MOVIE REVIEW: Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire & Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire (Part One)

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Greetings and salutations.

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This is Jordan Bloom.

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And Patton Oswalt.

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And we are the writers of Minor Threats over at Dark Horse Comics.

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And you are listening to the Oblivion Bar podcast.

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Welcome to the Oblivion Bar podcast with your host Chris Hacker and Aaron Knowles.

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Hello everyone, welcome to episode 151 of the Oblivion Bar podcast, the official podcast of the fantasy shop in St.

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Charles, Missouri.

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I'm your friendly neighborhood Titan veterinarian, Chris Hacker.

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And joining me this week is the man who isn't afraid to admit that Bustin' makes him feel good, my co -host and BFF, Aaron Knowles.

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Bustin' makes me feel good.

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I ain't afraid of no ghosts.

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Aaron, this week on the show we are doing a...

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You call it like the Empire's Strike Back, right?

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The double feature.

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I've been saying this for weeks and I thought it was one of the most wittiest things I've ever come up with.

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I think it is too.

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It's just, if I was to make the title of this episode any longer, people would not know what we're talking about.

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So I think that like the, the subtitle of this episode is movie reviews slash double feature, semi -colon, the Empire's Strike Back, Godzilla X -Kong, the new empire and Ghostbusters frozen empire.

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That's a long, that's a long fucking title.

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That's a long title.

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Okay.

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I don't know.

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Side quest.

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Okay.

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When you were younger, did they ever make you take like typing classes?

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Yeah.

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You got like how fast you can go?

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Yeah.

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Like words per minute, all this stuff.

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So we had this one, it was like Mavis beacon or Mavis beacon, however you say it.

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And it was like a haunted house.

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Okay.

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So they, it was like a complete ripoff of Casper.

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Sure.

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But you go in and you'd have to like type out the words and like, there was like haunted words like, Ooh, and then you type them out, but, but, but, but, but there was this little ghost that would like, give you the cues of what to type.

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And for some reason, core memory locked in there is this ghost would say, semi-colon.

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Like core memory is this ghost, semi-colon.

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And it's like, do you know when to use a semi -colon though?

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That's the, I still don't know to this day when to use a semi -colon.

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So to use a semi -colon, just nerd.

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Everyone, we're going to talk about Godzilla and Kong and we'll get there.

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But we need to learn about semi -colons really quick.

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Okay.

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Semi -colon is basically think of like, an additional clause to a sentence.

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You remember the movie, the Santa Claus?

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Yes.

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Like, hey, whoever puts on the suit becomes Santa Claus.

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And then there's like an additional, like there's like additional annexes.

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Basically anything that that adds to that sentence, like I am very hungry.

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So, Nicole, I could eat, you know, like like for you know, for tacos or like, you know, for tacos for that.

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Like, that's not that's not exactly 100 percent right.

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I could eat a TMI.

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Yes.

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There you go.

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It's like I am Godzilla and I'm very hungry.

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Semicolon.

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I should eat myself a TMI.

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Like with a with a with a comma, kind of the information is needed to conclude that sentence.

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But with a semi -context, it's yeah, exactly, exactly.

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So when you use the dash, everyone, sorry.

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But so I use a dash a lot.

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If like I have a sentence that I'm trying to complete, but I want to add a little like I want to finish that thought in a separate sentence.

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I use a dash.

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Is that am I using that correctly?

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That's not correct.

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That's not right.

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Well.

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You don't come to the oblivion bar for grammatical correction, although we did just give you the correct way to use semicolon.

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So today's show was brought to you by the semicolon.

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What was the little diploma from schoolhouse rocks?

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What was his name?

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Do you remember?

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I have no, you know, that was, I'd never watched schoolhouse rock.

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Okay.

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Ever.

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Ever.

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I feel like I missed out because everybody's like super obsessed with like, I'm just a bill.

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I'm just a bill.

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And like, I, I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

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Well, everyone, no worries.

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You're not going to be learning about political ramifications as a preteen or even semi -colon talk anymore.

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That's all over with.

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This week on the show, we're going to finally be talking about Godzilla Kong.

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Now, Aaron, it says Godzilla X Kong.

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X Kong.

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The X.

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We'll talk about this here in just a bit during the review, but that is not X.

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It's not multiplied.

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It is collab.

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Collab.

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It's a collab.

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It's a collab.

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The new Empire.

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Yeah, it's for the, it's for the Tik Tok.

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It's for the Godzilla Collabs King Kong.

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This ain't your daddy's Godzilla Kong.

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This is, this is for the youth of the nation.

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Big monkey fights, big lizard.

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That's right.

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And then we also have Ghostbusters Frozen Empire.

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So Aaron, this is a very Aaron centric episode.

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This is all me baby.

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This is all you.

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So I'm going to be looking to you to lead the pack and be our subject matter expert on all things monkeys, lizards and busting on ghosts.

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So got it.

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I'll bust all over these monkeys and lynxes.

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What?

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Well, a note before the news and notes.

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We have a panel at C2E2 with the first issue club and the short box.

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Aaron, we got another panel.

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So exciting.

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Panel.

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Was that a DJ horn that you were about to do?

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You want to do it?

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No, it's just me going panel, panel, panel.

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Do a DJ horn for me.

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There it is.

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Yeah.

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On Friday, April 26th at 11 15 a .m.

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So very cool.

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We'll be giving those out for free.

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That's right.

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And you can also visit the link in our show notes for more details on that panel.

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So enough of all that, Aaron, let's go ahead and get into our news and notes.

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Up first, we have Marvel cast Julia Gardner in the Fantastic Four as Aaron Drumroll, please.

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The Silver Surfer, my favorite character of all time.

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So obviously this is a big news for me, whether I am for it or against it.

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I guess we'll find out here in just a moment, but.

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Let's get a little background on Julia Gardner.

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Erin, are you familiar with the show Ozark over on Netflix?

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Is she the one that like she looks like she has like a perm?

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This is crazy.

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I don't know shit about fuck.

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Yep, that's her.

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That's her.

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That's her like famous thing on Ozark.

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She doesn't know shit about fuck.

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OK, OK.

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She was also in Inventing Anna.

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So, oh, yeah, she was really good in that one.

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Incredible actor.

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Like it's exciting surface level, but let's let's get through the fine details before we give our opinions on it.

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So she's obviously taking on the role of shallow ball, who is normally the love interest of the normal incarnation of the Silver Surfer, Noren Rad.

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Shalabal was created by Stan Lee and John Prishama in Silver Surfer Number One in May of 1968.

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Ball is the Empress of the planet Zen -La, a civilization of peace and enlightenment.

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Gardner joins Pedro Pascal as Reed Richards, Vanessa Kirby as Sue Storm, Joseph Quinn as Johnny Storm, and Iban Mas Bakrak as Ben Grimm.

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Fantastic Four will hit theaters on July 25th, 2025.

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Aaron, before I give my thoughts on this, I'd love to get kind of your temperature check.

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What is your...

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You know, your thoughts on Julia joining not only this cast, but the MCU as the Herald, the Herald, the Herald of Galactus.

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Yeah.

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So I mean, I have more of a question for you to be honest.

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Like, OK, so obviously, Norin Rad has been a male has been represented.

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The Herald of Galactus has been the Silver Surfer.

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How do you feel about Shalabal?

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Because is this is this like just a different like Earth or a different multiverse?

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There's a series called Earth X by Alex Ross.

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that I think she becomes a version of the silver surfer.

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But my understanding of Shalabal has always been when Galactus comes to Zen Law, basically, Noren makes a pact with Galactus says, Hey, listen, if you to basically to save Shalabal and his entire planet, I will become your herald.

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I will seek out planets for you to consume, to keep this galactic balance within the universe and everything.

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Right.

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Eventually, obviously, Noren bands with the Fantastic Four, fights off Galactus when he comes to Earth.

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Because he sees the the right in humanity all that to be said Shallow ball her her character arc from my understanding reading through like the Ron Lim stuff and a lot of the 90s stuff Of course the Stan Lee stuff and the Jack Kirby stuff my understanding of shallow ball is essentially she is like this anchor for Noren when he comes back to zen law and the rare times that he does he always comes back and he's always thinking like he's thinking Oh, I've done all this amazing stuff throughout the universe I've sacrificed so much to come back to zen law and a lot of times what he realizes that shallow ball is has like moved on.

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She's like, I'm good, man.

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I have, I've become the empress of this planet that you love.

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I don't really need you anymore.

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Like that's essential.

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That's what she's saying without saying it.

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What she's essentially telling Norton anytime she interacts with him in like modern day is that like we had this love, but we've, we've gone in different directions.

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Our priorities are much different now and she's a very independent person.

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I think this is a very interesting casting.

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I'll say, here's my lizard brain response.

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I was like, Damn it, that sucks.

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Like I really wanted Noren Rad.

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Like obviously, like I have literally, I have Noren Rad on my arm right now.

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I love that character.

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I love his arc.

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I love what he does.

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And I think if we're just gonna supplant Shalabal into that role and Noren Rad is kind of like maybe the emperor of Zen.

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Like they're just gonna literally gender swap it and make it Shalabal.

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I don't really see why.

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That's my thing is that like anything can be good.

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I think that Julia Gardner is incredible.

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She's an incredible actor.

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This could be very good.

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I just don't understand why they did it.

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And maybe we'll see it on the road.

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It's an odd choice.

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And that's why, like for me, I accept it.

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I'm not super happy with it, but it's not like world shattering for me.

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You know, I'm more excited to see the implications of what does this do to the actual story, to the universe, whatever, because obviously there's going to be some universe defining moments when it comes to why Shalabal is the Herald versus why Nornrad, because I grew up.

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with Nora Rad, but for me, it's not such a staple that I can't get over it.

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I'm more curious about when the time comes and this movie releases to see what you say.

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So I'm interested in that, but I am excited for this film.

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I am excited for, the more they do advertisements, the more they do, like they release like these, cause they, was it yesterday?

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They released all these cool like new posters and everything.

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And it looked like I love.

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I love the retro look, so I'm super excited because, you know, I don't know, that's just all exciting.

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But again, I'm, and then Pedro Pascal, daddy, daddy, daddy.

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We got Zaddy in this, we got Vanessa Kirby.

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The cast is incredible.

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I think, I hope everyone doesn't hear what I'm not saying when I say that, like, while I was like initially disappointed that it wasn't nor rad, again, any one thing can be good.

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And I think, I believe in Julia Gardner as an actor.

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I think she's going to be incredible in the role regardless.

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I just hope that this wasn't a change to be a change.

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Like I hope that there's a reason for it and they didn't just want to make a female silver surfer, you know, cause that feels also very disingenuous.

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Like of course, gender swapping, race swapping, all these things.

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If it makes sense for the story, let's do it.

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It's awesome.

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But I hope this wasn't just a switch to switch it up because silver surfer is not like a white, I really is a white dude.

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He's a white male, but like he's from Zin-La.

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He's this bald, like really weird looking species.

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It's not like a normal cis.

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Midwestern white male like me, you know, he's like, he's just like, I don't know.

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Anyway, my point is that like, I am still very excited for fantasy four.

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I'm excited that my favorite character is in the MCU finally, in some capacity.

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I just hope that this is like a, I hope they're honoring the character in the correct way as my only reservation.

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And it's a very small reservation, I should say.

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Like I'm still very excited.

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So Aaron, we need to take a little bit of time.

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I, you know, something incredibly tragic happened this past week.

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This is really our only other piece of news.

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We just want to cover it very quickly that comic creator Ed Pisker tragically passed away.

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He broke through.

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I want to give you a little back story on Ed Pisker because there is there's some controversy.

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Well, there's some there's some webs to weave.

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I'll say that like we have some things to kind of go over before we talk about what actually happened.

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Pisker broke into comics in his 2016 project Hip Hop Family Tree, which documented the early years of hip hop culture, portrayed iconic figures like DJ Cool, Herrick.

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Grandmaster flash and public enemy in 2018 and Aaron this is where I kind of got familiar with that Piskar Piskar took a similar all -encompassing Ensemble approach to Marvel superhero mythology with x -men grand design an attempt to synthesize the complicated history of mutants and the coheat and its cohesive narrative So if you know anything about the x -men their backs their their history The comics are all over the place time travel different kids like all the things.

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It's very convoluted.

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So Piskars goal was to basically condense all that and make it digestible for new comic book readers.

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He and fellow Pittsburgh cartoonist Jim Rugg also hosted a long running comic theme YouTube talk show Cartoonist KFab.

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Okay, so here's where it gets kind of rough.

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So on March 25th, a city paper article alleged Pisker of sending text messages to a young fan whom he befriended from a Facebook comic group.

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She was underage and described the situation as grooming inappropriate.

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Pisker then put this very long drawn out post on Facebook that Basically, I mean, some are kind of seeing it as a suicide note.

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The cause of death was not disclosed, but it can be assumed that this was a self induced situation based on a lengthy note.

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Like I said, on Facebook, Pisker was 41 years old.

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So no situation is too big for this kind of thing to happen.

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We should not let the voice of public opinion ever let something like this happen.

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Maybe Pisker did some very inappropriate things, but it wasn't worth losing his life.

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I'll say that for definitively.

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Right.

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Like if he was doing some groomy crap, that's not a good deal, man.

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That's not good.

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But it is not worth a very talented and otherwise loved person in the comic comic community.

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Like he should not be gone because of that is my thought.

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So what are your thoughts, Aaron?

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We live in a society right now where it's it's difficult for that to be for situations like this founded or unfounded to be dealt with, because we're very much in a day and age where.

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you're guilty until proven innocent.

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And so anybody these days, especially like with the Me Too movement and all this stuff, I understand, like I absolutely side on this, I'm with the victims, but I do think that we need to have a fairness to the way that we look at this to where we are allowing people with dignity respond and fix what they've done or the issues, because who knows?

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I mean, there's a lot.

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Nothing is just black and white.

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I understand like if it's wrong, it's wrong.

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Let it be found as wrong.

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Let it let the right people dig into it, investigate and be wrong.

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But we as a society need to stop destroying people from head to toe and top to bottom from back to front.

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Like their entire legacies.

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I've thought about like this before with other creators and things like that.

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And it's true.

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Like no matter what, we need to let people deal with these things with dignity.

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And that way a life is not.

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worth it.

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And also if they're guilty of doing such atrocities where it's like grooming or sexual assault, things like that, they need to face the consequences instead of Jake.

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I mean, in some cases, death might be the easy way out for them, or it seems like it's the only way out for them.

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We need to not allow that to happen.

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Yeah, he felt like his career was over essentially, and that this was his only way out.

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And that's really unfortunate.

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He says in his note that people were reaching out to his elderly parents.

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There were news.

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These news outlets were trying to get a hold of him constantly.

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He was losing work, like all these things.

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And, you know, like you said, we always sigh with the victim, of course, but like there have been instances where people have falsely accused folks of things like that has happened.

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Right.

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So like, this is just really sad.

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It's not worth losing a life, especially someone as talented and again, beloved as Piss her was in the comic community.

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And again, like you said, there are opportunities to grow.

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There are opportunities to look at it and go, Hey, I made a mistake.

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People make mistakes.

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And there are some things that are irredeemable, absolutely.

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But I think personally, this is my, and call me controversial, but this is not worth complete destruction of your life, your livelihood.

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And yes, again, like being alive, like that, none of that is worth it in my opinion.

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So I think if nothing else, this is a good time for us as the comic community to like listen and learn from this situation, right?

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Like this is not a good deal.

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There's no way to put it.

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As you can see, Aaron and I are fucking spinning our wheels, trying to figure out how to talk about this.

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But like, it's like you said before, it needed to be talked about and be, you know, it's, it's something that's, that is, that is important to the community.

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And you know, it's, you can't just avoid the hard stuff to talk about.

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So it's something, it's something to be commented on and discussed, but not overlooked and not be overly, overly opinionated upon.

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Like this is the time to learn.

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This is not a time to like, be like, Oh, he, he should throw him in the trash.

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Like people on the.

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fucking foul people on Twitter and otherwise saying that this is deserved in some way is disgusting.

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Yeah.

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Like I, I don't know if many cartoons could be like truly happy no matter what, just because it's like, it's not you, every page you have an opportunity to create the best comic page ever and you fail every time, but you're doing all right.

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You know, you, you, you, you, you're progressing, you're learning.

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There's a yin and yang to it.

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Like this, this is what makes mom proud.

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This right here is the money.

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Cause that's going to go on, you know, that'll be in my obituary, dude.

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I got to become a New York Times bestselling author.

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It's ridiculous.

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There must've been an off week in publishing that week.

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Let's move on.

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Let's get into our main topic, which again is covering Godzilla X -Kong, the new empire and Ghostbusters frozen empire, Aaron.

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But before we get there, Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.

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Absolutely, man.

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We often had to re -record or invest in backup recording alternatives to make sure our show was always top notch.

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But that's the thing of the past, right?

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Alrighty, let's get into our first review, Aaron, of our double feature, The Empire's Strike Back, right?

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That's right, that's like a running title.

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And the first one up is gonna be Godzilla X Kong, The New Empire.

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So, Aaron, initial thoughts on this fifth installment in the Monsterverse?

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I believe so.

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I think it's fifth, I think we talk about it later on in the review.

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I think it is the fifth installment.

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We got Godzilla, we got Godzilla, King of Monsters, we've got Kong, Skull Island, we've got Godzilla versus Kong, and then this, right?

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That's five.

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Initial thoughts.

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Yeah.

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Were thoughts.

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Yeah.

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I'm, I'm, I'm initially getting to them.

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I'm answering the question.

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Initial thoughts were, uh, cause I have to think back cause I saw it, you know, a few days ago, incredibly fun, incredibly fun.

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Like one of those ones that you just, you're just like, yes, yes, yes.

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You know, like while you're watching it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Same.

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I think for me, So I texted you right after I saw this, because I saw it at...

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You called me.

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Oh, yeah, that's right.

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I did call you.

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Yeah.

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And I was like, this is awesome.

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This is like totally my thing.

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Like, I loved every part of this because I think this is officially taking...

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Like, the Monsterverse has officially taken the place of the Fast and Furious franchise as just total brain candy, smooth brain entertainment.

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Yes.

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Whatever this is, like what they've completely dove into.

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Like, go back to Godzilla.

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It's very grounded, it's dark.

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It's kind of like you barely see Godzilla.

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And then you go to this, we've completely devoid, we've devoid it into absurdity.

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Like not - We don't even care about the humans anymore.

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No, not at all.

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Like we're destroying whole cities, landmarks, the Colosseum, the pyramids, the pyramid.

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Everything is getting destroyed at this point.

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The Colosseum is basically a giant doggy bed now.

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That's right.

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And I don't care.

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I love it.

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I love every part of it.

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I don't give a rat's ass.

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Like you get Godzilla.

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Sleeping like you said like in the Coliseum.

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I'm like in that adorable curled up like a little cat That's right little bumbly bumbly cat.

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It's funny you say that cuz we'll get into why that is here But I love I really love this Aaron like I don't think I can really Articulate how much I enjoyed myself.

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Is it stupid 100 %?

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It's very dumb everybody.

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This is not it.

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This is not a smart This is not highbrow entertainment.

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Okay?

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But if you're looking for a fun popcorn movie at the theater, I don't think you can get much better than this, to be honest.

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Like this is exactly what you want.

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This is Big Monk fights Big Liz and it fun.

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Times Orange Monk.

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We got Karate Monk.

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Yeah.

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Karate Monk.

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Karate Monk versus Power Glove Monk.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Plus Ice Dragon.

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Times mini Diddy Kong type of orangutan.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Diddy Kong and...

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Uh, we got pink Godzilla, pink Liz, pink Liz.

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That's right.

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Yeah.

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Cotton candy lizard.

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Cotton candy lizard.

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All right.

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Let's go and do a summary here.

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Why?

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I don't know, but let's do a summary for Godzilla Kong, the new empire with the agreement that the king of the monsters, Godzilla protects the service world and the almighty King Kong defends hollow earth.

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The two Titans must be grudgingly banned together to face an ancient threat hidden deep within the planet's core.

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Yep, like we said just a moment ago, the new Empire is the fifth installment in the Monsterverse franchise.

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If you don't include the Netflix animated series Skull Island and the live action Apple TV plus series Monarch Legacy of Monsters.

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Aaron, have you seen Skull Island?

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I have not seen Skull Island, but I did want to talk about the connection between Legacy of Monsters and this movie.

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Please, because I don't know.

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I have not seen Monarch.

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I know it has the two Wyatt's.

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They got the you got.

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or not Wyatt, the two Russells, excuse me.

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You've got Wyatt Russell and Kurt Russell, right?

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Yes.

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So the interesting thing about this, okay, is, and we're going to talk about it, but again, spoilers ahead, spoilers ahoy.

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Oh yeah, we didn't give a spoiler alert.

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Good job.

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We didn't give a spoiler alert.

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What you need to know right from the start of this movie, if you have not seen Legacy of Monsters, is that there are, like, think of the earth.

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We already know that there's layers.

00:27:02,733 --> 00:27:05,953
All right, think of it as an ogre parfait.

00:27:06,157 --> 00:27:06,698
Okay.

00:27:06,698 --> 00:27:20,557
There are so many fucking layers of the earth and we see this in new new empire because we now have a subterranean hollow, a subterranean realm of hollow earth.

00:27:20,557 --> 00:27:34,998
So like now they're just now they're just making up more shit, which I kind of love at the same time, because in, in legacy of monsters, there's even like a almost purgatory ish, like between the realms area.

00:27:34,998 --> 00:27:45,122
So now you have, the surface, you have this like between the realms, then you have hollow earth and now we have subterranean earth or subterranean hollow earth.

00:27:45,122 --> 00:27:48,541
So it's like, we're just going to keep adding shit to the earth.

00:27:48,541 --> 00:27:50,061
Like who knows how thick it gets.

00:27:50,061 --> 00:27:50,501
Yeah.

00:27:50,501 --> 00:27:51,442
But it's going to be there.

00:27:51,442 --> 00:27:53,922
And it's so it's, I think it's, it's really interesting.

00:27:53,922 --> 00:27:55,781
And so, so does Monarch cover all of that?

00:27:55,781 --> 00:27:58,961
Is that kind of the point of the show is to like go to the different realms?

00:27:59,241 --> 00:28:00,382
Yes and no.

00:28:00,382 --> 00:28:05,422
So in legacy of monsters, we find out that.

00:28:05,422 --> 00:28:06,362
Like God's.

00:28:06,362 --> 00:28:08,922
So we find out that the monsters can't.

00:28:08,922 --> 00:28:09,092
Okay.

00:28:09,092 --> 00:28:13,241
So humans cannot travel without the monsters through the portals.

00:28:13,241 --> 00:28:16,721
And I, I feel like that might be wrong.

00:28:16,902 --> 00:28:17,551
No, no, no.

00:28:17,551 --> 00:28:21,872
They did because in Godzilla versus Kong, they followed Kong through the portal.

00:28:21,872 --> 00:28:22,652
But yeah.

00:28:22,652 --> 00:28:31,461
So it's much like the same rules of Pacific Rim where they cannot get through the portal without like being close to in proximity of a monster.

00:28:31,461 --> 00:28:33,582
You need it like a Titan handshake, essentially.

00:28:33,582 --> 00:28:34,701
Basically.

00:28:34,701 --> 00:28:40,082
Now in King of the or Legacy of Monsters, it has like a time dilation aspect to it.

00:28:40,082 --> 00:28:45,781
So like somebody may be like stuck in that between realm and it's like being near a black hole.

00:28:45,781 --> 00:28:51,571
So time for them is very slow, but on Earth, like time passes like super or like goes by normal.

00:28:51,571 --> 00:28:51,971
Sure.

00:28:51,971 --> 00:28:55,321
So do Godzilla or Kong show up in Legacy of Monsters?

00:28:55,321 --> 00:28:55,951
Yes, they do.

00:28:55,951 --> 00:28:56,561
OK, yes.

00:28:56,561 --> 00:28:57,811
So yeah, quite a bit.

00:28:57,811 --> 00:28:59,942
So, oh, well, not no Kong.

00:28:59,942 --> 00:29:04,269
Godzilla is in there quite a bit because he's kind of like they're still trying to track him around on Earth.

00:29:04,269 --> 00:29:06,109
He also shows up in this nether realm.

00:29:06,109 --> 00:29:09,200
So Godzilla is apparently the Titans are just there.

00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,230
It's easier for them to access any of the realms that they want to go.

00:29:12,230 --> 00:29:17,849
Like they know how to get to each realm, whether it's the in between one or the subterranean, whatever.

00:29:17,849 --> 00:29:19,630
So I find this really interesting.

00:29:19,630 --> 00:29:23,990
And we have this whole new vehicle of like transport through the earth around the earth.

00:29:23,990 --> 00:29:25,049
It's really cool.

00:29:25,049 --> 00:29:25,900
Yeah.

00:29:25,900 --> 00:29:27,019
I knew you would like that.

00:29:27,019 --> 00:29:29,650
When you start talking about that, you were going to see that on an Apple TV.

00:29:29,650 --> 00:29:31,240
I was like, you're going to be my subject matter expert.

00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,226
Because I, as much as I love the Russells, I just haven't checked it out yet.

00:29:35,226 --> 00:29:36,945
I don't have Apple TV like most folks.

00:29:36,945 --> 00:29:38,306
So it's a pretty good show.

00:29:38,306 --> 00:29:46,086
And it's, and as we've talked about before, Apple TV is doing a lot of really good stuff because legacy of monsters is like gorgeous.

00:29:46,086 --> 00:29:47,715
Like it is cinema level.

00:29:47,715 --> 00:29:55,105
So if you have not seen it, I highly recommend going and checking out legacy of monsters because they do show a lot of the same maps.

00:29:55,105 --> 00:30:03,309
You can see where monarchs involvement and their mapping of this kind of realm is playing a part in there.

00:30:03,309 --> 00:30:08,009
But obviously this new empire, it takes it to a whole new level.

00:30:08,009 --> 00:30:09,299
Yeah, it's obviously not necessary.

00:30:09,299 --> 00:30:13,140
Everyone listening right now, for some of you who haven't seen Monarch, you don't necessarily have to watch the TV show.

00:30:13,140 --> 00:30:15,849
It's more of just like more back matter essentially.

00:30:15,849 --> 00:30:24,710
But speaking of the show, I started winning comic book writer, Matt Fraction, who, Aaron, you know, wrote the Hawkeye series with David A -ha and then Sex Criminals with Chip Zdarsky.

00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:30,349
He was the co -showrunner of Monarch alongside Chris Black, who also wrote episodes of Xena, The Princess Warrior.

00:30:30,349 --> 00:30:34,250
Desperate Housewives and Severance over on again, Apple TV Plus.

00:30:34,250 --> 00:30:39,609
Before releasing Takahashi, whoa, I'm gonna really need your help here, Aaron.

00:30:39,609 --> 00:30:42,200
Takahashi Yagasuki?

00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,200
Yamazaki?

00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:43,670
Yamazaki.

00:30:43,670 --> 00:30:44,609
Very close.

00:30:44,690 --> 00:30:47,990
The writer and director of the acclaimed Godzilla Minus One.

00:30:48,009 --> 00:30:51,210
Aaron and I, didn't we give that our surprise hit of the year last year?

00:30:51,210 --> 00:30:51,549
Yep, yep.

00:30:51,549 --> 00:30:53,104
For the last call?

00:30:53,134 --> 00:30:58,923
Did PR for this film by watching it early and promoting it on social media stating, I was able to watch it on the big screen early.

00:30:58,923 --> 00:31:00,124
It is super fun and gorgeous.

00:31:00,124 --> 00:31:02,554
Be sure to watch it on the big screen.

00:31:02,594 --> 00:31:08,874
And Aaron, as we talked about a moment ago in an interview with CBR, director Adam Wingard revealed that the X in the movie title is silent.

00:31:08,874 --> 00:31:10,294
Both stands for collaboration.

00:31:10,294 --> 00:31:13,153
It's a common practice for brands and businesses to collaborate with artists.

00:31:13,153 --> 00:31:16,054
Again, this is not your daddy's Godzilla X-Kong.

00:31:16,054 --> 00:31:18,173
It is now just Godzilla Kong.

00:31:18,173 --> 00:31:19,913
So, Aaron, get into the budget here.

00:31:19,913 --> 00:31:22,359
Well, believe it or not.

00:31:23,150 --> 00:31:24,869
It's pretty big.

00:31:25,109 --> 00:31:28,220
Much like Godzilla's penis.

00:31:28,220 --> 00:31:30,150
That's what she said.

00:31:30,150 --> 00:31:31,128
That's what she said.

00:31:31,128 --> 00:31:34,549
Budget was one hundred and thirty five million dollars.

00:31:34,549 --> 00:31:38,549
But this is the cheapest monster verse entry to date.

00:31:38,549 --> 00:31:38,799
Yeah.

00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:39,480
One thirty five.

00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,829
That's really cheap.

00:31:40,829 --> 00:31:45,049
I mean, think about like a lot of the MCU films for some reason we keep continuing to use as our benchmark.

00:31:45,049 --> 00:31:46,869
A lot of their films are two hundred million dollars.

00:31:46,869 --> 00:31:50,869
I think wasn't it Dune was one fifty.

00:31:50,869 --> 00:31:52,269
So this is cheaper than Dune.

00:31:52,269 --> 00:31:56,170
And from my eyes, I love to hear your thoughts on this, Aaron looked pretty good.

00:31:56,170 --> 00:31:59,769
Like there are some shots that look kind of CGI, like very CGI heavy.

00:31:59,769 --> 00:32:09,789
But in terms of the monsters fighting and the way the monsters look, just like the emoting of the monsters and the like the destruction of the cities and all the things for my eyes, it looked really good.

00:32:09,789 --> 00:32:18,369
I mean, I'm not looking for like realistic human like, you know, that definitely because because because none of the humans were like CGI.

00:32:18,369 --> 00:32:21,710
I don't feel like it, at least not that I can look in this.

00:32:21,710 --> 00:32:30,259
There were a few interesting shots of the young like, um, ee wee princess that were like, uh, but you, but she's so small.

00:32:30,259 --> 00:32:31,549
You can't really tell.

00:32:31,549 --> 00:32:32,640
Uh, but that's what we're looking at.

00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,269
We're looking at the monsters here and the monsters looked awesome.

00:32:36,349 --> 00:32:36,650
Absolutely.

00:32:36,650 --> 00:32:39,539
It was, I mean, who gives a shit on it?

00:32:39,539 --> 00:32:41,309
It was, they looked great.

00:32:41,309 --> 00:32:44,950
There's a certain level of just like glaze that you have to watch these movies with, right?

00:32:44,950 --> 00:32:48,109
Like you just have to understand that this is going to be extremely CGI heavy.

00:32:48,109 --> 00:32:49,773
I thought the opening scene.

00:32:49,773 --> 00:32:55,023
Like there's there's some shots where it's like a close up on Kong and you don't like get a good look at his scale.

00:32:55,023 --> 00:33:00,554
Like you don't realize how big he is actually in Hollow Earth because everything is so huge.

00:33:00,554 --> 00:33:03,554
But I thought some of those shots looked kind of iffy.

00:33:03,554 --> 00:33:16,897
But I think once we got past that and I think very specifically when Kong has his toothache and you've got Dan Stevens as Trapper goes down and gives him like a carbon fiber tooth like a canine sharp tooth.

00:33:16,942 --> 00:33:19,741
That looks definitely my my favorite fucking character.

00:33:19,741 --> 00:33:19,951
Yeah.

00:33:19,951 --> 00:33:20,321
Yeah.

00:33:20,321 --> 00:33:22,011
We'll talk about Dan Stevens here in just a moment.

00:33:22,011 --> 00:33:23,761
He's an incredible addition to this film.

00:33:23,761 --> 00:33:36,862
So the box office as of April 4th, the new empire has grossed ninety four point six million domestically and in Canada and one hundred and fifteen point one million other territories for a worldwide total of two hundred nine point seven million.

00:33:36,862 --> 00:33:42,241
So this is already the sixth highest grossing movie worldwide in twenty twenty four just from its opening weekend.

00:33:42,241 --> 00:33:44,481
So yeah, pretty incredible.

00:33:44,481 --> 00:33:46,642
I'm a little mad, though, because.

00:33:46,701 --> 00:33:58,842
I obviously we went like opening week weekend and my movie theater didn't have any of the cool shit like any of the cups or the markets, the merchandise, nothing.

00:33:58,842 --> 00:34:03,201
I went to AMC and they had the scar king cup.

00:34:03,201 --> 00:34:06,192
Like basically it's like a like a hollow earth looking cup.

00:34:06,192 --> 00:34:08,802
And then on top you have scar king sitting on the straw.

00:34:08,802 --> 00:34:10,521
So that's kind of what that what that was.

00:34:10,521 --> 00:34:14,637
So a day being at 80 million dollars in his opening weekend, the new empire topped the box office.

00:34:14,637 --> 00:34:18,117
in its first two weeks becoming the second best opening weekend of the Monsterverse.

00:34:18,117 --> 00:34:21,498
It is also the fifth best Easter weekend entry of all time.

00:34:21,498 --> 00:34:27,137
So really, this is like a kind of a crazy surprise hit, you know, I think that we're going to talk about.

00:34:27,137 --> 00:34:42,958
I want to just go and bring it up now, Aaron, is that between the two movies that we're talking about this week with the New Empire and Frozen Empire, these are both legacy sequels that came out in 2021 originally with Afterlife and with Godzilla versus Kong that during Covid were both.

00:34:42,958 --> 00:34:49,318
pretty big hits, honestly, like pretty, I would say like huge hits, but pretty moderate to like better than average.

00:34:49,318 --> 00:34:49,418
Yeah.

00:34:49,418 --> 00:34:51,967
Like they, they brought people to the theater, right?

00:34:51,967 --> 00:34:52,398
So yeah.

00:34:52,398 --> 00:34:58,057
What's interesting about that is that they both kind of came around the same time and they're both doing extremely well in the box office right now.

00:34:58,057 --> 00:35:00,987
So shout out to Sony and Warner Brothers for figuring it out.

00:35:00,987 --> 00:35:09,538
I mean, I would say as two of the studios that are often shooting themselves in their own foot more times than not, it seems like they made a good decision with both these films.

00:35:09,538 --> 00:35:11,885
I find it super interesting.

00:35:11,885 --> 00:35:13,635
the timing of the release.

00:35:13,635 --> 00:35:15,726
Yeah, like a week within each other.

00:35:15,726 --> 00:35:27,106
Well, no, I guess that, but also the fact that these are generally like summer hit films and this is such an early release window for both of these films.

00:35:27,844 --> 00:35:39,646
I would be curious if I could ever get in a room with any of the like the individuals who are in charge, like the release date for these, like I would want to know why release them now versus like a summertime hit.

00:35:39,646 --> 00:35:40,557
Obviously.

00:35:40,557 --> 00:35:44,898
They probably have some bigger, you know, movies coming out this summer.

00:35:44,898 --> 00:35:49,958
But this just seems like like a crazy early time frame.

00:35:49,958 --> 00:35:50,057
Yeah.

00:35:50,057 --> 00:35:53,827
And I think it might have something to do with the movies that are coming out in the summer.

00:35:53,827 --> 00:35:57,237
Obviously, you've got more than likely this summer is going to be extremely packed.

00:35:57,237 --> 00:35:58,318
You've got the fall guy.

00:35:58,318 --> 00:35:59,597
I'm going to just name off a couple here.

00:35:59,597 --> 00:36:01,057
You've got the fall guy.

00:36:01,057 --> 00:36:03,038
You've got Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes.

00:36:03,038 --> 00:36:05,407
You've got Tarot, which is those horror films.

00:36:05,407 --> 00:36:09,134
You know, Aaron always do well, like the low budget horror films always kill it.

00:36:09,134 --> 00:36:13,653
You've got If, the movie with the John Krasinski film starring Ryan Reynolds.

00:36:13,653 --> 00:36:18,074
Speaking of Ryan Reynolds, you have Deadpool, obviously Deadpool versus Wolverine, or Deadpool and Wolverine.

00:36:18,074 --> 00:36:20,023
Furiosa, the Garfield movie.

00:36:20,023 --> 00:36:22,043
The Crow is another one that's coming out this summer.

00:36:22,043 --> 00:36:26,673
Inside Out 2, like our summer is going to be extremely jam -packed.

00:36:26,673 --> 00:36:29,893
Oh, Bike Riders with Austin Butler and Tom Hardy.

00:36:29,893 --> 00:36:32,653
Also A Quiet Place Day 1 is coming out this summer.

00:36:32,653 --> 00:36:34,286
Like, I'm just, like, there's a ton of...

00:36:34,286 --> 00:36:39,306
Twisters like there's so many movies coming out this summer that like I think they just wanted to get ahead of it, right?

00:36:39,306 --> 00:36:40,916
Oh, an Alien Romulus is coming out in August.

00:36:40,916 --> 00:36:42,065
God, there's so many.

00:36:42,065 --> 00:36:43,505
OK, well, I mean, that makes sense.

00:36:43,505 --> 00:36:50,324
And like I said, I was just purely curious because these seem these are big budget films.

00:36:50,324 --> 00:36:54,856
But I think that's obviously looking at it kind of like early big budget.

00:36:54,856 --> 00:37:01,425
Like these are like maybe our our version of big budget is is different than the current version of big budget.

00:37:01,425 --> 00:37:02,925
And we'll see.

00:37:02,925 --> 00:37:04,126
We'll see what happens.

00:37:04,126 --> 00:37:08,715
So I thought it was a chump change, you know, you were going to save room for the$200 million ones, right?

00:37:08,715 --> 00:37:12,646
I mean, when, when minus one F was 50 million, 50 million, something like that.

00:37:12,646 --> 00:37:12,846
Yeah.

00:37:12,846 --> 00:37:13,306
50 million.

00:37:13,306 --> 00:37:13,666
Yeah.

00:37:13,666 --> 00:37:16,206
Like fuck it, man.

00:37:16,206 --> 00:37:25,385
Um, we'll talk about it during the next review of frozen empire, but frozen empire was actually initially supposed to come out in November of last year, but it got pushed because of the sack after drive strikes.

00:37:25,385 --> 00:37:26,505
So that's why it's interesting.

00:37:26,505 --> 00:37:31,326
Like you said, very interesting that both these are coming out at the same exact time, but it works.

00:37:31,505 --> 00:37:32,398
And they struck back.

00:37:32,398 --> 00:37:33,577
That's right.

00:37:33,577 --> 00:37:38,358
The empires, they struck back as they as they tend to as as history has shown.

00:37:38,358 --> 00:37:38,748
Yes.

00:37:38,748 --> 00:37:50,577
So we got director Adam Wingard, who, as you know, directed Blair Witch in 2016 Death Note 2017, which and then got Godzilla versus Kong in 2021.

00:37:50,577 --> 00:37:52,938
Did you see the 2016 Blair Witch?

00:37:52,938 --> 00:37:54,038
I have not.

00:37:54,038 --> 00:37:54,277
No.

00:37:54,277 --> 00:37:55,318
And I have not seen Death Note.

00:37:55,318 --> 00:37:58,318
You seem you gave a raspberry indicating you did not like it.

00:37:58,318 --> 00:38:02,126
It was so if you could if you could Americanize.

00:38:02,126 --> 00:38:03,445
One of the best animes.

00:38:03,445 --> 00:38:04,695
Oh, wait, we do that all the time.

00:38:04,695 --> 00:38:05,106
Yes.

00:38:05,106 --> 00:38:06,556
Oh, wait, that's something we do often.

00:38:06,556 --> 00:38:07,865
Something we do often.

00:38:07,865 --> 00:38:08,306
Yeah.

00:38:08,306 --> 00:38:10,726
This as you can tell, it was fucking horrible.

00:38:10,726 --> 00:38:11,025
Yeah.

00:38:11,025 --> 00:38:11,445
It was.

00:38:11,445 --> 00:38:13,786
I mean, it's no.

00:38:13,786 --> 00:38:18,335
And I don't remember the Blair Witch being very highly reviewed.

00:38:18,335 --> 00:38:19,846
Like, I don't think people loved it, to be honest.

00:38:19,846 --> 00:38:24,766
So it seems like while I will say and this is coming from someone who really enjoyed this film.

00:38:24,766 --> 00:38:27,846
Again, this is not thought provoking cinema.

00:38:27,846 --> 00:38:28,146
Right.

00:38:28,146 --> 00:38:30,766
This is like smooth brain.

00:38:30,766 --> 00:38:32,706
monkey punches lizard.

00:38:32,985 --> 00:38:34,246
So it's and it's good.

00:38:34,246 --> 00:38:38,746
Like I'm not I'm not like I'm not trying to sound reductive, but like Adam Wingard, it seems like he's found his niche.

00:38:38,746 --> 00:38:42,396
Like, yes, both with Godzilla versus Kong, which I found to be extremely fun.

00:38:42,396 --> 00:38:44,565
Like I honestly think this is better.

00:38:44,565 --> 00:38:47,255
Godzilla Kong, the new empire is better than Godzilla versus Kong.

00:38:47,255 --> 00:38:49,545
But I really enjoyed Godzilla versus Kong.

00:38:49,545 --> 00:38:50,255
Yeah, I did, too.

00:38:50,255 --> 00:38:51,956
And I think you're right.

00:38:51,956 --> 00:38:54,242
I think he's found his his.

00:38:54,445 --> 00:38:56,746
I think he's found where he belongs.

00:38:56,746 --> 00:38:56,945
Yeah.

00:38:56,945 --> 00:39:03,545
Speaking of, well, so good friend of the show, David Buhr, comic writer, who's been, you know, he's wrote, he wrote TMI over in the Monsterverse comics.

00:39:03,545 --> 00:39:05,945
He also is currently writing the Ghostbusters books.

00:39:05,945 --> 00:39:07,606
Funny that we bring him up right now.

00:39:07,606 --> 00:39:09,005
It could be Kismet, right?

00:39:09,005 --> 00:39:15,505
But he once told us on the show that the dumbest things have the biggest audiences.

00:39:15,505 --> 00:39:21,230
So like, yeah, even if it's a bad thing, like even if it's like low brow entertainment, people will find enjoyment from it.

00:39:21,230 --> 00:39:22,960
Like reality television is a good example of that.

00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,619
Like some people just need to turn their brain off sometimes.

00:39:24,619 --> 00:39:26,150
Yeah, like Jackass.

00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:26,670
Exactly.

00:39:26,670 --> 00:39:28,630
Bow now now.

00:39:28,630 --> 00:39:30,969
I'm Johnny Knoxville and this is Jackass.

00:39:30,969 --> 00:39:34,030
I'm Godzilla and welcome to welcome to Jackass.

00:39:34,030 --> 00:39:36,150
Welcome to big monk punched me in the face.

00:39:36,150 --> 00:39:38,269
All right, so run.

00:39:38,269 --> 00:39:40,329
OK, Aaron, remember this number for me.

00:39:40,329 --> 00:39:41,869
Just keep everyone listening right now.

00:39:41,869 --> 00:39:45,139
Remember this number runtime one hour and 55 minutes.

00:39:45,139 --> 00:39:46,349
Just keep that in mind.

00:39:46,349 --> 00:39:47,219
Let's move on.

00:39:47,219 --> 00:39:48,077
I already know why.

00:39:48,077 --> 00:39:48,907
You already know what?

00:39:48,907 --> 00:39:49,307
OK, perfect.

00:39:49,307 --> 00:39:49,967
Don't say it yet.

00:39:49,967 --> 00:39:51,577
We'll get to it eventually.

00:39:51,878 --> 00:39:53,797
Clipping her cast.

00:39:53,797 --> 00:39:55,038
Aaron, let's go over the cast really quick.

00:39:55,038 --> 00:39:55,288
All right.

00:39:55,288 --> 00:39:55,978
Small one.

00:39:55,978 --> 00:39:56,338
Yeah.

00:39:56,338 --> 00:39:57,427
Rebecca Hall is Dr.

00:39:57,427 --> 00:39:59,097
Eileen Andrews.

00:39:59,097 --> 00:40:01,958
Brian Tyree Henry as Bernie Hayes.

00:40:01,958 --> 00:40:03,557
Dan Stevens is Trapper.

00:40:03,557 --> 00:40:05,797
Kaylee Hoddle as Gia.

00:40:05,797 --> 00:40:09,378
Alex Ferns is Mikhail Rachel House as Hampton.

00:40:09,378 --> 00:40:10,137
Who cares?

00:40:10,137 --> 00:40:11,177
None of that matters.

00:40:11,177 --> 00:40:11,998
Doesn't matter.

00:40:11,998 --> 00:40:14,445
Only one worth noting truly is like.

00:40:14,445 --> 00:40:15,596
kind of Brian Tyree Henry.

00:40:15,596 --> 00:40:16,146
I like him.

00:40:16,146 --> 00:40:16,846
He's a podcaster.

00:40:16,846 --> 00:40:24,965
So obviously we have, we are contractually obligated for the, for the, you know, the medium, the medium that we love, the one that we're currently talking on, we got to talk about Brian Tyree Henry.

00:40:24,965 --> 00:40:28,246
Uh, and then also Trapper, who is like the best part of this movie.

00:40:28,246 --> 00:40:29,346
He is hilarious.

00:40:29,346 --> 00:40:32,885
He's just charisma, just dripping off of him in every scene.

00:40:32,885 --> 00:40:34,766
He is a Titan veterinarian.

00:40:34,766 --> 00:40:36,876
That is the coolest job ever.

00:40:36,876 --> 00:40:39,766
Who also maybe kissed Rebecca Hall at some point.

00:40:39,766 --> 00:40:43,150
Like they definitely kind of talked about a little bit briefly.

00:40:43,150 --> 00:40:46,460
Definitely bumped uglies, but let's talk about the true stars of this movie Aaron.

00:40:46,460 --> 00:40:48,179
Why don't you go over the actual the tight?

00:40:48,179 --> 00:40:52,969
Yes of this film I hope you had some epic sound effects of this cuz I'm so pumped.

00:40:52,969 --> 00:41:11,545
Okay, you got God so starring Titans in Godzilla collaboration Godzilla King of the Monsters King Kong or just Kong.

00:41:21,422 --> 00:41:24,461
Do they call him King Kong once in any of these movies?

00:41:24,461 --> 00:41:25,762
I think they just call him Kong.

00:41:25,762 --> 00:41:27,702
Maybe that's a rights thing or something.

00:41:27,742 --> 00:41:28,101
Yeah.

00:41:28,101 --> 00:41:33,922
You got Mothra, Titanus, Mosura, or Queen of the Monsters.

00:41:40,014 --> 00:41:41,554
Did you know that she was Queen of the Monsters?

00:41:41,554 --> 00:41:46,034
Yeah, I did not know that that literally as I was doing research for this up for this review.

00:41:46,034 --> 00:41:46,864
That's when I found that out.

00:41:46,864 --> 00:41:47,603
That was really cool.

00:41:47,603 --> 00:41:56,273
I find it to be one of the weirdest things because like there's this weird, weird relationship between between Godzilla and Mothra.

00:41:56,373 --> 00:41:58,954
And it's just like it's it's not symbiotic.

00:41:58,954 --> 00:42:01,873
It's not essential.

00:42:01,873 --> 00:42:02,753
Is it sexual?

00:42:02,753 --> 00:42:03,793
It's not sexual.

00:42:03,793 --> 00:42:06,233
It's just like maybe.

00:42:06,233 --> 00:42:08,893
But like, like, like, it's just interesting.

00:42:08,893 --> 00:42:26,190
But like, The other thing is I saw several interesting advertisements by the studio and like some other like places where people were, they were like, I felt like they were using like weird AI images because there was like King Kong being carried by, by Mothra.

00:42:26,190 --> 00:42:30,170
And then there was one where it was like, it basically became King Kong merged with Mothra.

00:42:30,170 --> 00:42:33,170
It was like King Kong with like butterfly arm wings.

00:42:33,170 --> 00:42:34,369
It was like the weirdest thing.

00:42:34,369 --> 00:42:35,010
Mothra Kong.

00:42:35,010 --> 00:42:36,110
Mothra Kong.

00:42:36,110 --> 00:42:36,889
Yeah.

00:42:36,889 --> 00:42:38,157
King Kothra.

00:42:38,157 --> 00:42:42,768
But it was just like, what if Godzilla, Kong and Mothra mixed together?

00:42:42,768 --> 00:42:44,637
What would that be?

00:42:44,637 --> 00:42:49,318
God, God, Kong, Mothra, God, God, Ratha, Khan, Khan, Ratha, there you go.

00:42:49,318 --> 00:42:49,838
There it is.

00:42:49,838 --> 00:42:58,217
It's just like an interesting, like, so the Godzilla Mothra relationship is just an interesting thing because she's always been there to kind of like assist and aid Godzilla.

00:42:58,217 --> 00:43:02,117
But like as like, like, you know, you ever like a summon, you ever play like RPG?

00:43:02,117 --> 00:43:02,438
Yeah, yeah.

00:43:02,438 --> 00:43:04,057
Like she's a white mage.

00:43:04,057 --> 00:43:05,518
Yeah, I summon.

00:43:05,518 --> 00:43:11,307
Mathra, you know, so you got then you got Scar King, who's basically he's an orangutan.

00:43:11,307 --> 00:43:12,637
Yeah, essentially.

00:43:12,637 --> 00:43:16,478
He carries like this bone, like spine whip.

00:43:16,478 --> 00:43:24,777
I feel like they had it was like a missed opportunity to make that like to give like some backstory of that being like a Godzilla type creature.

00:43:24,777 --> 00:43:25,197
Oh, sure.

00:43:25,197 --> 00:43:25,617
Yeah.

00:43:25,617 --> 00:43:27,657
That's where the spines come from.

00:43:27,797 --> 00:43:27,927
Yeah.

00:43:27,927 --> 00:43:28,737
Yeah.

00:43:28,737 --> 00:43:33,217
Because his parents are killed in the beginning of do they show the death of his parents in one of the films?

00:43:33,217 --> 00:43:35,181
Is it Godzilla versus Kong?

00:43:35,181 --> 00:43:36,811
Or is it Kong's go?

00:43:36,811 --> 00:43:39,521
I think it's, I think it's, I think it's Godzilla versus Kong.

00:43:39,521 --> 00:43:39,722
Yeah.

00:43:39,722 --> 00:43:40,342
Yeah.

00:43:40,342 --> 00:43:52,302
Um, then you got, uh, he carries a S the one of the Shimo like spikes that's on the tip of, which is weird because I don't know why that allows him to control Shimo.

00:43:52,302 --> 00:43:53,061
Maybe it's like Bluetooth.

00:43:53,061 --> 00:43:56,501
Like if you have one spike, you control the entire system.

00:43:56,501 --> 00:44:03,726
Yeah, maybe Shimo is an ice dragon, basically like an H they, they were, they described Shimo as an ancient tight.

00:44:03,726 --> 00:44:18,065
Which I hope we get more on that but an ice dragon being manipulated by scar king and and and Shima was basically the the bringer of the first ice age and then you have suco essentially Diddy Kong who's like like what's called Diddy Kong?

00:44:18,065 --> 00:44:28,666
He just looks like he he is obviously a small ape But he has like red fur because I believe he's like a scar king type like like hybrid Well, we talked about that fun facts Aaron.

00:44:28,666 --> 00:44:29,405
We'll get to it.

00:44:29,405 --> 00:44:34,512
Yeah, although not mentioned in the film the as we just said suco is the name is never revealed.

00:44:34,512 --> 00:44:35,871
It's revealed actually in the toys.

00:44:35,871 --> 00:44:44,021
So it carries a significant meaning as when written phonetically in Japanese, it can be broken down into two characters that ultimately mean essential child.

00:44:44,041 --> 00:44:50,641
Interestingly, Suko is typically a female name in Japanese and perhaps coincidentally is a Filipino word for surrender.

00:44:50,641 --> 00:44:52,242
So I thought that was pretty interesting.

00:44:52,242 --> 00:44:56,681
And again, we don't get the word, the name Suko is just again in the toys.

00:44:56,681 --> 00:44:58,893
So director Adam Wingard elaborated on Scar King.

00:44:58,893 --> 00:45:03,494
He's sort of an anti -Kong with motivations grounded in human desires for power and control.

00:45:03,494 --> 00:45:09,034
Despite being non -human, Skar King's actions resonate with human themes of domination and ambition.

00:45:09,034 --> 00:45:14,934
Explaining the reasons behind this, Wingard said, his motivations are very grounded in human motivations like power and control, as he said.

00:45:14,934 --> 00:45:19,833
He is the type of super dictator living in Hollow Earth, which we see very clearly.

00:45:19,833 --> 00:45:24,893
He's got folks working hard labor, not getting any rest.

00:45:24,893 --> 00:45:26,373
He's got his little...

00:45:26,541 --> 00:45:36,222
entourage who are pushing people around who are essentially and I found this really interesting in the film when Kong and Suko go down to like Scar Kings layer, I guess you'll call it.

00:45:36,222 --> 00:45:39,402
A lot of the apes are essentially the same size as King Kong.

00:45:39,402 --> 00:45:42,702
I thought it would be interesting to show like how much bigger King Kong is than everybody.

00:45:42,702 --> 00:45:44,262
But he looked a bit bigger.

00:45:44,262 --> 00:45:47,762
I mean, he's like a writer, but they're like the same like eye level.

00:45:47,762 --> 00:45:48,481
Yeah.

00:45:48,481 --> 00:45:49,842
Yeah.

00:45:49,842 --> 00:45:50,342
Anyway.

00:45:50,342 --> 00:45:55,630
And then as you said here, Shima was the Japanese word for frost or gray hair is believed that.

00:45:55,630 --> 00:45:58,869
She is the main cause of King Ghidorah's freezing in Antarctica.

00:45:58,869 --> 00:46:02,730
I think that's in some of the comics that they talked about that.

00:46:02,730 --> 00:46:02,920
Okay.

00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:03,409
Yeah.

00:46:03,409 --> 00:46:09,809
There is, yes, there is a prologue, a tie in the way.

00:46:09,809 --> 00:46:10,530
Yeah.

00:46:10,530 --> 00:46:11,789
That I've been meaning to read.

00:46:11,789 --> 00:46:15,110
Let's talk about some times get murked in this film, Aaron, because there are a couple, right?

00:46:15,110 --> 00:46:22,400
And I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on this because you are obviously a much bigger Kaiju, Toho, Godzilla fan, right?

00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:30,561
So some of these characters are big characters and you know, in the in the mythos of the not only the monster verse, but just like this universe.

00:46:30,561 --> 00:46:31,762
So go into that.

00:46:31,822 --> 00:46:35,652
But Silla basically the crab that's attacking.

00:46:35,652 --> 00:46:36,862
I want to say like Rome.

00:46:36,862 --> 00:46:39,952
I always when I when you do the little things, I always think of crabby from Pokemon.

00:46:39,952 --> 00:46:41,422
Oh, yeah.

00:46:41,422 --> 00:46:43,641
I killed.

00:46:43,641 --> 00:46:43,842
Yeah.

00:46:43,842 --> 00:46:45,561
Killed by Godzilla in Rome.

00:46:45,561 --> 00:46:48,081
Just completely just decimated Rome.

00:46:48,081 --> 00:46:48,702
Yeah.

00:46:48,702 --> 00:46:49,882
Yeah.

00:46:49,882 --> 00:46:53,481
I mean, so yeah, these Silla and Tiamat.

00:46:54,318 --> 00:47:04,277
Tiamat is the one that's living in the Arctic Circle that's gathering energy from the magnetic spectrum of Earth.

00:47:04,978 --> 00:47:18,358
And both, to be honest, I don't know a lot about those lore, because those are, I mean, I'm more of like, I like the ones that are in the movies, like Gigaura and some of those like stupider ones, King Gigaura.

00:47:18,358 --> 00:47:20,750
They were both killed relatively easily.

00:47:20,750 --> 00:47:21,130
Right.

00:47:21,130 --> 00:47:21,690
Very easy.

00:47:21,690 --> 00:47:22,550
Like especially Tiamat.

00:47:22,550 --> 00:47:25,030
I thought Tiamat was going to be at least a little bit of a challenge for Godzilla.

00:47:25,030 --> 00:47:28,610
But then we just see like the head of Tiamat float to the top.

00:47:28,610 --> 00:47:29,090
Right.

00:47:29,090 --> 00:47:29,440
Yeah.

00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,809
Like those laser.

00:47:32,809 --> 00:47:34,329
And he's just like, it just comes up like sushi.

00:47:34,329 --> 00:47:36,869
I thought it was OK.

00:47:36,869 --> 00:47:49,829
So yes, I always wish that there was a little bit more, because if you ever go back and watch the original Godzilla films, there is always like every battle is the focus of the film.

00:47:49,829 --> 00:47:50,637
Every battle.

00:47:50,637 --> 00:47:58,197
not just like the main battles, whereas this one, we all knew that Godzilla was like, get to the fucking point.

00:47:58,197 --> 00:48:06,157
There are multiple times in this film where this giant monster is presented in front of Kong or Godzilla and then it cuts away.

00:48:06,157 --> 00:48:10,858
And then the next scene is just the head of whatever monster they were fighting flying across the screen.

00:48:10,858 --> 00:48:14,387
And like, they just killed him off screen, which is kind of disappointing, but it makes sense.

00:48:14,387 --> 00:48:16,014
Like you got budgets and.

00:48:16,014 --> 00:48:18,244
You got to save it for that final gravity fight at the end.

00:48:18,244 --> 00:48:18,793
I get it.

00:48:18,793 --> 00:48:18,974
Exactly.

00:48:18,974 --> 00:48:20,023
They're teasing you.

00:48:20,023 --> 00:48:25,083
They want you to like want these big battles and see like we like they gave us exactly what we wanted.

00:48:25,083 --> 00:48:29,653
We want to see fights where Godzilla just fucking tears them apart.

00:48:29,653 --> 00:48:35,713
Like like again, like Scylla and Tiamat, but Scylla Scylla was one of the best fights because I'm just watching this this fight.

00:48:35,713 --> 00:48:42,222
And all of a sudden he just like opens his mouth and like holds the the the choppers and just goes and like just.

00:48:42,222 --> 00:48:45,291
fucking like laser blasts like, you know, I love that, right?

00:48:45,291 --> 00:48:52,842
Like that's one of my favorite Godzilla things is him just taking someone's dome, opening it up as far as they can go and just atomic breathing right into us.

00:48:52,842 --> 00:48:56,641
And so they knew that they gave us exactly what we wanted.

00:48:56,641 --> 00:48:57,501
Yeah, exactly.

00:48:57,501 --> 00:48:57,882
Yep.

00:48:57,882 --> 00:49:00,722
Let's before we get into our fun facts, I want to just kind of talk about the finale.

00:49:00,722 --> 00:49:07,902
So at the end of the film, we get the, you know, the final battle, we get the power up from Godzilla with the Tiamat pink energy.

00:49:07,902 --> 00:49:12,014
You get Godzilla getting his power glove after a fight with Skar King earlier in the film.

00:49:12,014 --> 00:49:19,773
you get the interaction between those two because Godzilla is like trying to tell him like, bro, that he'd help.

00:49:19,773 --> 00:49:22,373
He was like, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

00:49:22,373 --> 00:49:24,304
Like, come on, come on, come on, come on, no.

00:49:24,304 --> 00:49:27,594
It's like Tony and Agent Voltron.

00:49:29,485 --> 00:49:31,385
sleep, go to sleep, go to sleep.

00:49:31,905 --> 00:49:32,666
Yes.

00:49:32,666 --> 00:49:36,545
So the only thing that I wanted, there was that where, where Godzilla is like running.

00:49:36,545 --> 00:49:39,166
He's like, he just runs up to Godzilla.

00:49:39,166 --> 00:49:46,275
I wanted him to do like a spear kick and just like, just fucking like, uh, like right into Godzilla.

00:49:46,275 --> 00:49:49,666
I didn't, I mean, the King Kong didn't get that, but I, okay.

00:49:49,666 --> 00:49:58,349
I want to talk about the relationship between like trapper and Godzilla and the fact that he is just like this Godzilla fan.

00:49:58,349 --> 00:50:01,929
And you could tell he's a fan because he creates like this gear for him.

00:50:01,929 --> 00:50:02,420
Yeah.

00:50:02,420 --> 00:50:05,010
You mean he's King King Kong for King Kong.

00:50:05,010 --> 00:50:05,250
Sorry.

00:50:05,250 --> 00:50:05,590
Yeah.

00:50:05,590 --> 00:50:13,380
Like I like this needs to be a game and like you need to have Trapper like he is your like Armory guy.

00:50:13,380 --> 00:50:15,829
You know, and that's exactly what he is.

00:50:15,829 --> 00:50:16,639
And it's so cool.

00:50:16,639 --> 00:50:24,489
Like I can't wait to see like I hope I hope when the next movies come out, Trapper is just like Godzilla Armory.

00:50:24,489 --> 00:50:28,677
And like it's it's almost like Neon Genesis where it's just like, OK, hey, we got something new for you.

00:50:29,262 --> 00:50:31,362
It's like this fucking spear comes up or something.

00:50:31,362 --> 00:50:32,711
So excited for that.

00:50:32,711 --> 00:50:40,382
They talk about the film, how like the government they were creating these different pieces of technology to amplify and help the Titans defend the earth.

00:50:40,382 --> 00:50:44,262
And it was like defunded by by the government, by Monarch.

00:50:44,322 --> 00:50:46,961
And Trapper's like, but we kept working on it.

00:50:46,961 --> 00:50:49,021
We kept doing it like we're like, yeah, yeah.

00:50:49,021 --> 00:50:50,161
I kept going.

00:50:50,521 --> 00:50:52,342
What were your thoughts on?

00:50:52,342 --> 00:50:56,782
So again, we get that interaction in Cairo, get the destruction of the pyramids.

00:50:56,782 --> 00:51:00,942
Mothra comes in with her feminine energy is like, bro, let's fucking chill out for a moment.

00:51:00,942 --> 00:51:02,882
Let's let's band together.

00:51:05,541 --> 00:51:09,882
That's all she had to say.

00:51:09,882 --> 00:51:11,681
No notes, Mothra.

00:51:11,681 --> 00:51:12,222
No notes.

00:51:12,222 --> 00:51:12,802
You said it.

00:51:12,802 --> 00:51:24,557
Yeah, we get that scene from the trailer where you've got Godzilla and Kong running, which if I can be honest, if I have one true knock, they kind of both come in the finale in the third act.

00:51:24,557 --> 00:51:27,277
A, I don't like the way that Godzilla runs in this series.

00:51:27,277 --> 00:51:29,487
I think he moves too quick.

00:51:29,487 --> 00:51:31,137
Or she, is it she in this universe?

00:51:31,137 --> 00:51:32,597
I think it's a she.

00:51:32,717 --> 00:51:34,177
No, it's a he.

00:51:34,177 --> 00:51:35,318
King of the monsters.

00:51:35,318 --> 00:51:35,878
I know.

00:51:35,878 --> 00:51:38,097
I was confused by that, but I thought I remember her.

00:51:38,097 --> 00:51:39,938
Maybe it's the, oh, it's the 98 version as a she.

00:51:39,938 --> 00:51:40,998
Yeah, the Matthew Broderick.

00:51:40,998 --> 00:51:41,478
Yes.

00:51:41,478 --> 00:51:41,998
Yeah.

00:51:41,998 --> 00:51:44,757
So Godzilla shouldn't be able to move like that.

00:51:44,757 --> 00:51:45,827
He's huge.

00:51:45,827 --> 00:51:48,141
Like, I guess so is King Kong, but like Kong is a...

00:51:48,141 --> 00:51:49,001
an ape, right?

00:51:49,001 --> 00:51:50,431
So like, I don't know, what are your thoughts?

00:51:50,431 --> 00:51:56,001
You're again, you're more of the Godzilla fan, but I just I find that so jarring when you have Godzilla running at like full speed.

00:51:56,001 --> 00:52:00,942
I thought like I feel like it's like when necessary, you know, like he like like he has the capability.

00:52:00,942 --> 00:52:03,121
He doesn't need to because you don't.

00:52:03,121 --> 00:52:03,961
But he's not.

00:52:03,961 --> 00:52:06,481
I mean, even in the old school ones, like he still has.

00:52:06,481 --> 00:52:08,911
It's not like he's just like two small little stumpy legs.

00:52:08,911 --> 00:52:14,061
He's like when like the Toho like in Godzilla minus one, for instance, he moves extremely slow.

00:52:14,061 --> 00:52:15,896
Like he's like, boom.

00:52:16,365 --> 00:52:19,965
Boom, like each foot, no, no, yeah.

00:52:20,005 --> 00:52:23,306
No one foot can move at the same time in that movie, right?

00:52:23,306 --> 00:52:25,965
But yeah, in this one, it's just full on CGI madness.

00:52:25,965 --> 00:52:26,945
He also powered up.

00:52:26,945 --> 00:52:30,246
I'm just saying he also changed while he powered up.

00:52:30,246 --> 00:52:32,505
So he, he, you gotta, you gotta remember that.

00:52:32,505 --> 00:52:32,905
Yeah.

00:52:32,905 --> 00:52:33,226
Yeah.

00:52:33,226 --> 00:52:36,786
His entire, his body changed, his bone density went up.

00:52:36,786 --> 00:52:41,965
They think that some of the graphics said bone density, skin density, all that stuff went up by at least 20%.

00:52:41,965 --> 00:52:44,255
He was so strong and so powered up.

00:52:44,255 --> 00:52:45,838
He had so much energy in him.

00:52:45,838 --> 00:52:50,818
that he's literally boiling the fucking ocean, which was so bad ass.

00:52:50,858 --> 00:52:54,478
Like the eyes, the eyes went like, like smokey.

00:52:54,478 --> 00:52:55,818
You got the smokey eye.

00:52:55,818 --> 00:52:57,237
I'm like, yes.

00:52:57,237 --> 00:52:57,608
Yes.

00:52:57,608 --> 00:52:58,418
Queen.

00:52:58,418 --> 00:52:58,838
Yes.

00:52:58,838 --> 00:52:59,938
Queen.

00:53:00,177 --> 00:53:03,577
Are we getting before I get my question, I have another one here.

00:53:03,577 --> 00:53:07,338
Are we getting like, are we getting like incredibly high power creep for Godzilla?

00:53:07,338 --> 00:53:08,677
Like King Kong can obviously be hurt.

00:53:08,677 --> 00:53:13,338
We see it in the film, but Godzilla is essentially an indestructible at this point with the energy.

00:53:13,338 --> 00:53:13,657
Okay.

00:53:13,657 --> 00:53:15,597
So the one of the coolest things.

00:53:15,597 --> 00:53:16,068
Well, okay.

00:53:16,068 --> 00:53:22,737
So we saw in minus one when they blew up the mines in his mouth, we saw his incredible healing factor.

00:53:22,737 --> 00:53:27,177
Now we know when he's powered up, obviously his healing factor gets exponentially greater.

00:53:27,177 --> 00:53:39,217
But the cool thing was if you watched, uh, you know, legacy of monsters, he gets hit front and center with a fucking nuclear bomb and he's fine.

00:53:39,217 --> 00:53:39,958
He eats it.

00:53:39,958 --> 00:53:41,318
He just eats it.

00:53:41,318 --> 00:53:47,641
So he's, we know that he's, he's, Nye like Nye indestructible, you know, sir.

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So I mean, I feel like we're going to see more stuff in the future.

00:53:50,802 --> 00:54:03,802
However, I will say this and I don't know if we brought this up anywhere in the notes, but I did read a recent article topic or I didn't read the actual article, but the topic was that they are hinting at the death of Godzilla.

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I mean, I was going to say, so that seems to be the natural progression of this series because it seems like the last two films, Godzilla versus Kong and.

00:54:11,021 --> 00:54:13,831
New Empire are both very Kong centric, right?

00:54:13,831 --> 00:54:18,782
Like Godzilla is kind of almost like an afterthought or maybe just like a side character in these films.

00:54:18,782 --> 00:54:21,472
We need, I think we need more Godzilla maybe in the next one.

00:54:21,472 --> 00:54:27,442
Or maybe have like a villain that is up to par with Godzilla, maybe from space.

00:54:27,442 --> 00:54:30,141
Cause these are, they already killed everyone from Earth.

00:54:30,141 --> 00:54:30,422
Yes.

00:54:30,422 --> 00:54:38,541
Natural progression of the series generally is like the next one will be, there is some kind of extraterrestrial threat.

00:54:38,541 --> 00:54:43,157
Now Ghidorah, which the three -headed, like, Hydra-looking creature.

00:54:43,157 --> 00:54:49,998
Lore has it that they said he came from the moon, but basically he is an extraterrestrial creature.

00:54:49,998 --> 00:54:56,918
And I think in the old school films, the aliens actually come back, resurrect Ghidorah to become King Ghidorah.

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Then you also have a Mechaghidorah.

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So it just gets nuts.

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Let's get nuts! Let's get nuts.

00:55:02,097 --> 00:55:04,498
Before we get into our fun facts, I had, sorry, I have one more question.

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What were your thoughts on that final fight?

00:55:05,677 --> 00:55:06,637
The gravity?

00:55:06,637 --> 00:55:09,077
the fight in Rio de Janeiro, all of that.

00:55:09,077 --> 00:55:10,168
Like, was that all cool for you?

00:55:10,168 --> 00:55:10,998
Or you having a good time?

00:55:10,998 --> 00:55:12,858
Yeah, I had a really good time with it.

00:55:12,858 --> 00:55:20,137
I would say that the aspect of like using the gravity effect against them was really cool.

00:55:20,137 --> 00:55:29,918
Once they get out of the, you know, because I just, I know, I think they did such a good job, even though I really, I'm not a big fan of the Skar King.

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I'm glad he's dead.

00:55:32,177 --> 00:55:33,237
Yes, I hope he dies.

00:55:33,237 --> 00:55:34,117
I hope he burns in hell.

00:55:34,117 --> 00:55:35,498
I hope he burns in hell.

00:55:35,498 --> 00:55:36,590
I'm glad.

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that they gave him that like moment where he like, when he comes out of the portal and he, when he sees like humanity and he sees the surface and he like looks up and he's like blinded by the sun.

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That was such like a fruitful moment.

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I'm glad they added it in there because yes, he, that's a very, he is a very human Titan.

00:55:58,139 --> 00:56:03,460
But I also thought it was like the whole fight was pretty cool because it gave you exactly what you wanted.

00:56:03,460 --> 00:56:08,297
You knew that at some point, They were going to get that crystal away from Scar King.

00:56:08,297 --> 00:56:09,668
You knew at some point it was going to get destroyed.

00:56:09,668 --> 00:56:20,137
You knew at some point Shima was going to go after Scar King himself and it turned and it all wrapped up super well, especially with like King Kong almost like treating Shima like his new pet.

00:56:20,137 --> 00:56:21,496
It's like a dog back down.

00:56:21,496 --> 00:56:22,117
Yeah.

00:56:22,117 --> 00:56:24,668
It was, I, I, I really enjoyed all of it.

00:56:24,668 --> 00:56:27,007
I really enjoyed how it kind of all wrapped together.

00:56:27,007 --> 00:56:27,818
You're absolutely right.

00:56:27,818 --> 00:56:31,405
The finale, I think again, the fight was just.

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pure insanity.

00:56:32,456 --> 00:56:36,536
I actually, I didn't say this earlier, but I saw it at the IMAX downtown at the museum.

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So it was the biggest screen that I could possibly see it on.

00:56:38,786 --> 00:56:40,525
And that was very purposeful, of course.

00:56:40,525 --> 00:56:45,275
But the finale, the battle, it's all just very, there's no time to breathe.

00:56:45,275 --> 00:56:49,405
It's just very, just wall to wall brain candy action the entire time.

00:56:49,405 --> 00:56:54,085
And then the finale, you've got Godzilla going back into the Colosseum and going taking a nap.

00:56:54,085 --> 00:57:00,077
And you've got King Kong taking over that new realm with both Shimu and Suku.

00:57:00,077 --> 00:57:01,358
He's got friends now.

00:57:01,358 --> 00:57:03,398
That's what he always wanted right and family and friends.

00:57:03,398 --> 00:57:10,268
Yeah, I love it I love that he gets what he needs you guys power glove back He got his his axe back like King Kong's living good right now, right?

00:57:10,268 --> 00:57:13,338
So and of course like we don't really care but the human characters are all good.

00:57:13,338 --> 00:57:21,398
You've got GS like oh no, Rebecca Hall I love you and sign language and all the things but we don't care about that because that doesn't matter They're there just for exposition.

00:57:21,398 --> 00:57:23,137
So let's get into our fun facts.

00:57:23,137 --> 00:57:23,327
Aaron.

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Why don't you go and take a couple here?