 01:01:44.365
looking pretty good so far.

01:01:44.365 --> 01:01:46.076
I'm a big fan of all the runs.

01:01:46.076 --> 01:01:55.865
I actually haven't really been keeping up on the Black Panther run quite yet, but I will say that the Ultimates, the Ultimate X-Men, and then Spider-Man have all been great.

01:01:55.985 --> 01:01:57.356
So $15 for Den-Z Camp.

01:01:57.356 --> 01:02:03.246
I went, I can't believe I'm gonna let you have that for 15, but I just dropped a lot of money.

01:02:03.246 --> 01:02:05.266
Cause you're not, someone's been 25.

01:02:05.865 --> 01:02:06.505
nice.

01:02:06.505 --> 01:02:07.565
25.

01:02:07.565 --> 01:02:10.885
you said about, it's Den-Z, right?

01:02:10.885 --> 01:02:11.246
Den-Z?

01:02:11.246 --> 01:02:12.661
I think it's Den-Z Camp, yeah.

01:02:12.661 --> 01:02:14.983
Everything you've said about him is accurate.

01:02:14.983 --> 01:02:23.005
I went from being kind of iffy on picking up the Ultimates to now that is like, that's top of the reading pile.

01:02:23.005 --> 01:02:28.389
I think I look forward to that more than dare I say, Ultimate Spider-Man by Hickman.

01:02:28.389 --> 01:02:36.532
Which is saying a lot, but I feel like every time you read an issue of Ultimates by him, there's so much nuance to it.

01:02:36.612 --> 01:02:41.101
You end up leaving with a lesson, know, something to chew on, you know, mentally.

01:02:41.101 --> 01:02:45.161
And yeah, I'm like, well, what else has he written that I'm not aware of?

01:02:45.161 --> 01:02:52.222
Like, you know, I think it goes back to what Greg was saying about when these indie darlings end up going absolute manhunter as well.

01:02:52.222 --> 01:02:53.121
that's right.

01:02:53.322 --> 01:02:53.742
that's right.

01:02:53.742 --> 01:02:53.922
Yeah.

01:02:53.922 --> 01:02:54.692
He's over in the DC years.

01:02:54.692 --> 01:02:55.481
I totally forgot about that.

01:02:55.481 --> 01:02:55.902
You're right.

01:02:55.902 --> 01:03:04.722
I have not read 20th century men, but if it's as good as everyone says it is, if it's any indication, if Ultimus is any indication of how good that is, I'll be on that.

01:03:04.722 --> 01:03:05.822
You lucky lucky man.

01:03:05.822 --> 01:03:06.911
I'm doing 30.

01:03:06.911 --> 01:03:08.702
I'll do 30 for Denzy.

01:03:08.782 --> 01:03:09.422
Damn it.

01:03:09.422 --> 01:03:10.041
Greg.

01:03:10.041 --> 01:03:11.981
Greg's at the bank.

01:03:11.981 --> 01:03:13.362
Actually, I'll do 40.

01:03:13.362 --> 01:03:14.342
40?

01:03:14.541 --> 01:03:15.681
I'm out.

01:03:15.681 --> 01:03:18.041
Federal Reserve Lick Tide, ladies and gentlemen.

01:03:18.041 --> 01:03:19.001
Yeah, no.

01:03:19.001 --> 01:03:23.362
I'm now looking at what they've done and what they're going to be doing.

01:03:23.362 --> 01:03:24.222
Yeah.

01:03:24.501 --> 01:03:25.411
right.

01:03:25.411 --> 01:03:25.851
Damn.

01:03:25.851 --> 01:03:28.342
I got about a minute left, but I can't do...

01:03:28.342 --> 01:03:32.742
I'm at 125 and I got two more rosters or three more spots to fill.

01:03:33.342 --> 01:03:37.826
So, Greg, I think you might have your very first non-Greg pick.

01:03:37.826 --> 01:03:38.945
with Denzy Camp at $40.

01:03:38.945 --> 01:03:40.065
That's a good pickup.

01:03:40.065 --> 01:03:40.447
All right.

01:03:40.447 --> 01:03:41.077
Where's my gavel at?

01:03:41.077 --> 01:03:41.646
Geez.

01:03:41.646 --> 01:03:42.766
What a pick.

01:03:42.766 --> 01:03:43.628
Now, I'm kind of mad.

01:03:43.628 --> 01:03:45.648
I was hoping that I would just sort of get him.

01:03:45.648 --> 01:03:47.349
But all right.

01:03:47.349 --> 01:03:49.208
Denzy Camp off the board.

01:03:49.208 --> 01:03:50.980
And that leaves Greg up next.

01:03:50.980 --> 01:03:53.945
So, Greg, what are your thoughts here with your next pick?

01:03:53.945 --> 01:03:54.721
All right.

01:03:54.721 --> 01:04:01.512
So I'm going to throw out Declan Chalde.

01:04:01.846 --> 01:04:02.202
all right.

01:04:02.202 --> 01:04:05.994
Before time, Moon Knight, Thundercats, Terminator, Alien.

01:04:06.177 --> 01:04:10.920
Also does the writer-artist combo when called upon.

01:04:10.920 --> 01:04:21.445
This is a name that has been in the indie world for a long time and that is now being utilized by Marvel primarily a ton to amazing success.

01:04:21.445 --> 01:04:29.389
think it's like him and Benjamin Percy are the people that they go to for like all the 20th century stuff and they're just like fucking cooking over there.

01:04:29.389 --> 01:04:32.610
I think he's just like a solid...

01:04:32.717 --> 01:04:34.117
like foundational pick.

01:04:34.117 --> 01:04:43.777
Like he's the guy that's just like, if you need something done, that'll appeal to like the indie crowd and like the, the, the big two kind of crowd.

01:04:43.777 --> 01:04:47.498
Declan is the one you go to and I'll do a 25.

01:04:47.498 --> 01:04:49.757
We'll start low for the quarter.

01:04:49.757 --> 01:05:03.708
again, I'm, I'm out on really, I really have to be selective and I love Declan Shalvey, especially that moon night that he did with Warren Ellis, but I, I just don't know if I have the funds to fight for Declan when I have Still a couple picks left.

01:05:03.708 --> 01:05:05.657
I went too hard with Scotty Young.

01:05:05.657 --> 01:05:07.077
it.

01:05:07.378 --> 01:05:20.797
I will see Greg's 25 and raise him 30 for Declan Shelby because Declan Shelby, much like Kelly Thompson is a name that has quality behind it.

01:05:20.797 --> 01:05:27.838
The guy is got one hell of an eye for, mean, you know, and I'm coming at it from a Declan Shelby cover.

01:05:27.838 --> 01:05:30.137
Come on, you can put your money.

01:05:30.137 --> 01:05:30.606
yeah.

01:05:30.606 --> 01:05:37.065
He's got such a great eye for design, thinking outside of the box, know, action and all of that.

01:05:37.065 --> 01:05:41.356
So Declan Shelby would be welcomed to this roster over here.

01:05:41.356 --> 01:05:43.186
Greg, rebuttal at 30.

01:05:43.246 --> 01:05:45.496
I love that you should use it.

01:05:45.496 --> 01:05:47.166
wouldn't have a pencil.

01:05:47.585 --> 01:05:51.126
Botter Milligan note, mind you.

01:05:51.126 --> 01:05:52.606
irony is not lost.

01:05:52.606 --> 01:05:55.626
Sounds like I Declan Shelby added to the roster.

01:05:55.626 --> 01:05:58.445
Another one stolen from going twice.

01:05:58.445 --> 01:05:59.106
That's good.

01:05:59.106 --> 01:06:00.085
God damn it.

01:06:00.085 --> 01:06:01.905
Lenshalvy at $30 to Bodder.

01:06:01.905 --> 01:06:04.166
All right, Bodder, you're sitting at $100 even right now.

01:06:04.166 --> 01:06:06.766
And I think it is your pick as well.

01:06:06.766 --> 01:06:10.025
What do you have here for your fifth spot on your roster?

01:06:10.686 --> 01:06:19.496
Man, I kind of definitely shot myself in the foot by having jumping the gun a little soon on the artist because I had a man.

01:06:19.496 --> 01:06:21.846
I can't wait to tell you who I had on the lineup for the artist.

01:06:21.846 --> 01:06:25.786
But that aside, I'm going go for a little curve ball here.

01:06:25.786 --> 01:06:26.445
OK.

01:06:26.445 --> 01:06:31.425
We're over here talking about amazing writers, up and coming creatives and things like that.

01:06:31.425 --> 01:06:37.326
But you know what else makes or break a comic book in my opinion is the staples, some good.

01:06:38.545 --> 01:06:40.025
Spot gloss.

01:06:41.806 --> 01:06:45.295
I wish I had the name of like a staple company that I could just toss it in.

01:06:45.295 --> 01:06:47.965
like for $25 staples are us.

01:06:47.965 --> 01:06:50.465
No, I'm going to enough of a bustard.

01:06:50.465 --> 01:06:54.266
I'm going to throw out Hassan Otsman Elhout.

01:06:54.326 --> 01:06:55.501
I had a my list too.

01:06:55.501 --> 01:07:04.882
Fantastic letterer, but also an amazing comic critic, which he was name dropped in the last year's episode, but no one actually bid on him.

01:07:04.882 --> 01:07:08.842
So with that said, I'm going to start the bid with him at 20 bucks.

01:07:08.842 --> 01:07:14.052
So 20 bucks for Hassan Outsman-El Haou because- 25 for my end.

01:07:14.052 --> 01:07:15.112
All right, all right.

01:07:15.112 --> 01:07:16.322
Chris, see what you want to do.

01:07:16.322 --> 01:07:18.842
All right, then I will go 35.

01:07:18.842 --> 01:07:25.442
And I will continue saying what I'm saying about Hassan because he, what was it?

01:07:25.853 --> 01:07:27.213
was absolute.

01:07:27.393 --> 01:07:27.784
my God.

01:07:27.784 --> 01:07:29.233
What did he just do?

01:07:29.293 --> 01:07:30.514
I'm thinking it's a Tana.

01:07:30.514 --> 01:07:32.724
There's a Tana Black Label book that's currently out.

01:07:32.724 --> 01:07:36.204
Bring the House Down is phenomenal.

01:07:36.204 --> 01:07:52.014
Not only because you've got Javier Rodriguez doing the artwork, which he's already bringing a funky style, a pop art sensibility and amazing colors, but pay attention to the lettering, the captions, the automata, Pias.

01:07:52.014 --> 01:07:54.150
Like it all brings it together.

01:07:54.150 --> 01:08:02.353
And I feel like everything I said about colorists kind of going unappreciated or kind of like slowly getting their appropriate spotlight.

01:08:02.353 --> 01:08:06.536
I think the letters is still an uphill battle for a lot of folks.

01:08:06.536 --> 01:08:18.081
So to have someone like Hassan Osman Alhaw who elevates the craft, who brings like a great design sensibility to a comic book, if I get them on the squad, I'm gonna have one of the best looking comic books ever.

01:08:18.081 --> 01:08:19.597
So Hassan Osman Alhaw.

01:08:19.597 --> 01:08:20.167
35.

01:08:20.167 --> 01:08:20.877
I'm going to challenge that.

01:08:20.877 --> 01:08:22.028
I'm going to do 40 for Hassan.

01:08:22.028 --> 01:08:22.847
Chris, come on, man.

01:08:22.847 --> 01:08:23.278
You don't have to.

01:08:23.278 --> 01:08:29.658
Not only is he one of the best letters in the game, not only did win an Eisner, but he was also the editor of VanLex panel.

01:08:29.677 --> 01:08:33.778
Potter, speaking as your accountant, you need to stop.

01:08:35.457 --> 01:08:37.297
45 for Hassan right now.

01:08:37.297 --> 01:08:38.337
45.

01:08:38.337 --> 01:08:39.318
All right.

01:08:39.318 --> 01:08:46.358
Next year's game, we all have to have our mothers on the call and for them to be like, honey, you can't afford that.

01:08:46.358 --> 01:08:48.270
And have life on the call next time.

01:08:48.270 --> 01:08:50.729
How much are you spending on these imaginary people?

01:08:50.729 --> 01:08:51.539
Greg, what are your thoughts?

01:08:51.539 --> 01:08:53.060
you going to bid on the sign here again?

01:08:53.060 --> 01:08:54.189
One of the best letters in the game?

01:08:54.189 --> 01:08:54.399
can't.

01:08:54.399 --> 01:08:56.140
mean, he's got a plan.

01:08:56.140 --> 01:08:56.670
Look at Greg.

01:08:56.670 --> 01:08:57.170
Wow.

01:08:57.170 --> 01:08:57.770
No, I can't.

01:08:57.770 --> 01:09:04.770
Too rich for my blood and with with what's Look, I'm going to do 50, 50 real quick for us.

01:09:04.770 --> 01:09:05.789
Christ.

01:09:05.789 --> 01:09:06.350
Yep.

01:09:06.350 --> 01:09:07.949
I'm OK with that again.

01:09:07.949 --> 01:09:12.409
Hassan, in my opinion, and there are a lot of great letters out there, but I think he is just so far and away.

01:09:12.409 --> 01:09:14.250
Just number one in my book.

01:09:14.250 --> 01:09:15.118
So.

01:09:15.118 --> 01:09:21.278
Speaking to Christian Ward about this on our City of Madness, he just cannot talk enough about Hasan and his work as a letterer.

01:09:21.278 --> 01:09:24.097
So I'm very confident at 50.

01:09:24.097 --> 01:09:26.908
Also Hasan is a writer himself.

01:09:26.908 --> 01:09:33.377
mean, aside from being like a comic critic, a journalist, a fantastic anchor, he's a writer too.

01:09:33.377 --> 01:09:39.257
I think he had a project with Junie Ba where he was like either a co-writer or on the project.

01:09:39.257 --> 01:09:41.578
So for those, I feel like I'm on Shark Check.

01:09:41.578 --> 01:09:44.622
For those reasons, I'm out, but I'm not gonna be out because I was stalling time.

01:09:44.622 --> 01:09:46.402
I'm going to go ahead and bid him for 55.

01:09:46.402 --> 01:09:46.681
Fuck it.

01:09:46.681 --> 01:09:48.661
I'm going to go 55 for okay.

01:09:48.661 --> 01:09:49.101
I'm out.

01:09:49.101 --> 01:09:51.202
55 is a good one.

01:09:51.202 --> 01:09:51.891
All right.

01:09:51.891 --> 01:09:52.322
Shoot.

01:09:52.322 --> 01:09:54.162
I tried hard for that one everybody.

01:09:54.162 --> 01:09:56.462
If you're listening for some reason, which I know you're not, I tried.

01:09:56.462 --> 01:09:57.841
All right.

01:09:57.841 --> 01:10:01.452
But Asana, if you are listening, remember when I had you on the podcast, had such a great time.

01:10:01.452 --> 01:10:02.181
Come on back buddy.

01:10:02.181 --> 01:10:02.551
We were friends.

01:10:02.551 --> 01:10:03.582
You had a great conversation.

01:10:03.582 --> 01:10:06.421
I was going to, I was going to talk about that earlier before I start trying to outbid you.

01:10:06.421 --> 01:10:07.442
was, was a great talk.

01:10:07.442 --> 01:10:11.402
I was thinking about, I threw in the extra five because I was like, his personality was great.

01:10:11.402 --> 01:10:11.931
He was so nice.

01:10:11.931 --> 01:10:12.782
Yeah, absolutely.

01:10:12.782 --> 01:10:14.478
Come on now man.

01:10:14.478 --> 01:10:16.377
Welcome to the squad, baby.

01:10:16.658 --> 01:10:18.847
You know, Bod, you're sitting at a pretty decent spot.

01:10:18.847 --> 01:10:21.738
You've got $45 left, but you only have one spot to fill.

01:10:21.738 --> 01:10:23.858
So your team is looking good.

01:10:23.858 --> 01:10:24.268
Hold on.

01:10:24.268 --> 01:10:25.417
And this is the important part.

01:10:25.417 --> 01:10:28.057
This last pick, is it going to be his or someone else?

01:10:28.057 --> 01:10:30.398
He has one more pick for himself.

01:10:30.677 --> 01:10:31.177
Yeah.

01:10:31.177 --> 01:10:33.438
See, I strategically was playing this game.

01:10:33.438 --> 01:10:35.198
He's like, I meant to do that, everybody.

01:10:35.198 --> 01:10:36.398
I don't know if you know this or not.

01:10:36.398 --> 01:10:38.097
this a school for ants?

01:10:39.158 --> 01:10:40.637
Greg, you are up next.

01:10:40.637 --> 01:10:42.578
Who do you have on your board?

01:10:42.578 --> 01:10:49.841
This is going to be a personal pick for me, someone who I have loved for a long time and who I am hoping to get on my team.

01:10:49.841 --> 01:10:58.306
Brett Parson, who has done the Tank Girl series out on Titan and the Grommet series currently going on Giant Generator with RecreMender.

01:10:58.707 --> 01:11:10.037
His style is so stylized and neat and like honed in and it feels like you're watching a Saturday cartoon and like you're also like...

01:11:10.037 --> 01:11:17.194
It's a trick of the eye of just like, you look at his artwork and it's like, is this comparable to anyone?

01:11:17.194 --> 01:11:25.162
You're just like, no, it's like an emotion that you're feeling of just like whimsy and like fun of like your younger days of just like.

01:11:25.162 --> 01:11:26.226
No cares in the world.

01:11:26.226 --> 01:11:29.994
And like, think Brett just perfectly encapsulates that kind of feeling in his artwork.

01:11:29.994 --> 01:11:33.967
Greg, the biggest grommets fan in the universe right now.

01:11:33.967 --> 01:11:35.479
I'm throwing down on that series.

01:11:35.479 --> 01:11:37.010
That's good.

01:11:37.010 --> 01:11:41.532
Why haven't thrown out Brian Posey's name yet is beyond me.

01:11:41.532 --> 01:11:42.154
Ten bucks.

01:11:42.154 --> 01:11:43.204
Ten bucks.

01:11:43.204 --> 01:11:43.505
nice.

01:11:43.505 --> 01:11:44.171
I like it.

01:11:44.171 --> 01:11:44.876
All right.

01:11:44.876 --> 01:11:45.855
Strong.

01:11:45.855 --> 01:11:50.760
Brett, when you type in Brett Parson in Google, they show he pops up as visual artist.

01:11:50.760 --> 01:11:52.270
And I think that is so accurate.

01:11:52.270 --> 01:11:54.471
I know we're starting to do that.

01:11:55.934 --> 01:11:59.054
Google's just like, we don't want to put comic book artists.

01:11:59.054 --> 01:12:01.094
He's way cooler than that.

01:12:01.713 --> 01:12:02.512
Yeah.

01:12:02.512 --> 01:12:03.113
All right.

01:12:03.113 --> 01:12:05.043
Well, I can't challenge for Brett, unfortunately.

01:12:05.043 --> 01:12:06.203
I don't have the funds for it.

01:12:06.203 --> 01:12:08.663
But I want to have a pick.

01:12:08.663 --> 01:12:09.594
That's a great pick.

01:12:09.594 --> 01:12:09.993
Yeah.

01:12:09.993 --> 01:12:11.694
That's like a Monja Janobly type of pick.

01:12:11.694 --> 01:12:13.673
Like just coming off the bench six man.

01:12:13.673 --> 01:12:15.974
No one knows how valuable he is until he's in the game.

01:12:15.974 --> 01:12:19.573
I, know, unfortunately, again, the way my team is set up, I just don't have the funds.

01:12:19.573 --> 01:12:21.354
We should have done 500, everybody.

01:12:21.506 --> 01:12:22.411
We really screwed this up.

01:12:22.411 --> 01:12:24.636
$500 would been much better, but that's okay.

01:12:24.636 --> 01:12:25.856
You know, you live and you learn with these.

01:12:25.856 --> 01:12:27.927
That's next year's, resolve.

01:12:27.927 --> 01:12:28.547
There you go.

01:12:28.547 --> 01:12:29.028
Yeah.

01:12:29.028 --> 01:12:30.216
Brett Parsons for $10.

01:12:30.216 --> 01:12:30.578
Yeah.

01:12:30.578 --> 01:12:34.909
If you want to know more about Brett, go read the Tank Girl stuff from Titan comics.

01:12:34.909 --> 01:12:41.292
Like Tank Girl is already an amazing series, but like the vividness he brought to the new series was fantastic.

01:12:41.292 --> 01:12:45.912
So, I'm happy to be getting this pick, on the cheap.

01:12:45.912 --> 01:12:49.113
I feel like he's going to be my, my rally pick.

01:12:49.113 --> 01:12:50.134
There you go.

01:12:50.380 --> 01:12:52.001
Gavel goes live.

01:12:52.001 --> 01:12:53.235
Brett Parsons for $10.

01:12:53.235 --> 01:12:54.672
The steal of the night so far.

01:12:54.672 --> 01:12:57.585
The cheapest one before that was $30 for Declan Shalvey.

01:12:57.585 --> 01:12:59.345
So great pick, Greg.

01:12:59.345 --> 01:13:00.917
I have two picks here.

01:13:00.936 --> 01:13:02.978
Let's see who we have here.

01:13:03.078 --> 01:13:05.951
I'm currently sitting at $125 just so everybody knows.

01:13:05.951 --> 01:13:10.904
And I'm going to go with someone.

01:13:11.505 --> 01:13:12.725
This is funny.

01:13:12.826 --> 01:13:13.626
You know what?

01:13:13.626 --> 01:13:15.146
Yeah, I'm going to do this here.

01:13:15.146 --> 01:13:19.310
Let's go with Robert Kirkman for $25.

01:13:19.310 --> 01:13:20.909
Robert Kirkman for $25.

01:13:20.909 --> 01:13:22.180
What do you guys got?

01:13:22.180 --> 01:13:23.409
Do want to challenge me?

01:13:23.409 --> 01:13:24.529
$50.

01:13:24.630 --> 01:13:25.250
Nice.

01:13:25.250 --> 01:13:25.859
Get it, Greg.

01:13:25.859 --> 01:13:26.979
Don't make it easy on him.

01:13:26.979 --> 01:13:28.750
Don't fucking make it easy on him.

01:13:28.750 --> 01:13:29.750
All right.

01:13:29.750 --> 01:13:31.529
Robert Kirkman.

01:13:31.529 --> 01:13:32.189
$50.

01:13:32.189 --> 01:13:32.550
Damn.

01:13:32.550 --> 01:13:33.229
Okay.

01:13:33.229 --> 01:13:33.470
Yeah.

01:13:33.470 --> 01:13:36.869
I mean, we've been talking about, I'm not bidding by the way.

01:13:36.869 --> 01:13:38.050
The tumors for my blood.

01:13:38.050 --> 01:13:39.329
can't even compete.

01:13:39.409 --> 01:13:41.819
He's like the, like the new Godfather.

01:13:41.819 --> 01:13:43.069
That's what I'm saying.

01:13:43.069 --> 01:13:47.086
We've been talking about business savvy creators.

01:13:47.671 --> 01:13:51.175
Look no further than Robert Kirkman.

01:13:51.175 --> 01:13:54.307
Came in as a talented writer.

01:13:54.307 --> 01:13:59.371
I think he was like immediately, what role did they give him at Image?

01:14:00.072 --> 01:14:01.212
CEO?

01:14:01.212 --> 01:14:03.375
think Maybe editor in chief or something?

01:14:03.375 --> 01:14:08.279
They gave him a pretty prominent role pretty early on because his Walking Dead was killing it.

01:14:08.279 --> 01:14:12.503
And then eventually now he runs Skybound, which I...

01:14:12.503 --> 01:14:19.798
To me, sometimes you forget that's just an imprint of image because it feels like it's, no, it is its own thing.

01:14:19.800 --> 01:14:25.555
It could be its own publisher itself from the branding, the marketing, the talent.

01:14:25.555 --> 01:14:25.774
Yeah.

01:14:25.774 --> 01:14:32.791
I just shared with you guys not too long ago that I recently just picked up Firepower for the first time and started reading the hardcovers and God, if that's not just a great book.

01:14:32.791 --> 01:14:37.694
And it's so easy to overlook Robert Kirkman because he's just done it so many times.

01:14:37.694 --> 01:14:39.595
Walking Dead, Invincible.

01:14:39.615 --> 01:14:42.171
mean, again, Firepower, you could throw in.

01:14:42.171 --> 01:14:45.274
You can even throw an oblivion song if that's your speed.

01:14:45.274 --> 01:14:47.056
You know, got Marvel zombies, of course.

01:14:47.056 --> 01:14:55.716
Like, it's so funny to me to think about how, and I think this is sort of known among the masses that Robert Kirkman had to lie to Image to get The Walking Dead created.

01:14:55.716 --> 01:14:57.981
And it ended up working out in the best way.

01:14:57.981 --> 01:15:04.864
And I love the story about how he sort of pitched the walking dead, the fake story for the walking dead while driving a comic creator to the airport.

01:15:04.864 --> 01:15:09.056
If I remember that story correctly, could be, don't bet me on that everybody, I could be telling a lie.

01:15:09.056 --> 01:15:13.769
But if I remember correctly, the way he got his name in on Image was he was working at a comic shop.

01:15:13.769 --> 01:15:19.072
He was driving a comic creator, high up comic creator, I'm forgetting the name now, to the airport, pitched it.

01:15:19.072 --> 01:15:23.332
The comic creator put a good word in with Image and that's how he eventually got the walking decorated.

01:15:23.332 --> 01:15:24.052
So.

01:15:24.974 --> 01:15:25.953
Yeah, I had no idea.

01:15:25.953 --> 01:15:27.814
I knew about the fake walking dead story.

01:15:27.814 --> 01:15:29.423
I didn't know about the airport story.

01:15:29.423 --> 01:15:34.503
Now I'm beating myself up for all the times I've been like, I can't drive them to the airport because I got stuff going on.

01:15:34.503 --> 01:15:36.213
Son of a bitch.

01:15:36.673 --> 01:15:38.213
Robert Kirkman for fifty five.

01:15:38.213 --> 01:15:39.804
I will do fifty five.

01:15:39.804 --> 01:15:40.283
Earned it.

01:15:40.283 --> 01:15:40.793
That's it.

01:15:40.793 --> 01:15:42.253
That's the high price tag.

01:15:42.253 --> 01:15:44.064
You have Robert Kirkman on your team.

01:15:44.064 --> 01:15:45.654
I'll I'll do sixty.

01:15:46.134 --> 01:15:46.654
Sixty.

01:15:46.654 --> 01:15:47.323
OK, I'm out.

01:15:47.323 --> 01:15:47.934
I don't have it.

01:15:47.934 --> 01:15:49.094
I don't have it.

01:15:49.094 --> 01:15:50.073
So can leave.

01:15:50.073 --> 01:15:52.206
Hercules going once.

01:15:52.206 --> 01:15:53.305
You don't have the funds.

01:15:53.305 --> 01:15:56.506
can't that.

01:15:56.685 --> 01:15:57.586
have say it like that.

01:15:57.586 --> 01:15:58.695
mean, geez.

01:15:58.695 --> 01:16:00.645
You don't have to play brokey.

01:16:00.645 --> 01:16:01.305
Brokey.

01:16:01.305 --> 01:16:02.386
Brokey.

01:16:02.565 --> 01:16:03.166
Brokey.

01:16:03.166 --> 01:16:04.546
Broke boy over here.

01:16:04.546 --> 01:16:05.985
All right.

01:16:06.006 --> 01:16:07.025
I guess.

01:16:07.025 --> 01:16:08.805
has been sitting.

01:16:08.805 --> 01:16:10.185
What is that phrase?

01:16:10.185 --> 01:16:15.735
In stock market, there's like a bear market and then like a pig market or something like that.

01:16:15.735 --> 01:16:17.305
All bear over there.

01:16:17.305 --> 01:16:18.046
All right.

01:16:18.046 --> 01:16:18.685
Here we go.

01:16:18.685 --> 01:16:19.206
Gavel.

01:16:19.206 --> 01:16:20.765
Robert Kirkman for $60.

01:16:20.765 --> 01:16:22.158
Over to Greg.

01:16:22.158 --> 01:16:25.818
Greg, you are currently sitting at $65 now.

01:16:25.818 --> 01:16:31.427
Somehow through the ebbs and flows of this draft, I now sit atop with the most money.

01:16:31.427 --> 01:16:37.738
don't know how seeing how I came out hot with Scottie Young and Wes Craig at $80 and $60.

01:16:37.738 --> 01:16:38.938
But here we are.

01:16:38.938 --> 01:16:40.738
And I have one more pick.

01:16:40.738 --> 01:16:48.238
And gentlemen, I think I'm going to come in with another heavy hitter because I think I can beat you guys for this.

01:16:48.238 --> 01:16:51.917
Let's do Mike Magnolia for $35.

01:16:52.078 --> 01:16:54.557
Mike Mignogna, $35.

01:16:54.578 --> 01:16:56.898
God, oof.

01:16:56.898 --> 01:16:58.137
What do you guys got?

01:16:58.137 --> 01:16:59.078
Let's see here.

01:16:59.078 --> 01:17:00.938
Now that we're playing with fire.

01:17:00.938 --> 01:17:02.318
Mike Mignola.

01:17:02.318 --> 01:17:02.797
mean, what?

01:17:02.797 --> 01:17:04.478
Of course, Hellboy fame.

01:17:04.478 --> 01:17:05.518
Everybody knows.

01:17:05.518 --> 01:17:07.578
We don't really need to say much, to be honest.

01:17:07.578 --> 01:17:09.037
I'll do 45.

01:17:09.037 --> 01:17:09.877
45.

01:17:09.877 --> 01:17:11.207
I'll do 50.

01:17:14.310 --> 01:17:20.893
I was gonna throw my hat in for 45, but I was gonna wait until the clock got down just a little more.

01:17:20.893 --> 01:17:22.993
But you guys have fun fighting this one out.

01:17:22.993 --> 01:17:24.885
Damn, Mike Mignolo would be such a good...

01:17:24.885 --> 01:17:27.435
Because, you know, he brings all that experience.

01:17:27.435 --> 01:17:29.815
He brings the name recognition.

01:17:29.957 --> 01:17:32.328
He's built his own little empire as well through Dark Horse.

01:17:32.328 --> 01:17:38.729
obviously he doesn't have his own imprint, but through BPRD and Hellboy and everything else he's done over at Dark Horse, he's been there since the early 90s.

01:17:38.729 --> 01:17:39.520
Like, come on.

01:17:39.520 --> 01:17:42.702
And Hellboy has just been consistently...

01:17:42.702 --> 01:17:47.702
You're talking about like Usagi, Ojimbo consistently good through its entire run.

01:17:47.702 --> 01:17:49.952
So $50 for Mike Magnolia.

01:17:49.952 --> 01:17:51.002
I'm happy about that.

01:17:51.002 --> 01:17:52.282
Greg, what are your thoughts?

01:17:52.282 --> 01:17:54.101
My thoughts are I'm going to go 65.

01:17:54.101 --> 01:17:54.641
Nice.

01:17:54.641 --> 01:17:56.452
I'll do 70 and I'll beat you out.

01:17:56.452 --> 01:17:58.181
I don't have any money.

01:17:58.181 --> 01:17:58.881
$70.

01:17:58.881 --> 01:18:00.862
I'll take it for 75.

01:18:01.462 --> 01:18:06.822
It's a little unfair that Chris over there knows all of our wallet accounts.

01:18:06.881 --> 01:18:09.082
I got access to everybody's account.

01:18:09.082 --> 01:18:11.898
Well, just so that Everybody is, let me do my gavel really quick.

01:18:11.898 --> 01:18:13.738
Cause I got Mike Magnolia for 70.

01:18:13.738 --> 01:18:15.497
I have the two highest, no, I'm sorry.

01:18:15.497 --> 01:18:16.898
I don't have the two highest, the highest beds.

01:18:16.898 --> 01:18:22.957
You guys got Fiona Staples at 75, bought her and then Kelly Thompson, Greg, you got him or got her for 75.

01:18:22.957 --> 01:18:25.297
So I'm happy with Mike at 70.

01:18:25.297 --> 01:18:26.037
That's a great pick.

01:18:26.037 --> 01:18:28.978
think even though it's a big amount, I think that's still a bargain.

01:18:28.978 --> 01:18:31.618
I'll just do a quick, just so everybody's tracking at home.

01:18:31.618 --> 01:18:33.507
I currently am sitting at $45.

01:18:33.507 --> 01:18:36.778
I've got Wes Craig, Scotty Young, Rick Verminder, Mike Magnolia.

01:18:36.778 --> 01:18:38.957
We got Greg at $65.

01:18:38.957 --> 01:18:54.278
Kelly Thompson, Kyle Starks, Denzy Camp, Brett Parson, Robert Kirkman, and you have Bodder at $45, Jordy Belair, Ram V, Fiona Staples, Declan Shave, Hassan Otsman, Elhelm, excuse me, like I said, $45.

01:18:54.278 --> 01:18:58.597
So Bodder's currently winning in the utility camp.

01:18:58.597 --> 01:19:01.229
Greg is currently winning I think in.

01:19:01.229 --> 01:19:06.042
Well, actually, I think of all of our teams, Greg, you kind of have like a little bit of everything.

01:19:06.042 --> 01:19:07.014
You've got a great writer.

01:19:07.014 --> 01:19:08.305
You've got a good writer artist.

01:19:08.305 --> 01:19:09.895
You've got a good up and comer.

01:19:09.895 --> 01:19:13.109
You've got a quick I would say.

01:19:13.109 --> 01:19:14.939
And again, I mean this respectfully.

01:19:14.939 --> 01:19:17.711
You've got a bargain pick here with with Brett Parson.

01:19:17.711 --> 01:19:19.823
You have a giant with Robert Kirkman.

01:19:19.823 --> 01:19:22.024
And, know, I like I like my team as well.

01:19:22.024 --> 01:19:23.615
Wes Craig's got a young Rick Bremender.

01:19:23.615 --> 01:19:27.408
I've got two empire guys with Rick Bremender and Mike Magnolia.

01:19:27.408 --> 01:19:30.229
So, Greg, it is your pick.

01:19:30.229 --> 01:19:33.631
A pic that I can't bid on, so this is gonna be fun.

01:19:34.750 --> 01:19:46.063
I will say, I'm torn between these two because one is a hometown boy and the other is one who is like building an empire themselves.

01:19:47.503 --> 01:19:51.067
I'm gonna go with Matthew Rosenberg.

01:19:51.728 --> 01:19:53.139
What's the furthest place from here?

01:19:53.139 --> 01:19:54.770
We can never go home.

01:19:54.789 --> 01:19:59.934
Four kids walk into a bank, which is turning into a movie or a TV show, one of them.

01:20:01.057 --> 01:20:03.478
Matthew Rosenberg is one those.

01:20:03.478 --> 01:20:03.658
bet?

01:20:03.658 --> 01:20:05.018
Really quick before we go on.

01:20:05.158 --> 01:20:05.717
30.

01:20:05.717 --> 01:20:06.318
30?

01:20:06.318 --> 01:20:06.747
All right.

01:20:06.747 --> 01:20:15.278
Matthew Rosenberg is one of those guys that is inputting his love of music into his work love, which is comic books.

01:20:15.278 --> 01:20:21.967
And you see that a lot in What's the Furthest Place From Here, but you can tell that he is just like a music guy.

01:20:21.967 --> 01:20:28.694
He loves finding rare hidden gems and finding ways to use that in his comic books.

01:20:28.694 --> 01:20:31.595
And I really, really respect that.

01:20:31.595 --> 01:20:40.958
you know, Mike D had his band when he was in college and Mike Russo, the budget king, was a big music promoter, had his own music label.

01:20:40.958 --> 01:20:54.344
So collectively as a first issue club, volume one, we had a lot of music talk on our show and Matthew Rosenberg was a guy that we always talked about because he just had such an affinity for music.

01:20:54.645 --> 01:20:54.724
wow.

01:20:54.724 --> 01:20:55.448
I know any of that.

01:20:55.448 --> 01:20:55.944
That's cool.

01:20:55.944 --> 01:20:57.926
And I've never thought to...

01:20:58.231 --> 01:21:03.141
Call any of my past, any of the past iterations of the short box, volume one or volume two.

01:21:03.141 --> 01:21:05.088
That's fucking genius, Greg.

01:21:05.770 --> 01:21:06.240
Thank you.

01:21:06.240 --> 01:21:06.581
Thank you.

01:21:06.581 --> 01:21:06.990
You know what?

01:21:06.990 --> 01:21:18.823
Just for the sheer fact that Matthew Rosenberg is competing with us with Ashcan Press over at Substack with his podcast featuring the Supple Boys, I will not bid out of pure spite because he's hilarious.

01:21:18.823 --> 01:21:20.685
So I will not bid.

01:21:21.037 --> 01:21:21.787
Bader, what are your thoughts?

01:21:21.787 --> 01:21:23.908
$45, you've got one spot left.

01:21:23.908 --> 01:21:27.104
Yeah, I'm thinking I'm gonna hold on to my last spot here.

01:21:27.104 --> 01:21:31.507
And only because admittedly, I don't know much about Matthew Rosenberg.

01:21:31.507 --> 01:21:37.778
But hearing Greg talk about how cool he is and the musicality, which is always is a surefire way to win me over.

01:21:37.778 --> 01:21:39.814
I don't know much about the comic side like that.

01:21:39.814 --> 01:21:41.136
I won't, you and that's on me.

01:21:41.136 --> 01:21:43.639
So Greg, I humbly bow out.

01:21:43.639 --> 01:21:47.481
You've got some like, you got some cool, I'm sorry, you got some cool.

01:21:47.807 --> 01:21:53.061
out of left field picks with the Brett Parsons, Matt Rosenberg.

01:21:53.061 --> 01:21:57.404
This is definitely a you line up that you got going on.

01:21:57.404 --> 01:21:58.255
I respect that.

01:21:58.255 --> 01:21:58.654
I'm good.

01:21:58.654 --> 01:21:59.247
I bow out.

01:21:59.247 --> 01:22:03.679
I was joking earlier, Four Kids Walk Into a Bank is a fucking bonafide classic.

01:22:03.679 --> 01:22:11.453
It's literally just like, talk about a staple for around the time I started picking up comics, which was around like 2012, 2013.

01:22:11.453 --> 01:22:18.405
I've always been into comics, but around the time where I was like really, really becoming a Wednesday warrior, Four kids walk into a bank.

01:22:18.405 --> 01:22:23.145
Go into any comic shop and just ask all the people that work there, what's your favorite comic?

01:22:23.145 --> 01:22:26.145
Four kids walk into a bank is gonna be one of their favorites.

01:22:26.145 --> 01:22:30.166
But unfortunately, again, the way my team is set up, I can't really bid for him.

01:22:30.166 --> 01:22:33.426
I will say that, Greg, you now have four picks on your team.

01:22:33.426 --> 01:22:39.605
But I think just, I guess the way the draft has sort of fallen, we kind of have to give you Matthew Rosenberg here.

01:22:39.605 --> 01:22:41.685
So we're already breaking rules, but that's all right.

01:22:41.685 --> 01:22:42.525
son of a bitch.

01:22:42.525 --> 01:22:43.626
Hey, okay.

01:22:43.626 --> 01:22:45.166
then my team's fucked Collusion.

01:22:45.166 --> 01:22:46.555
But you are also done, Greg.

01:22:46.555 --> 01:22:47.435
You have your roster.

01:22:47.435 --> 01:22:48.845
You are good to go.

01:22:48.845 --> 01:22:49.975
So, Bodder, what are your thoughts here?

01:22:49.975 --> 01:22:51.466
You're you have five picks here.

01:22:51.466 --> 01:22:52.996
I have four people on my team.

01:22:52.996 --> 01:22:54.506
What is your next pick?

01:22:54.506 --> 01:22:55.805
All right.

01:22:55.805 --> 01:23:02.485
Now I'm going to deviate from the plan because I, you know, I felt like there was a little bit of, a little bit of a Duncan on me.

01:23:02.485 --> 01:23:09.206
You know, you guys have all these like premier A-list superstar names and you guys were like, yeah, Bodder's got a good little silly team.

01:23:09.626 --> 01:23:10.365
Respectfully.

01:23:10.365 --> 01:23:10.956
Cute man.

01:23:10.956 --> 01:23:11.765
Cute.

01:23:12.006 --> 01:23:14.246
So, so I think I need to.

01:23:14.829 --> 01:23:20.600
I was going to go in my very nerdy fucking self-important way.

01:23:20.600 --> 01:23:23.090
was gonna go, well, my next pick is gonna be an editor.

01:23:23.090 --> 01:23:31.069
I it's gonna be Chris Conroy, which I think I would make that assumption, but I've only got one slot left and I wanna end it in a bank.

01:23:31.069 --> 01:23:34.329
So I'm going to nominate Frank Quietly.

01:23:34.329 --> 01:23:35.670
Ooh, I like it.

01:23:35.670 --> 01:23:38.159
And my opening bid will be for 25.

01:23:38.159 --> 01:23:39.949
Damn, that's a good pick.

01:23:39.949 --> 01:23:41.359
Why Frank Quietly?

01:23:41.359 --> 01:23:43.438
Frank Quietly, and I had to look it up.

01:23:43.438 --> 01:23:44.979
because Frank Pyle is kind of deceiving.

01:23:44.979 --> 01:23:47.069
You're like, he's still doing stuff.

01:23:47.069 --> 01:23:48.390
And it's like, yeah, he's still doing stuff.

01:23:48.390 --> 01:23:51.863
But I think he's also at a point in his career where he's very selective.

01:23:51.863 --> 01:24:05.523
The last thing I could find is that in 2022, he did the first issue of the Mark Millar Ambassadors series, which I believe that whole series premise was that every issue there's gonna be a different artist, et cetera, et cetera.

01:24:05.523 --> 01:24:12.557
And I think he now just, you can definitely catch a variant cover by him floating around out there every couple of months.

01:24:12.557 --> 01:24:14.738
But Frank Quietly, man, come on.

01:24:14.957 --> 01:24:15.858
Tremendous artist.

01:24:15.858 --> 01:24:17.297
He's worked with the best.

01:24:17.297 --> 01:24:18.927
I I brought up Grant Morrison.

01:24:18.927 --> 01:24:23.627
He's damn near, you know, glued to Grant Morrison's hip in terms of new X-Men.

01:24:23.627 --> 01:24:26.818
mean, absolute Batman and Robin.

01:24:26.818 --> 01:24:28.278
The list goes on.

01:24:28.278 --> 01:24:29.938
It's Frank Quietly.

01:24:29.938 --> 01:24:34.658
So I figured I've got Declan Shelby, who I believe is Irish.

01:24:34.698 --> 01:24:38.177
then I think, and then Frank Quietly, he's a Scotsman.

01:24:38.177 --> 01:24:40.257
I mean, bring some of that European.

01:24:40.257 --> 01:24:45.841
you know, UK flair to the, to the lineup, give Declan Shelby a buddy that could relate to everything.

01:24:45.841 --> 01:24:46.612
mean, yeah.

01:24:46.612 --> 01:24:53.067
Speaking of like your favorite artists is artists, know, talk about, talk to the giants in the comic industry.

01:24:53.067 --> 01:25:07.697
Frank quietly is often being brought up as like, you know, when I first started reading comics says, you know, Robert Kirkman, he will talk about Frank quietly in that light that like, if it had not been for Frank quietly in his work, that artist would have never continued to read comics.

01:25:07.697 --> 01:25:09.337
So what a pick.

01:25:09.550 --> 01:25:11.569
Man, I really want to fight you on this.

01:25:11.569 --> 01:25:16.489
If I do this, if I go to 30, that leaves me with $15 and that's assuming that I win.

01:25:16.489 --> 01:25:19.930
So for that reason, sharks, I'm out.

01:25:19.930 --> 01:25:23.470
I got to unfortunately, I to give you Frank quietly.

01:25:23.729 --> 01:25:26.869
I got to give you, I got to give you Frank quietly at $20, $25.

01:25:26.869 --> 01:25:27.649
That's crazy.

01:25:27.649 --> 01:25:28.579
I will take it.

01:25:28.579 --> 01:25:29.350
And you know what?

01:25:29.350 --> 01:25:37.460
That is the not that saying that I didn't have some A-list star power, but I think Frank quietly is mainstream wise people.

01:25:37.460 --> 01:25:38.000
Yeah, come on.

01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:39.131
It's Frank quietly.

01:25:39.181 --> 01:25:39.591
Yeah.

01:25:39.591 --> 01:25:40.082
All right.

01:25:40.082 --> 01:25:41.431
Frank quietly at $25.

01:25:41.431 --> 01:25:42.381
Congratulations, Potter.

01:25:42.381 --> 01:25:44.921
But also your team is done, which means everybody.

01:25:44.921 --> 01:25:50.261
I don't know if everyone's keeping track at home, but I currently have two roster spots and $45 to play with.

01:25:50.261 --> 01:25:52.752
Let's see what I'm going to do here with my last two roster spots.

01:25:52.752 --> 01:25:54.282
It's by two compadres here.

01:25:54.282 --> 01:25:55.282
Can't fight me on it.

01:25:55.282 --> 01:26:00.462
So let's start off with James Tyne in the fourth at $25.

01:26:00.462 --> 01:26:02.381
Anybody, anybody want to us off?

01:26:02.381 --> 01:26:05.542
James Tyne in at 20, $25.

01:26:05.542 --> 01:26:07.712
Anybody want to do James Tyne in at 25?

01:26:07.712 --> 01:26:08.909
Do I hear 25?

01:26:08.909 --> 01:26:11.970
25 anybody going once.

01:26:12.170 --> 01:26:13.649
How much did I win?

01:26:13.649 --> 01:26:14.479
How much did I win?

01:26:14.479 --> 01:26:17.470
Frank quietly for you would have had those spots open.

01:26:17.470 --> 01:26:19.149
You would have had $15.

01:26:19.149 --> 01:26:21.710
I think you would have $20.

01:26:21.710 --> 01:26:23.689
What's the bench looking like?

01:26:23.829 --> 01:26:26.010
What's the bench now?

01:26:26.710 --> 01:26:27.329
All right.

01:26:27.329 --> 01:26:29.350
I get James signed in for $25.

01:26:29.350 --> 01:26:30.529
Let me do my gavel.

01:26:30.529 --> 01:26:34.050
And then for my last spot here, let me see.

01:26:34.050 --> 01:26:35.489
Let me check my list.

01:26:36.456 --> 01:26:40.387
Chris, how did you end up passing to the fifth round?

01:26:40.878 --> 01:26:41.189
man.

01:26:41.189 --> 01:26:42.140
I lost all my picks.

01:26:42.140 --> 01:26:43.831
You guys took all my guys.

01:26:44.752 --> 01:26:45.742
I'm not healthy about it.

01:26:45.742 --> 01:26:47.533
You know what?

01:26:47.533 --> 01:26:50.095
So, Chris, you had a bunch of great recommendations.

01:26:50.095 --> 01:26:51.617
That's what we stole.

01:26:51.617 --> 01:26:53.177
All of your great ideas.

01:26:53.177 --> 01:26:54.347
Yeah.

01:26:54.347 --> 01:26:55.038
You know what?

01:26:55.038 --> 01:26:56.579
I'm going to do.

01:26:56.579 --> 01:27:05.845
And again, this sort of works out, unfortunately, that like Greg and I both have four picks just because, again, the way the draft sort of laid out for my last pick.

01:27:06.061 --> 01:27:15.698
for my last $20 that I have, I'm going to do, and I have a couple of people, I'm just gonna go through the people that I'm deciding just so people can kind of go through my list.

01:27:15.698 --> 01:27:26.113
I've got Tyler Crook, Daniel Sampear, Mariko Tamaki, Jesse Lonergan, Jeff Lemire, Dave Chisholm, Patrick Horvath, Michael Allred are the people that I'm deciding between.

01:27:26.113 --> 01:27:29.666
mean, Jeff Lemire is a solid dunk.

01:27:29.666 --> 01:27:34.198
It's between Jeff Lemire, Mariko Tamaki, and Michael Allred for me.

01:27:34.220 --> 01:27:39.060
I just was recently talking to you guys on our group chat about how much I love Michael Allred's Silver Surfer run.

01:27:39.060 --> 01:27:41.872
Everybody knows Silver Surfer is my favorite character of all time.

01:27:41.872 --> 01:27:43.603
But Jeff Lemire, yeah, you know what?

01:27:43.603 --> 01:27:47.974
I think it might just have to be Jeff Lemire coming in at the tail end on my last pick.

01:27:47.974 --> 01:27:49.814
So we will do that for $20.

01:27:49.814 --> 01:27:51.055
utility pick as well.

01:27:51.055 --> 01:27:53.175
mean, writer and artist.

01:27:53.675 --> 01:27:56.456
You can never go wrong with having like a double or triple threat.

01:27:56.456 --> 01:27:56.685
mean.

01:27:56.685 --> 01:27:56.895
Yeah.

01:27:56.895 --> 01:27:59.516
And he's also, he does his own lettering as well.

01:27:59.546 --> 01:28:00.617
the triple threat's the lettering.

01:28:00.617 --> 01:28:01.077
Okay.

01:28:01.077 --> 01:28:01.978
Yeah.

01:28:03.118 --> 01:28:05.818
He also does the binding, which is crazy.

01:28:05.818 --> 01:28:07.917
You buy the staples.

01:28:09.837 --> 01:28:10.747
All righty.

01:28:10.747 --> 01:28:12.387
Well, let's go ahead and round this bad boy out.

01:28:12.387 --> 01:28:17.738
We could talk about James, but I think everybody here knows who those two creators are.

01:28:17.738 --> 01:28:18.957
I will say everything.

01:28:18.957 --> 01:28:22.417
Take everything we've been saying about everyone else and just multiply it by 10.

01:28:22.417 --> 01:28:23.068
There you go.

01:28:23.068 --> 01:28:23.377
Right.

01:28:23.377 --> 01:28:29.898
Those two guys are they're giants in the medium for James has been a recent giant with this tiny onion stuff.

01:28:29.898 --> 01:28:33.301
And Jeff Lemire has just been consistently one of the best creators in comics.

01:28:33.301 --> 01:28:36.523
So let's lay the land here a little bit.

01:28:36.523 --> 01:28:45.707
We've got my team sitting here at West Craig, Scotty Young, Rick Verminder, Mike Magnolia, James Tynan the fourth, Jeff Lemire.

01:28:45.707 --> 01:28:55.322
Greg is currently sitting at Kelly Thompson, Kyle Starks, Denzy Camp, Brett Parson, Robert Kirkman, Matthew Rosenberg.

01:28:55.322 --> 01:29:02.561
And then Bodders is bringing us up with Jody Belair, Rom V, Fiona Staples.

01:29:02.561 --> 01:29:08.042
Declan Shelby, Hassan Oztman, Elm Howe, and Frank Quietly.

01:29:08.042 --> 01:29:12.979
So that is our teams today for our second annual Comic Creator draft.

01:29:12.979 --> 01:29:14.060
Gentlemen, how do we feel?

01:29:14.060 --> 01:29:16.612
How do feel about our teams?

01:29:16.612 --> 01:29:21.574
I kind of hate this game because now I'm like, why doesn't this comic book exist?

01:29:22.355 --> 01:29:24.197
Who would be your writer on your team, Botter?

01:29:24.197 --> 01:29:29.140
I think I'd have Ron V as the lead writer, Declan Shelby backup.

01:29:29.140 --> 01:29:31.440
But that's what I'm saying about Declan Shelby, right?

01:29:32.095 --> 01:29:33.966
sit in on that, that writer role.

01:29:33.966 --> 01:29:37.569
He can also sit in on that, you know, I, Hey, we need a solid cover.

01:29:37.569 --> 01:29:38.470
Declan's like, I got it.

01:29:38.470 --> 01:29:38.791
I got it.

01:29:38.791 --> 01:29:41.842
Yo, give Fiona and Frank some time, you know, give them a little break.

01:29:41.842 --> 01:29:42.698
got, I got the covers.

01:29:42.698 --> 01:29:43.654
Don't worry about it.

01:29:43.654 --> 01:29:44.734
Hassan Esman, Al Hout.

01:29:44.734 --> 01:29:45.085
Come on.

01:29:45.085 --> 01:29:50.618
My squad is looking sharp and Jordy Belair cannot sleep on the contributions of a colorist.

01:29:50.618 --> 01:29:51.059
it.

01:29:51.059 --> 01:29:52.420
Greg, what are your thoughts on your team here?

01:29:52.420 --> 01:29:56.582
Are you happy with your, again, you got the steel of the draft with Brett Parson at $10.

01:29:56.582 --> 01:29:58.423
What are your thoughts on your team?

01:29:59.244 --> 01:30:00.905
I'm elated to be honest.

01:30:00.905 --> 01:30:09.356
And I'm looking at this list and I'm thinking, you know, in the context of what Bauder is doing, I'm just like, what book would they write?

01:30:09.356 --> 01:30:18.184
And I would love to see this team do like some kind of historical fiction series where like, you know, the dinosaurs, the meteor that came didn't kill the dinosaurs.

01:30:18.184 --> 01:30:23.998
So now we're living side by side, maybe a dyna-topia kind of thing, you know, journey to the center of the world.

01:30:23.998 --> 01:30:25.590
think there's a lot of...

01:30:25.876 --> 01:30:28.137
Action to be told there, some humor can be done.

01:30:28.137 --> 01:30:32.131
The artwork is gonna be fully covered with the people that I got.

01:30:32.131 --> 01:30:37.404
I got Kirkman on there as like one of those like classic editor kind of types.

01:30:37.404 --> 01:30:39.305
I got the Dark Horse with Brett Parson.

01:30:39.305 --> 01:30:43.079
I got a ton of utility players.

01:30:43.079 --> 01:30:44.940
I'm jazzed, I'm feeling real good.

01:30:44.940 --> 01:30:45.841
Sure, yeah.

01:30:45.841 --> 01:30:51.845
And again, I think the way that my team sort of set up there at the end, unfortunately I just got to be able to pick who I wanted, which...

01:30:51.845 --> 01:30:56.766
From my angle, I love but for the sake of the draft, we still have some fine tuning to go.

01:30:56.766 --> 01:31:12.152
But again, I'm also elated with my team mostly because my four pillars, would probably end up being Scotty Young, Mike Magnolia, James Tynan and Jeff Lemire and Rick Reminder, both of them are both titans in the industry in terms of building their brands.

01:31:12.271 --> 01:31:19.854
between those four guys with Wes Craig bringing up the tail end with both being an incredible writer and artist, I'm extremely happy with mine.

01:31:19.854 --> 01:31:23.314
From your guys' point of view, unbiasedly, who do you think has the best team?

01:31:26.354 --> 01:31:27.474
Me?

01:31:28.673 --> 01:31:29.894
Actually, no.

01:31:29.894 --> 01:31:31.333
I'm going to co-sign Greg.

01:31:31.333 --> 01:31:35.463
I mean, that's going to be a well-written fucking comic book right there.

01:31:35.463 --> 01:31:39.073
Kelly Thompson, Kyle Starks is going to be fucking funny.

01:31:39.413 --> 01:31:40.163
Matthew Rosen.

01:31:40.163 --> 01:31:41.873
I mean, I like Greg's a lot.

01:31:41.873 --> 01:31:47.404
I I went into this draft thinking I'm not leaving without Kelly Thompson.

01:31:47.404 --> 01:31:51.935
getting that pick solidified, I'm just like, all right, I have the Patrick Mahomes.

01:31:51.935 --> 01:31:53.846
I have the captain of my team right there.

01:31:53.846 --> 01:32:00.298
like, she's more than able to like pilot whatever happens with this team.

01:32:00.298 --> 01:32:10.042
It's funny that you have, I wouldn't say it's funny, it's interesting that you have Kelly Thompson as your quarterback and not Robert Kirkman, who has, you know, again, been a giant in the industry for 20 plus years now.

01:32:10.042 --> 01:32:11.484
Robert Kirkman's my Andy Reid.

01:32:11.484 --> 01:32:12.875
He's the coach on the side.

01:32:12.875 --> 01:32:14.164
know what I mean?

01:32:14.164 --> 01:32:15.215
He's lived through it all.

01:32:15.215 --> 01:32:16.685
He's helping Kelly.

01:32:17.101 --> 01:32:19.221
get to her further greatness.

01:32:19.282 --> 01:32:21.742
Like this is looking good for, I love this game.

01:32:21.742 --> 01:32:36.962
And I think that's why I was going to throw in, you know, a chosen editor because no matter how talented your squad is, and maybe this is the annoying big brother project manager in me, like you need someone to bring all that together.

01:32:36.962 --> 01:32:45.551
Keep like the project on the train tracks, you know, someone that has like a wider vision of like, you know, all the parts working together.

01:32:45.551 --> 01:32:56.324
So I think for Greg, And I think that's why his speaks to me because having Robert Kirkman on there just from an oversight site, you know, like, yeah, you could have him like lead the writing charge and be the face of it.

01:32:56.324 --> 01:32:59.605
But him just like, you know, playing like that coach role.

01:32:59.865 --> 01:33:00.576
Come on, man.

01:33:00.576 --> 01:33:01.496
That'd be undefeated.

01:33:01.496 --> 01:33:01.926
Yeah.

01:33:01.926 --> 01:33:03.256
Well, gentlemen, thank you so much.

01:33:03.256 --> 01:33:04.676
Again, this is always the most fun.

01:33:04.676 --> 01:33:07.137
This actually went a little longer than I thought it would, which I'm happy about it.

01:33:07.137 --> 01:33:11.769
We got a great conversation, bought a good call on shortening the time that we could actually talk about all this stuff.

01:33:11.769 --> 01:33:15.150
But I am extremely happy with the way this all came about.

01:33:15.150 --> 01:33:21.233
Anyone listening right now, if you have any suggestions on either format or what have you, please don't be shy.

01:33:21.233 --> 01:33:22.354
Let us know what your thoughts are.

01:33:22.354 --> 01:33:42.502
But before we get out of here, I'm going to hand the baton off to you gentlemen one more time, because I, I, I, I so much enjoy anytime that we get to hang out on either of our shows, but especially on my show, because these type of events require someone outside of you either Aaron or myself, we got to bring in the big guns.

01:33:42.502 --> 01:33:46.061
So I, I so appreciate both of you coming on to the free labor.

01:33:46.061 --> 01:33:46.341
Yeah.

01:33:46.341 --> 01:33:47.362
Free labor is great.

01:33:47.362 --> 01:33:47.731
Exactly.

01:33:47.731 --> 01:33:49.631
This is, I, I required you guys to be here.

01:33:49.631 --> 01:33:50.921
I was leaving the group chat.

01:33:50.921 --> 01:33:52.462
There would be two comic gents.

01:33:52.462 --> 01:33:57.242
That's the thing about hopping on another like podcasts, especially when like it's good.

01:33:57.242 --> 01:34:00.902
You're like, fuck, I wish we were recording for my show.

01:34:01.601 --> 01:34:02.902
God damn it.

01:34:02.902 --> 01:34:06.171
You're like, you're like, Damn, send me a copy of this.

01:34:06.171 --> 01:34:08.452
Well, Greg, I'm going to hand the baton off to you.

01:34:08.452 --> 01:34:13.984
Let the folks listening right now, again, if for some reason they've never heard of the first issue club, get people to run down.

01:34:13.984 --> 01:34:16.635
Why should people come check you out every Friday?

01:34:16.635 --> 01:34:17.015
Yep.

01:34:17.015 --> 01:34:18.216
First issue club.

01:34:18.216 --> 01:34:23.257
Every Friday we go down the hottest and best first issues of the week.

01:34:23.257 --> 01:34:28.210
We started it as a reading club for newer readers to get into the comp industry because it is kind of daunting.

01:34:28.210 --> 01:34:32.492
There's a lot of stories that are being told right now and a lot of things that you may not be aware of.

01:34:32.492 --> 01:34:36.917
And we're here to walk you through the current week's best selections.

01:34:36.917 --> 01:34:40.029
We're also here to talk about books that we've loved previously.

01:34:40.229 --> 01:34:55.166
Right now, the club is going through our list of top 100 best things about comic books, which we researched for five to six years and deliberated over many, hours of the top 100 things that are the best about comic books.

01:34:55.166 --> 01:35:03.230
And we're doing that through the holidays as like our evergreen episodes, because with the holidays, as you guys know, is Recording goes fucking sucks.

01:35:03.353 --> 01:35:05.144
There's always delays.

01:35:05.144 --> 01:35:05.845
As hard as hell.

01:35:05.845 --> 01:35:10.470
So like good little boys, we pre-recorded some stuff and that's the one we're looking forward to the most.

01:35:10.470 --> 01:35:16.744
But yeah, we just love talking with people over on our Discord about comic books, over on our Patreon.

01:35:16.824 --> 01:35:18.146
It's been a blast.

01:35:18.146 --> 01:35:23.021
And I always say this whenever we meet, meeting the two of you and befriending one another.

01:35:23.021 --> 01:35:25.474
mean, we talk every day.

01:35:25.474 --> 01:35:29.573
We have text chain and like we talk every I talk to you more than probably my brothers sometimes.

01:35:29.573 --> 01:35:36.027
It's just like I'm so thankful for this community and the ability to make an imprint in it.

01:35:36.027 --> 01:35:41.297
So if you want to come learn more about First Issue Club, come check us out.

01:35:41.297 --> 01:35:41.559
Yeah.

01:35:41.559 --> 01:35:42.918
And I don't I'm not just blowing smoke.

01:35:42.918 --> 01:35:45.439
I'm not just saying this because Greg is right in front of me.

01:35:45.439 --> 01:35:48.380
I've said this often both in private and to him physically.

01:35:48.380 --> 01:35:52.301
But the First Issue Club first podcast I listen to every Friday.

01:35:52.301 --> 01:35:53.122
Just absolutely.

01:35:53.122 --> 01:35:54.228
It's you know.

01:35:54.228 --> 01:35:57.418
If not my favorite, one of my favorite comic book podcasts out there.

01:35:57.418 --> 01:36:03.202
And speaking of my other favorite comic book podcasts about her, tell the people about the short box.

01:36:03.601 --> 01:36:04.072
All right.

01:36:04.072 --> 01:36:06.323
I'm going to get my accolades out the way.

01:36:06.323 --> 01:36:09.324
And then I want to go back to Greg and Chris real quick.

01:36:09.324 --> 01:36:17.578
But the short box podcast, man, like, Chris had said, I've been doing this for a long time because I love comic books and comic culture.

01:36:17.578 --> 01:36:21.869
mean, it brought me to these two amazing gentlemen, but the short box is the best way.

01:36:21.869 --> 01:36:26.975
to get your weekly dose of comic shop vibes without ever leaving the house.

01:36:26.975 --> 01:36:27.534
Okay.

01:36:27.534 --> 01:36:29.277
We drop episodes every Wednesday.

01:36:29.277 --> 01:36:35.462
We do news, reviews, and interviews about, you guessed it, comic books and comic culture.

01:36:35.582 --> 01:36:42.207
I've been on, I say this almost every year, but I think it's maybe a testament to me always trying to push the bar.

01:36:42.207 --> 01:36:48.314
But I feel like this year has been amazing in terms of interview opportunities in the episodes I've been putting out.

01:36:48.314 --> 01:36:49.024
So.

01:36:49.105 --> 01:36:50.076
Let me know if I'm crazy.

01:36:50.076 --> 01:36:53.396
Check out the short box wherever you get your comic podcasts.

01:36:53.396 --> 01:36:59.809
To go back to the first issue clip, the worst thing about that damn show is when they miss a Friday.

01:36:59.809 --> 01:37:00.179
Okay.

01:37:00.179 --> 01:37:02.909
When they miss a Friday, you feel it.

01:37:03.149 --> 01:37:06.371
yeah, same things can be said to you too.

01:37:06.371 --> 01:37:09.551
Greg, I can say this on a podcast.

01:37:09.551 --> 01:37:12.953
That one list of a hundred best things about comic books.

01:37:13.092 --> 01:37:15.993
And then on top of this too, I can say about the draft.

01:37:15.993 --> 01:37:19.163
It keeps me on my toes because I'm like, Damn it, that's a great idea.

01:37:19.163 --> 01:37:20.423
Why didn't I think about it?

01:37:20.423 --> 01:37:22.663
You've been doing this for 12 years, you lazy bum.

01:37:22.663 --> 01:37:23.894
Think better.

01:37:23.894 --> 01:37:24.953
So anyways, yeah.

01:37:24.953 --> 01:37:34.694
I think, don't hold me to this, but once the 100 is over, we might try to get some of you guys on the show to do like pre-100 or a couple of picks.

01:37:34.694 --> 01:37:34.953
so.

01:37:34.953 --> 01:37:35.394
That'd cool.

01:37:35.394 --> 01:37:38.354
I think it's just an expansive conversation that could be had.

01:37:38.354 --> 01:37:39.884
I'm excited Some of the ideas, yeah.

01:37:39.884 --> 01:37:42.713
I don't want to spoil it because I think people should absolutely go listen to it.

01:37:42.713 --> 01:37:50.873
But some of the things you guys have already mentioned at the first 25, you're like, If we're already getting this nuanced and know, nitty gritty, then I cannot wait for the rest.

01:37:50.873 --> 01:37:51.935
So kudos.

01:37:51.935 --> 01:37:54.405
What are the small, small parts of the comic world?

01:37:54.405 --> 01:37:55.606
they bring in this list?

01:37:55.606 --> 01:37:58.078
Like the smell or the staples?

01:37:58.078 --> 01:37:59.139
Yeah.

01:37:59.139 --> 01:38:02.131
As I said in our group chat, I will say it live here on the show.

01:38:02.131 --> 01:38:04.721
Everybody IDW best smelling books on the market.

01:38:04.721 --> 01:38:05.153
Okay.

01:38:05.153 --> 01:38:09.395
Go smell your, whatever IDW book you have on the shelf, go smell it right now.

01:38:09.715 --> 01:38:10.716
I say and buy that.

01:38:10.716 --> 01:38:14.699
But gentlemen, again, thank you so much for joining us here on the oblivion bar.

01:38:14.699 --> 01:38:16.110
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01:38:16.110 --> 01:38:19.632
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01:38:19.632 --> 01:38:26.796
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01:39:13.688 --> 01:39:17.161
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01:39:17.161 --> 01:39:19.984
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01:39:19.984 --> 01:39:22.981
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01:39:37.679 --> 01:39:41.717
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