MOVIE REVIEW: Renfield

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,040 Hey, I'm Jake. 2 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:02,080 And I'm Jesus. 3 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,480 And we are the hosts of Spec Tales. 4 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,040 And you're listening to the Oblivion Bar podcast. 5 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:35,200 Welcome to the Oblivion Bar podcast with your hosts, Chris Hacker and Aaron Knowles. 6 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:35,920 Hello, everyone. 7 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,880 Welcome to episode 115 of the Oblivion Bar podcast, the official podcast of the Fantasy 8 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,720 Shop in St. Charles, Missouri. 9 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:43,520 I am Chris Hacker. 10 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:44,480 I'm one of your co-hosts here. 11 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:48,640 And joining me this week is my BFF and familiar Aaron Knowles. 12 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:53,280 You know, when something crazy happens and someone's like, it's OK, I've seen way worse. 13 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,480 Everything I saw today is going to be my way worse. 14 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,280 You know, it's funny is that is from OK, everybody. 15 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:02,720 We're talking about Renfield today. 16 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:03,600 That's from Aquafina. 17 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,280 And I think if I remember correctly, we talked about Shang-Chi, you have a very particular 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,200 view on Aquafina. 19 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,560 You're not really a giant fan. 20 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:11,040 Is that correct? 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,280 Or my did I is that like Mandela effect? 22 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,760 Did I just like assume that I think you're just assuming that. 23 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,120 But it's also kind of true. 24 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,840 I was going to say I'm almost positive. 25 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,840 I've heard you say at some point in our friendship, you don't really like you can't 26 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,520 stand Aquafina for some reason. 27 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,000 But actually, I kind of get it after seeing this. 28 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,520 Like, I kind of get it a little bit. 29 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,440 We'll get into that here in just a bit, everybody. 30 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:34,560 Welcome to the Aquafina Bar Podcast. 31 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:35,920 He fucking hates you. 32 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:36,880 And I kind of get it. 33 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:40,640 Oh, man. 34 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,320 Like we said, we are talking about Renfield. 35 00:01:42,320 --> 00:01:46,480 This is a movie that talking about our most anticipated films of 2023. 36 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,240 This is a film that we were, I would say, pretty excited about, but one that we're 37 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,200 probably not going to cover here on the show. 38 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,320 We were just going to see it individually and just talk about it within our personal 39 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,240 lives, maybe on the grid or something. 40 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:03,040 But schedules made it to where we were like, you know what, let's cut this one for us. 41 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,280 You know, sometimes you got to do one for the boys. 42 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,120 And Renfield is that for us. 43 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:07,920 We wanted to cover this. 44 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,120 Do it for your balls. 45 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:11,200 I don't know what. 46 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:11,440 What? 47 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:11,920 I don't know. 48 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:12,320 I don't know. 49 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:13,840 Welcome to the Oblivion Bar Podcast. 50 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:15,600 We're on Patreon. 51 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:16,560 Yeah. 52 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:16,960 Yeah. 53 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,000 You want to talk about your balls? 54 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,000 Go to patreon.com forward slash Oblivion Bar Podcast. 55 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,240 That's where you can hear about our balls is on the grid, which if you don't know, 56 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:24,800 now you know. 57 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:26,720 We save all of our ball talk. 58 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:27,280 Yes. 59 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,120 Yes. I got a funny story. 60 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,560 Can I tell you a funny story real quick? 61 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:31,760 Go ahead. 62 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:32,240 Okay. 63 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,640 So one time, this is, you know, if you don't know already, if you're new to the show, 64 00:02:36,640 --> 00:02:39,760 even if you're not new, you know that Chris and I were both in the army. 65 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:40,480 Okay. 66 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,120 And things are a little bit different in the army. 67 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:44,320 Okay. 68 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,960 You can talk about it when I was in compared. 69 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,760 You mean just like in general or from when I was in both. 70 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:51,760 Got it. 71 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:52,960 Different, different worlds. 72 00:02:52,960 --> 00:03:02,320 So during my second deployment, which was, I want to say 2006, 2005, no, 2006, like 2007. 73 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,000 Anyways, so I'm in Iraq. 74 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,760 We're in the motor pool, which is where we stage all of our vehicles, all of our trucks, 75 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,320 because Chris and I were both 88 mics, right? 76 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:10,880 No, no, no. 77 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:11,440 You were a golf. 78 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,040 No, I was a 92 Fox. 79 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:13,600 But a Fox. 80 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:14,240 Yeah, he was a fuel. 81 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,320 So we both dealt with the same thing. 82 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:17,360 They're essentially the same thing. 83 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,840 Um, you got to drive the truck with the gas on the back of it. 84 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,040 He's a fucking idiot, Mike. 85 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:21,840 So don't let him fool you. 86 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,200 I'm an 88 Mike that gives out gas. 87 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:23,440 Yes. 88 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:23,760 Sometimes. 89 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:24,240 Yes. 90 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,680 So we're in the motor pool and I just remember, I don't know how the discussion, 91 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,320 I can't tell you anything surrounding this conversation. 92 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,800 I just remember describing my balls as dog balls because they hang down very low. 93 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:39,120 And it was just a funny conversation that I was having with some people in the, 94 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:40,560 in the motor pool. 95 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,280 And you know that you can like, that's army for you. 96 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:43,840 Armily. 97 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:44,320 Right, Chris? 98 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,880 You can talk about almost whatever the fuck you want. 99 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,800 And like people don't really care. 100 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:49,680 The filter is gone. 101 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,680 The filter is gone because you literally. 102 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:52,640 You suck. 103 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,800 Everything sucks and you suck together. 104 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,360 And so you embrace the suck as they call you embrace the suck. 105 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,960 And so you just kind of get down to that nitty gritty of life and you can just talk about 106 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,080 anything anyways. 107 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,040 So I'm just in there talking to him like, oh yeah, I got like dog balls because they 108 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:10,800 hang down so low and out of nowhere from like around the corner, like my platoon sergeant, 109 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,120 who's like our main supervisor, he goes, what the fuck are you talking about? 110 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,640 You can't be saying shit like that. 111 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,480 So basically I ended up doing pushups for the entire rest of that day. 112 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,640 I don't know why I'm talking about this, but anyways, join us on patreon.com forward slash 113 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,280 oblivion bar pot where you can hear more talk like that. 114 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:28,240 You want more ball talk? 115 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,360 Go to the oblivion. 116 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:30,480 I get where I was going with that. 117 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,000 There's on the grid. 118 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,040 There's no filter. 119 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:33,680 It's that's right. 120 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,240 It's formula free. 121 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,600 That's just a little taste, a little teaser of all teaser. 122 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:40,100 Okay. 123 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,200 So patreon.com forward slash oblivion bar. 124 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,040 God, we're going to lose so many viewers over that story. 125 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:45,920 They've already turned it off. 126 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,360 They've already turned the episode off. 127 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:48,320 I'm so sorry. 128 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00:05:26,320 Like you'll hear later on, which I do. 141 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:31,200 And I love doing, um, once again, patreon.com forward slash oblivion bar pod. 142 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,560 Check us out again. 143 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,080 Everything that we get through Patreon goes back into the show to make the show even better. 144 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:40,480 And we appreciate your support, honestly, like no, all jokes aside, we very much appreciate 145 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,400 everybody's support that we've gotten so far. 146 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,160 And it meets the world of us. 147 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,080 It means, you know, it just, it really helps us make this show better. 148 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,400 And it really is from go back and listen. 149 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,560 That don't don't go back and listen to episode one, uh, but just know that it's better. 150 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:55,040 Okay. 151 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:55,840 Yeah, absolutely. 152 00:05:55,840 --> 00:06:00,000 It has gotten definitely much better since episode one, both of the oblivion bar and of 153 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,680 the grid, both we've gotten significantly, we've streamlined this stuff. 154 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:08,160 So, uh, without it, without further ado, and hopefully no more ball talk, let's go 155 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,440 ahead and get into our using notes. 156 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,480 News and notes. 157 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:16,720 All righty. 158 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:21,280 Our news and notes this week is sponsored by what not what not to buy or sell comics, 159 00:06:21,280 --> 00:06:23,680 Funko pops, trading cards, or even shoes. 160 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:24,960 What not has you covered? 161 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:29,360 You can download what not any iOS or Android device, and please use our referral link in 162 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,080 our show notes to get $15 upon signup. 163 00:06:32,080 --> 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first things I ever learned when I learned to speak German was, uh, they 178 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,280 have like a TV show, like a children's TV show. 179 00:07:03,280 --> 00:07:06,800 So anybody knows the easiest way to learn a language is to watch like a children's TV 180 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:07,040 show. 181 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,360 And so they had this musical like show. 182 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:14,080 I don't know what it's called cause I'm fucking German, but, um, it was the song and it was 183 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,840 talking, it was about this soccer. 184 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:20,480 This is this, uh, cow that lost his soccer shoe. 185 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,760 He can only find one of them and he was a rather small cow. 186 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,600 So, uh, decline a coup has I didn't foosball shoe. 187 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:29,200 Okay. 188 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,360 And the song declined a coup, declined a coup has I didn't, I didn't foosball shoe. 189 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:34,320 That's how you remember that? 190 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:34,960 Yeah. 191 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:35,520 Okay. 192 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,360 Everyone at home listening right now, Aaron is going to keep trying his absolute best 193 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,840 to just divert every single conversation we have into another topic. 194 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:44,960 So just bear with us. 195 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,760 I will be your, I'll be your huckleberry. 196 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,520 I will keep us on track, but Aaron will keep giving us small lessons in German and 197 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,440 ball talk throughout the show. 198 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,480 And I can tell that Chris is being passive aggressive right now. 199 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:58,880 Is it coming through the show? 200 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,520 Can people hear that on the other, please let us know. 201 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:02,800 Oblivion bar podcast. 202 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,320 I don't think you know how that is. 203 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:07,360 No, I love it. 204 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:08,160 It's so hurtful. 205 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,400 Your past is very genuine. 206 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,200 I love, I love the ball talk and I love learning German. 207 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,600 You're so sarcastic and it's hurtful. 208 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,520 Is the sarcasm not helping the passive aggressive? 209 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:18,320 It's not. 210 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:18,720 It's not. 211 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:19,200 Okay. 212 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:24,080 Let's get into, we'll talk more about our toxic relationship later on during our regular 213 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,360 review, but before that, let's go ahead and talk about new comic publishers because 214 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,000 Go to the comic book couples counseling show and have them help us. 215 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:32,880 Brad, Lisa help. 216 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:40,080 We have a brand new comic publisher distillery which shoots to innovate in the way that comics 217 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,240 in the way that comic publishers treat comic creators and the readers. 218 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,560 So the team behind Comixology Originals, David Sternberger and Chip Mosher are back as 219 00:08:48,560 --> 00:08:50,960 co-founders of a brand new comic publisher distillery. 220 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,440 The lineup of creators or quote unquote founders of this new publisher are absolutely stacked. 221 00:08:55,440 --> 00:09:00,800 Comic giants like James Tinian the fourth, Scott Snyder, Becky Klumman, Jock, Rom V, 222 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:05,600 Brian Azzarello, Joelle Jones, good friend of the show, Elsa Chardier, Stephanie Phillips, 223 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,280 and Erin, one of your favorites, Mirka and Dolph are all some of the creators involved with this. 224 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,880 So you've probably saw this on social media over the last week. 225 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,320 All of these creators posted this. 226 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,480 It was all very ambiguous initially, but after looking it up and seeing what was actually 227 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:23,600 going on, distillery is essentially offering equity in the company and readers, a marketplace 228 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:28,160 for digital collectibles, a build as kind of like a stub hub of comics. 229 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,320 The creators will own all their IP and successful careers will even share in the equity of the 230 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:38,720 company via like a third, I guess like 3% pull set aside for other purposes and whatnot. 231 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:43,040 According to the New York Times launch article, distillery will launch officially at San Diego 232 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,360 Comic-Con 2023 with the Devil's Cut, which is an anthology featuring basically all of those 233 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,280 founding creators that we were just talking about. 234 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,440 So on their website here also Erin, it says creators will have their own work in a piece 235 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,040 of distillery within itself. 236 00:09:55,040 --> 00:10:00,400 So they will bring it premium oversized limited edition, single issues, premium limited edition 237 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,720 merch, physical and digital. 238 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:07,760 And it says here you buy, you own, you can sell any of this stuff also on the aftermarket. 239 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,360 I think they're kind of hoping for that. 240 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,200 Creators get a cut every single time. 241 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,520 There's no NFT hustle or crypto hassle. 242 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,600 So Erin, we talked about this a little bit before the show here, kind of discussing what 243 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:22,720 this is because, you know, there's already a company in the comic world that gives creators 244 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,000 100% of their creations. 245 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,280 It's called Image Comics. 246 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:30,080 A lot of people, a lot of comic fans and people within the medium have said that the next 247 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,240 era of comics, because right now we're currently in what's called the modern age of comics. 248 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,440 Yeah, Silver Age, Bronze Age, Silver Age, Modern. 249 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,720 Some people have said the next stage will be the image era, which is basically creators 250 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,240 finally getting control of their own IP. 251 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,640 That seems to be the idea behind distillery. 252 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,320 But, and we kind of divulged this a little bit, like I said, before the show, we think 253 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:57,360 distillery is trying to add a type of Mondo spin to this, which is, you know, they'll 254 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,160 say Scott Snyder has a brand new series out. 255 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,760 It's him and Elsa Chardier. 256 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:07,680 It's a four issue mini series on Friday at noon Eastern time. 257 00:11:07,680 --> 00:11:09,920 We're going to release the single issues. 258 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:14,640 We're going to release three variants, 50 of one variant, 25 of one and 10 of another 259 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,200 plus t-shirts, pens, whatever other kind of merch they have. 260 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:18,640 Go get it. 261 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,760 And it'll be for an affordable price, but you have to be clicking the same way you do 262 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,120 when you buy like a Mondo poster. 263 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:24,640 So interesting idea. 264 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:29,280 What are your thoughts here with distillery and kind of again, a Mondo type of business 265 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:30,880 model in the comic world? 266 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:36,080 I think that this is a great invention, a great idea to throw into the community. 267 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,400 As long as it continues to be tangible. 268 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,400 One thing I'm just never a fan of is that are things like NFTs. 269 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:42,900 Okay. 270 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,040 Am I a fan of drops? 271 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:49,120 Am I a fan of very limited supply? 272 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,000 Not necessarily. 273 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,920 I think that if there's something available that you want to get, then great. 274 00:11:53,920 --> 00:12:00,400 As long as so, so I guess to sum up what I'm, what I'm trying to say, I like the idea as 275 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,760 long as there's still accessible, it's still accessible. 276 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:09,920 Whether it's digital and just the physical portion are, is what distillery drops. 277 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:10,960 I get that. 278 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:18,000 It's a great maneuver for the creator owned industry to make money, to drive interest 279 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,000 into specific, in a specific industry. 280 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,240 They do it with shoes, a model did it with posters, whatnot does it on their app with 281 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:24,880 a lot of things. 282 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,960 You know, I like the idea behind it. 283 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:32,240 What I just don't like is like, is if I see something that I very much want and I'm forced 284 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,000 to go to the aftermarket to get it, that's probably going to happen. 285 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:40,000 Unfortunately, I know, I know it's going to happen and I'm not, that's, that's the port. 286 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,400 That's the backside of it that I'm not happy about it. 287 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:47,440 Do I love the fact that creators are getting their own space, their own ability, their own, 288 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,920 their, their remaining with that ownership of their IPs. 289 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,840 I love that for the creators. 290 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:58,560 What sucks though, is the fact that in order to make this a success, you have to limit 291 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:00,080 what's accessible to everybody. 292 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:07,360 And I get it, but in a, here's, here's, I guess, I don't mean to drag on too much about this, 293 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:12,400 but there are too many people out there with access to ways of like scalping these items. 294 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:13,280 Or bots even. 295 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:13,840 Bots. 296 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:14,320 Yeah. 297 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:15,760 So they use bots. 298 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,280 Nobody gets a chance to buy them. 299 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:18,960 They're sold out, they're gone. 300 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:25,520 And now I have to go pay three times the, the, the MSRP because some asshole is, is able to use, 301 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,520 like there's gotta be a different way. 302 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:32,720 So I think what the main idea, and I agree with you with everything that you just said there 303 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:38,800 is the, what distillery wants to do here is they want to give fans the option to gain 304 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,360 or to buy more exclusive things. 305 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,520 And the creator gets that right. 306 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:48,400 Like a lot of times what happens at cons or say like a single issue comes out and it's 307 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,800 got like our first appearance or a variant comic creators do not see any money from variants. 308 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:53,200 Right. 309 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:54,400 That is that's Marvel. 310 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:55,040 That's DC. 311 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:55,840 That's boom studios. 312 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:56,560 That's image comics. 313 00:13:56,560 --> 00:13:57,680 They get all that money. 314 00:13:57,680 --> 00:14:01,520 I think what distillery is trying to do is they're trying to put the money in the creator's hands. 315 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:07,760 So if Scott Snyder or Elsa Chardier create a new series, all the money that's made from 316 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,400 these exclusives goes right to the creator. 317 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:15,760 It is going to be a situation where there's going to be a very limited variant or very 318 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:16,960 limited piece of merch. 319 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:17,520 That's fine. 320 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:21,840 As long as it's just the variant, as long as like, because I think the normal series 321 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,280 is going to be available. 322 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:23,520 Yeah. 323 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:24,560 Exclusive stuff. 324 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:25,040 Good. 325 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:25,920 Because that's what I'm saying. 326 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:30,880 That's what I was worried about because like I see what not stuff in my comic shop. 327 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:39,600 I see publishers that do limited access of variants in my comic shop, which I'm glad to see. 328 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:44,560 Those are publishing houses that still cater to the everyday person, to the everyday Joe. 329 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:49,840 What I don't want is a limitation on the entire supply. 330 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:50,160 Right. 331 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:51,040 Like a bad idea. 332 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,160 Have you heard a bad idea? 333 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,440 Yeah, that was a bad idea. 334 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:53,760 Now they're gone. 335 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:54,560 It was a bad idea. 336 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:59,440 I think that they are completely poking fun at the comic medium, making everything 337 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:04,400 extremely exclusive, no digital comics, like having zero access to their work. 338 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,440 Didn't they have like a completely like clear comic book? 339 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,120 Yeah, they sold invisible comic. 340 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:09,600 Yeah. 341 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,680 Then CGC created it because it's a gimmick. 342 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,120 That's a it's a joke to them. 343 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,760 And I understand the impulse to like poke fun at the industry because it is some parts of it 344 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,200 are very silly and like collecting in general is kind of a silly idea. 345 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,800 As someone who's a giant collector of a lot of things, I tell you that it's just hoarding. 346 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,000 Clear your shoulder. 347 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:27,280 Exactly. 348 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:31,440 Everyone behind me, you can't see it, but I've got over 1200 graphic novels behind me, 349 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,280 plus statues and other things. 350 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,640 So yeah, the idea is silly and bad ideas making fun of that. 351 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:43,360 I think the story will give fans the option to buy more exclusive things and the creators 352 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:44,400 will get all of it. 353 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:49,280 But the worry, as always, like you said, is scalpers, bots, people that are going to buy 354 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:53,760 this stuff strictly to sell it in the aftermarket will have access to this stuff and the real 355 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:54,960 fans will have none of it. 356 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,200 Again, because like I when I was at Megacon in Orlando, like I got in line, luckily, 357 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:05,040 with enough time to buy some of the fan expo exclusive variants for Megacon. 358 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:05,360 Yeah. 359 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:12,320 And when I was in line, all I saw was just guys coming back and grabbing more like just 360 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,400 stacks of the exclusives. 361 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,640 And like within an hour, they were all gone. 362 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,760 And it's like, I know people that were trying to go for those and it's just, it sucks because, 363 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:26,560 and then I find out from the guy who was managing the convention that the people selling the comics 364 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,040 were only supposed to let people buy one each. 365 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:29,680 Yeah. 366 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:34,080 And it's like, you need to make sure that your staff knows this before you put them in charge, 367 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,320 because it clearly wasn't happening. 368 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,800 Collecting is a dirty game, especially exclusives like con convention exclusives and things 369 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:41,200 like that. 370 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,400 Like if you know the right people and you're and you're getting a little something, something 371 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,920 on the side, you know, being at these conventions, I can tell you, I've seen a lot of gross stuff 372 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,600 and it's unfortunately a part of it. 373 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:54,000 But, you know, you just hopefully as a fan, you were able to just gain access to some of 374 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:54,400 that stuff. 375 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,320 So, yeah, let's go. 376 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,160 Yeah, let's go ahead and get to our next piece of news here. 377 00:16:58,160 --> 00:16:58,400 Yeah. 378 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,560 So Netflix is reportedly developing. 379 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:02,560 Fuck this news, man. 380 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,840 An American remake of Squid Game. 381 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:06,800 Yeah. 382 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:08,000 Why? 383 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:11,280 I honestly don't even want to read. 384 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:11,440 Okay. 385 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,200 So my reaction was the same thing because it's like why oversaturate something that 386 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:16,960 is already like extremely popular. 387 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,760 But the news does kind of make sense. 388 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,080 Let's get into this and let's see how you feel after we talk about a little bit. 389 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,520 So Squid Game was one of the biggest shows that Netflix obviously has ever released. 390 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:26,240 It was huge. 391 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,600 Mass streamed all time. 392 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:28,400 Most streamed. 393 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,960 And with season two in the works with creator, 394 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,040 Xiang Ji Hong, the series hasn't really been in the news recently. 395 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,760 Jeff Snyder's The Hot Mic podcast revealed last week that Netflix is in the process 396 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:44,320 of developing a remake of Squid Game and they want David Fincher to produce the series. 397 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,480 Rumor has it that the series would not be a direct remake, but instead a new series of 398 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,960 Squid Games, but just set in America in the same universe. 399 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,880 Netflix has not confirmed that this American remake is in the works. 400 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:02,400 I swear to God, like I hope this is a fucking lie because I'm so I think I'm cursing more 401 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,320 this episode and then we've ever done before. 402 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,000 So I apologize if this is offending anybody. 403 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:06,960 I'll try and stop. 404 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:12,320 I hope this is not the case only because like I am very tired of them. 405 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,360 This is basically them whitewashing a series. 406 00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:20,320 But I mean, let's be honest, they're taking an idea from from somewhere else in the world 407 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,320 and and just basically catering and pandering to white America. 408 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,240 And obviously in this case, it didn't matter. 409 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,200 It wasn't. 410 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,240 It's not needed. 411 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,240 It's the most stream show ever. 412 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,800 That means the original was fine. 413 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,760 If it was unknown, like there's a movie. 414 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,040 I want to say it's Japanese. 415 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:46,320 It's called Oldboy and Josh Brolin starred in the American remake. 416 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:51,920 I never saw the American remake, but I know that there was some insane twists in the 417 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,480 original that I feel like they probably couldn't have done. 418 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,640 And if they did do it in the in the remake, good for them. 419 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,200 But again, that was unnecessary. 420 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,880 Like there are certain things that are just so unnecessary. 421 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,920 Isn't that what generally happens to with these remakes is they always dull it down 422 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:08,400 a little bit. 423 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,120 They temper a lot of what makes it so special. 424 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:14,400 Like my my reaction, my first thought is always ghosts in a shell. 425 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:15,280 Why? 426 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:16,960 Why did we do this? 427 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,080 Why did we need a live action American version of that? 428 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:24,800 So that actually, I mean, to be honest, like that wasn't necessarily an American version. 429 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,240 I mean, it was just OK. 430 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,280 Let me let me explain something to a lot of people that were really upset about Ghost 431 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:30,080 in the Shell. 432 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:35,680 Ghost in the Shell did not whitewash major Ghost in the Shell, the original anime made 433 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,840 her culturally ambiguous because she was a cyborg. 434 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,520 She was not Japanese when she had the robot body. 435 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:49,280 OK, you're not going to replace a soldier's destroyed body and make them a super secret 436 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,400 robot cyborg agent and give them the same body. 437 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:58,000 So all the people that were upset about the Ghost in the Shell movie with Scarlett Johansson, 438 00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,920 go check your facts. 439 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:01,120 OK, go touch some grass. 440 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:02,480 I'm just saying. 441 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,280 But like I do understand that it's horrible. 442 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:06,400 I'm just saying they did. 443 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,360 They did dull it down. 444 00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:09,600 I will say like that, but it was still I mean, it was still cool. 445 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:15,200 But that was one of those that was one of those movies that they completely overshadowed 446 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:21,520 with a quote unquote racist agenda because they made an American woman star of a Japanese 447 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:22,240 anime. 448 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:22,560 Sure. 449 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,760 Like remake or I guess or adaptation. 450 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:30,320 So well, just to kind of get back to this good games, too, like I'm like when I first like 451 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,160 I said, when I saw the headline, I was like, OK, why? 452 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:32,560 Why? 453 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,000 We haven't even gotten a season two yet. 454 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,920 Season one just came out last year. 455 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,480 So why are we going back to the well immediately? 456 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:39,920 Netflix, what are we doing here? 457 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,280 We're not out of ideas yet, right? 458 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:42,720 We can't be out of ideas. 459 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,600 But when it says here that it's not a direct remake, it's instead it's a separate squid 460 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,840 games just set in America in the same universe. 461 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,440 That kind of changed things slightly for me. 462 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,680 I'm not like excited about it, but it does a little bit. 463 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,520 But I swear to God, if Mr. Beast is in this, I'm going to be fucking upset. 464 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:58,640 Got some tick talkers in there. 465 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,880 We got, you know, Haley Bieber. 466 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,800 They probably I'm not joking. 467 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:03,760 They probably will. 468 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:08,000 They probably will take the contestants and it'll be like influence. 469 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,840 So it'll be influencers. 470 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:10,240 Yeah. 471 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,880 But can you imagine Jack Black playing, you know, red light, green light? 472 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:15,600 I'm OK. 473 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:16,880 I would be OK with Jack Black. 474 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:17,920 I'm part of a generation. 475 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:22,000 And so are you of the Jack Black and as many things as you can. 476 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:22,880 But don't go. 477 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:23,680 But just don't kill him. 478 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:24,400 Why would you kill him? 479 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,520 That's silly. 480 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,760 But yeah, now, like I said, I'm on the fence about this a little bit, but I'm well. 481 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,520 If it ends up becoming true, I'm interested just to kind of see what if it's David Fincher, 482 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,320 Aaron, you know that David Fincher is my favorite director of all time. 483 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,880 So if David Fincher is involved, I'm in. 484 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,080 Like you have my money. 485 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,080 I mean, Netflix already has my money every month. 486 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,480 But like I'm going to see this if David Fincher is involved. 487 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:44,960 Yeah. 488 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:45,520 Yeah. 489 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:46,640 I'm still going to watch it. 490 00:21:47,360 --> 00:21:48,720 I'm not going to like I'm not going to lie. 491 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:49,360 I'm not over. 492 00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:51,120 Are we going to get a squid games universe? 493 00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:53,520 The squid squid verse is SGU. 494 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:54,020 Yeah. 495 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:56,480 All right. 496 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:57,840 Let's get into our last bit of news here. 497 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,120 We got our first trailer for Marvel Studios, the Marvels. 498 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:02,960 So it's been a while since we've seen Captain Marvel, 499 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:03,280 a.k.a. 500 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,880 Carol Danvers on the big screen. 501 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,600 Her last cinematic experience was at the end credit scenes of Shang 502 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,960 Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings, although we did also see her in the 503 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,200 final episode of Disney Plus's Miss Marvel. 504 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,160 Since then, Captain Marvel's the Captain Marvel story has gotten a lot bigger 505 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,120 outside of the main films with one division introducing us to a grown up 506 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:22,560 version of Monica Rambeau getting her powers, getting her own powers. 507 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,880 We also recently met Captain Marvel super fan Kamala Khan, who also became a 508 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,160 hero herself in the Miss Marvel Disney Plus series. 509 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:34,400 Now, all three of these beloved characters will be uniting for the Marvels, 510 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,880 the official sequel to 2019's Captain Marvel, 511 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,920 which will see these three heroes team up to stop a new cosmic threat. 512 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:40,640 Are we a team? 513 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,680 Come on, like I'm in Volanias, come on, like on is still I love her. 514 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,320 Like I don't think we ever reviewed Miss Marvel here on the show. 515 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:48,800 I don't think so. 516 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:54,480 I think it's probably top one or two favorite Disney Plus shows thus far. 517 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:59,280 Like it's it's probably Loki, She-Hulk, then Miss Marvel for me in terms of my 518 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:00,160 favorite Disney pluses. 519 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,440 I know that's kind of a hot take ish kind of, you know, take right there. 520 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,880 But I love all three of those shows so much. 521 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,160 So yeah, I'm going to go. 522 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,360 I'm going to go Loki, She-Hulk, Hawkeye. 523 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:12,320 OK, yeah. 524 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,520 So if everyone goes back and listens to our episode with Sal from Comic Pop 525 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,960 talking about phase four of the MCU, he actually had Hawkeye quite pretty high 526 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:19,520 on his list, too. 527 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,280 I want to say it was like number two or three on his list. 528 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,160 So I get it. 529 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,960 You know, I'm just not really like I liked it, but I didn't love it as much as 530 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:25,440 most people. 531 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:30,480 So I just can't stand a like I can't give Miss Marvel like a higher rating 532 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:36,160 in my in my level of greatness because I cannot stand a series that does not 533 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,200 have a villain. 534 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:37,840 Yeah. 535 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:38,880 And this one did not. 536 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,680 Well, quickly, what would you give Miss Marvel out of five David A. 537 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:42,160 Winers? 538 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,840 Just since we didn't cover it here on the show. 539 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:44,560 A three. 540 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:45,120 You give it a three. 541 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:46,720 Yeah, I was going to give it a three point five. 542 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,160 Like it's pretty good. 543 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,760 It's like Loki is probably a four. 544 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,320 She-Hulk's probably like a three point five. 545 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,080 Miss Marvel's probably like a three point five for me. 546 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,880 Well, if you go back and listen to our she-hulk for you, because we did 547 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,280 review that here on the show, I think I actually did give it a three point five. 548 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,480 So I should have given it a five. 549 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,040 But I'm kidding for different reasons. 550 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,080 So in the trailer here, we keep seeing the three heroes power swapping. 551 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,280 You know what's going on here. 552 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,680 We actually saw that in the Miss Marvel series as well. 553 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,360 When Kamala uses her powers, all of a sudden, Carol Danvers burst into her 554 00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:16,320 closet and wakes up. 555 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,520 It's like, what the hell is going on? 556 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,440 Which I think we actually see in this trailer as well. 557 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,440 So we also see the return of Nick Fury, who will be fresh off the events of the 558 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,280 Disney Plus series Secret Invasion and the events that go into the events of 559 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:27,760 this movie. 560 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,280 So Parasite Star. 561 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,320 I'm going to say this wrong here. 562 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,680 Park Seo Jung. 563 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:32,880 Is that right? 564 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:34,160 June. 565 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:34,960 June. 566 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,120 Yeah, I love Parasite, but I don't know if I said that correctly. 567 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:41,360 Whose mysterious character still remains just that can be seen leading a group of 568 00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:45,120 warriors into a potentially big battle, followed by a followed by a hoard of 569 00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:49,040 what could be dozens of flirtkins, which is what Goose is in the show. 570 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,080 Excuse me, in the movie, in the first movie, we do have a bit more info 571 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,600 regarding the film's potential big bad being played by a velvet bussoles. 572 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:56,880 I'm going to say this wrong again, too. 573 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,160 Zowie Ashton. 574 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,000 That's not about right. 575 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,800 Okay, we've known that Ashton could be playing a villain in the film following 576 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,000 her casting announcement, but her appearance in the trailer indicates that 577 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,320 she has connection with a classic MCU big bad. 578 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,840 In the first brief scene, we see Ashton still unnamed character wielding a 579 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,840 hammer, which, as we know from Guardians of the Galaxy, is called the Cosmo Rod. 580 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,200 It looks remarkably close to the same hammer that's wielded by Ronan the 581 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,720 Accuser, played by Lee Pace, who also showed up in the first Captain Marvel 582 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,680 movie briefly and, you know, of course, is the main villain of the first 583 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,000 Guardians of the Galaxy film with the Power Stone. 584 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:36,320 So the Marvels, of course, will be releasing in theaters on November 10th, 2023. 585 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:41,600 Aaron, when this late again, when you excuse me, when this was first 586 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,240 premiered, you actually texted me and said you thought this looked pretty good. 587 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:44,960 Do you stand by this? 588 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,160 Do you still think it looks pretty good? 589 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:46,800 Yeah, I do. 590 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:51,440 I'm I'm fairly excited for this, which I did not expect. 591 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,240 Yeah, you're a notorious hater of the first movie. 592 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,280 I'm not saying you're a hater. 593 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,440 I'm just saying you don't like the first movie, right? 594 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,640 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 595 00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:59,440 I'll go with that. 596 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,640 He is not a hater, everybody. 597 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,160 He likes powerful women. 598 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,680 Okay. He is not an incel. 599 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,040 He just didn't like the movie. 600 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:05,680 All right. 601 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:10,240 I gave very specific reasons for not liking Captain Marvel. 602 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:15,200 Okay. It was it felt like, again, Captain Marvel felt like it was an 603 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,760 afterthought when it came to the MCU. 604 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:18,000 Yeah. 605 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,080 Smushed between Infinity War and Endgame. 606 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:20,240 Yeah. 607 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:20,480 Yeah. 608 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,280 It's like we had to figure out who Captain Marvel was before she showed up. 609 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,040 Oh, shit, we forgot to do a Captain Marvel movie. 610 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,480 Yeah, this was definitely like a phase two movie that came out in phase. 611 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:28,880 Yeah. 612 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,600 So had it been released earlier, probably would have enjoyed it a bit more, but we didn't get it. 613 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,200 So yeah, I'm excited for this. 614 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,160 A, I love Kamala Khan. 615 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,400 I love I love Milani. 616 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,360 Is there what I'm in? 617 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:41,760 Milani. 618 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:42,320 Yeah, I am in. 619 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:50,480 I love what she's she for some reason like her her genuineness when it comes to being a super fan 620 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:55,040 of Captain Marvel and then the seriousness of Monica Rambeau. 621 00:26:55,600 --> 00:27:01,200 I'm just I'm excited for the how they all kind of like interact and that they do need to team up. 622 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,880 So there's like there is a lot to this. 623 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:08,960 The movie looks really cool, looks really action packed again with a with a return of Nick Fury 624 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,600 after the Secret Wars like I just. 625 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:12,400 Invasion. 626 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,760 So excuse me, Secret Invasion. 627 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,440 Secret Wars was who? 628 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,560 The Secret Wars is a lot. 629 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,760 We got a couple of years for Secret Wars. 630 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:18,800 Remember, that's the first. 631 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,400 That's the second movie. 632 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,320 That's the second Avengers movie between after we get the King Dynasty, then it's Secret Wars. 633 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:24,720 Right. 634 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:25,760 So Secret Invasion. 635 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,800 I'm just excited to see how this plays out. 636 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:34,480 I really I want them to give more to Captain Marvel. 637 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,400 I want them to redeem what her character has already been put through 638 00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:41,840 as far as the her reception into the MCU. 639 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,600 So I am excited for that to go. 640 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:48,480 And Monica Rambeau, just I'm excited because of after seeing her on WandaVision. 641 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:53,680 I think that she is and then also they had somebody else play 642 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:59,600 photon or Captain Marvel, like Captain Marvel, the black version, Captain Marvel in in. 643 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,000 Dr. Strange, Dr. Strange. 644 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:02,720 Yeah, that's her mother. 645 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:02,960 Yeah. 646 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:03,920 So that's her Maria. 647 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,160 Maria Rambeau is Captain Marvel in a separate universe. 648 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:06,480 Yeah. 649 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:06,800 Yeah. 650 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,920 So like I just I'm excited for her to get her time as well. 651 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,640 It's I think it's going to be exciting. 652 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,400 So I am excited for this movie. 653 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,040 So the thing that I'm most excited about with this movie is the 654 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,080 the kind of the relationships between these three characters. 655 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:26,240 On one hand, you have Carol Danvers, who her relationship to Earth has not really 656 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,480 been the same since the 90s when she left. 657 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:29,120 Right. 658 00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:30,160 She was from Earth. 659 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,280 But then the moment she got these powers, she essentially has been 660 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,680 shipping around from planet to planet, helping wherever she can 661 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,560 with not really a moment to breathe in between that and in game. 662 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:45,280 And even after that sense, then you have Monica Rambeau, who, of course, 663 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,760 was very close to Carol when she was still on Earth. 664 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,240 But since Carol left and it's shown in one division that Monica is very jaded 665 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,120 towards Carol. 666 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,880 She thinks that she abandoned her mother because Maria eventually passes away. 667 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,080 And where was Carol? 668 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,520 Carol, that's her best friend. 669 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,600 That was, you know, her basically her surrogate mother or like her surrogate aunt, 670 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:04,800 whatever you want to call her. 671 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,240 Carol met so much to Monica and Carol just left and never came back. 672 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,640 And Monica is clearly upset with that. 673 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,240 Again, it shows in one division. 674 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,200 We're going to have some some dealings with that for sure. 675 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,240 Absolutely. 676 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,800 Then you have Kamala Khan, who reveres Captain Marvel so much like she thinks 677 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,720 she is just beyond everything. 678 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,240 Like she's a she's a mega fan. 679 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,080 She's a fanatic of Captain Marvel. 680 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:31,920 And what happens when you meet your your your hero sometimes, Aaron, you get let down. 681 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,320 Yeah, I mean, you're going to have and that's the thing is you have this almost 682 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:43,760 almost like I want to say, like no no Irish, like dark personality that like again, 683 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,960 she is a hero for so many reasons. 684 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:53,040 But Captain Marvel has a chip on her shoulder, you know, and she's and I think smile. 685 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:53,520 Yeah. 686 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:58,160 All of that is all of the weight that she's been bearing with her powers and what she's 687 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,400 been responsible for out in the universe is going to show up in this. 688 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:08,080 And she is going to have to realize that she does have a little bit of a responsibility 689 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:14,160 for the Earth and her and her friends and family and what she is and who she represents 690 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,200 or what she represents. 691 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,840 So there's going to be again, there's going to be what they say, you know, 692 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:23,360 some comeuppance when it comes to how she is received by these two counterparts. 693 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,880 Yeah, I mean, we've all been there, right? 694 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,600 We've all been lost in the sauce when it comes to life. 695 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:28,560 Things take precedence. 696 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:29,840 We have priorities in our heads. 697 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,840 And right now, Earth is such a small priority to Carol. 698 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,880 I mean, since but she needs to ground her. 699 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,640 She needs to be grounded in that humanity. 700 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:43,520 And I think that's going to be a huge pivotal portion of this story is that she has lost 701 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:48,080 her her her kind of like like like Dr. Manhattan. 702 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,680 Yeah, like his his like his tether to Earth and to humanity is gone. 703 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,080 And the only thing that's holding him there is still expect her. 704 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,400 And the moment that she eventually leaves, he's like, well, I'm going to Mars, bitch. 705 00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:58,960 I'm out of here. 706 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,440 I'm done. So yeah, it's going to be very interesting. 707 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,520 I'm very excited for the Marvels. 708 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,880 I'm glad that we're only getting is it two movies this year or three? 709 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,720 We've got Guardians of the Galaxy, volume three. 710 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,240 We've got the Marvels. 711 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,480 And then is there anything else this year? 712 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,560 I don't think anything else. 713 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:15,120 No, I don't think so. 714 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,280 I don't think there's any other movies, which is great. 715 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,240 I'm very happy with that because yeah, because there's only three because we had 716 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,480 Ant-Man and the Wasp quantum media earlier this year. 717 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,240 So yeah, I think it's only three. 718 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,120 I'm very excited. 719 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,720 So that'll do it for our News and Notes. 720 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,000 Once again, thank you to what not for sponsoring that News and Notes segment. 721 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:30,880 Truly appreciate it. 722 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,120 Check out the show notes for that fifteen dollars. 723 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,120 We're going to go and get into our review of Renfield before we do, though. 724 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,200 We're going to take a quick break and we will be right back. 725 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,760 Hey there, I'm Chris from the Geek Peek podcast here with my two co-hosts, Trent. 726 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:44,240 What up? 727 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:45,760 And Brandon. 728 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,640 Yo, yo, here at the Geek Peek, we strive to provide you the best content from all across 729 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,160 the pop culture multiverse. 730 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:57,200 Think of us as your content concierge seeking out all the best movies, TV, 731 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,840 games and music to save your valuable time. 732 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,440 We have a different adult beverage every week and we like to keep things light and fresh. 733 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,640 So coming out with us. 734 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,520 So check us out on all your favorite podcasting platforms. 735 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:08,480 That's Geek Peek. 736 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,920 Like a mountain. 737 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,480 And check out our site at geekpeekpod.com. 738 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,000 Hey, everybody. 739 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:25,600 Our sponsor for today's episode is G Fuel, the official energy drink of e-sports. 740 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,960 Whether you're a casual gamer, a content creator, an everyday Joe or an e-sports pro, 741 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,960 G Fuel's sugar-free antioxidant and vitamin fortified focus enhancing 742 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,600 and high performance energy products will give you the edge you need to fuel your grind. 743 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:45,840 No sugar, no gluten, no crash, just natural clean vitamin energy that's available in over 40 744 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,080 lip smacking flavors. 745 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:55,200 While stocking up at G Fuel.com use our code OBP at checkout for 10% off your entire order. 746 00:32:55,200 --> 00:33:00,320 That's OBP at checkout G Fuel performance energized. 747 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:05,520 Main topic. 748 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,280 For episode 115 of the Oblivion Bar podcast, we're talking about Renfield. 749 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,800 Why don't you start by telling us what brought you here? 750 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,400 My boss, he's different. 751 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,080 You can't get him out of your head. 752 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:30,880 No. 753 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,320 I need your assistance. 754 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,440 I'm coming, master. 755 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,160 Oh, you feel like he could destroy you with the snap of his fingers. 756 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,320 Wouldn't even need to snap. 757 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:42,720 Okay. 758 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,640 Oh, that sounds familiar. 759 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:45,120 Yeah, what? 760 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,120 Renfield, bringing innocent victims. 761 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:58,960 I want a handful of nuns, a busload of cheerleaders. 762 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,520 And I just want a normal life again. 763 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:23,200 That this modern world is a dangerous place. 764 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:23,840 Thank you. 765 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:24,880 You saved my life. 766 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,920 Did I watch you cut a guy with a decorative serving platter? 767 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:28,720 It's all in the wrist. 768 00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:29,520 Let me explain. 769 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,760 My boss gave me this power. 770 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,320 In return, I tend to his needs, including care, feeding. 771 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,760 You bring in people to eat. 772 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,680 You're like the guy that gets the villains postmates. 773 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,240 But if you were to stop focusing on his needs, what would happen? 774 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,960 He won't grow to full power. 775 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,080 Exactly. 776 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,520 He won't grow to full power. 777 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:54,400 What? 778 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,520 That's so weird. 779 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,040 Why would you frame him as a villain? 780 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,200 That's so weird. Why would you phrase it like that? 781 00:34:59,200 --> 00:34:59,680 But yes. 782 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:01,920 Hi. 783 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,040 Are you here for the meeting? 784 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,000 Well, come on. 785 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:04,640 No! 786 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:05,140 No! 787 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,240 Some call me the Dark One. 788 00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:10,560 Others, the Lord of Death. 789 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:17,200 To most, I am Barak Yuna. 790 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,640 OK, obviously we're dealing with a little bit more than just narcissism here. 791 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:25,600 Now, let's eat. 792 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,120 All righty, here we are talking about Renfield Aaron. 793 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,160 Spoilers ahead. 794 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:37,040 If you have not seen this brand new comedy, horror action, whatever this is, 795 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,480 please take a second. 796 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:38,960 Pause this. 797 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,800 Yeah, go go watch the film and then come back. 798 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,360 Wow, this is this is definitely this is an interesting movie. 799 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,880 And Aaron, we have not talked about this at all. 800 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,560 We've pretty much saved everything until we've gotten to this review here. 801 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:53,680 You actually saw it yesterday. 802 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:54,960 I saw it on Thursday night. 803 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,360 Initial thoughts, initial thoughts on Renfield. 804 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,480 It was long. 805 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:04,320 OK, all right. 806 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,600 So you thought it was actually really long. 807 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:06,080 Interesting. 808 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,720 OK, so it just felt long to you or? 809 00:36:08,720 --> 00:36:10,000 It felt long to me. 810 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,720 OK, you kind of dragged along a little bit. 811 00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:16,880 I just think that there was like there were relationships that didn't need to be in it. 812 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:17,360 OK. 813 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,680 And those relationships trying to give give weight to some of the antics 814 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,920 and some of the villains. 815 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,400 Just it was to me, it really wasn't necessary. 816 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:27,040 So interesting. 817 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,080 Are you think are you talking about Awkwafina and Nicholas Holt? 818 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:31,840 Yes. 819 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,680 OK, because this movie is only 93 minutes long. 820 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:34,480 It's only an hour and a half. 821 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:35,760 It's not really it's actually. 822 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:36,560 Is it really? 823 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,560 Yeah, it's about as long as most horror films. 824 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:39,200 Oh, my God. 825 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,480 That felt like, oh, my God, I was I'm not going to lie. 826 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,080 OK, I do. 827 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:44,880 I fell asleep. 828 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:46,000 You did. 829 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:46,320 Wow. 830 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:46,960 Yeah. 831 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:47,600 Yeah. 832 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:48,400 How was your theater? 833 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,080 Was it was it packed or not really? 834 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:50,880 No, there's OK. 835 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:51,840 Six people in it. 836 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,440 We're going to talk about that here. 837 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,400 Mine was actually not like completely empty. 838 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,400 There was about 20 people in my in my showing, 839 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,560 but it was notoriously bomb worthy for Thursday. 840 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,560 It only made nine hundred thousand dollars on Thursday. 841 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,880 Oh, not great. 842 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,240 But not not good. 843 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,080 But my initial thoughts is that I had fun with it. 844 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,320 I think it gave me kind of exactly what I wanted from this movie in a certain aspect. 845 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:21,520 There are issues, but this movie, I think almost from the opening scene, 846 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,000 showed me that it did not take itself seriously. 847 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,680 Therefore, I should either. 848 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:26,000 Right. 849 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,560 Like it is this is a this is a really fun just like we're in the spring, 850 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,840 but this kind of like feels like kind of like a fun summer movie that you just kind of 851 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:38,080 will turn on when it's on streaming or something that you put on while you're cleaning. 852 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,120 I know this is not a good endorsement for going to see the theater, everybody, 853 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,200 but it is like I had a good time with it. 854 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,320 I will say that it's it is a bipolar film. 855 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:46,800 Yes. 856 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:47,120 Yeah. 857 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,200 It's there were moments where I was like, what? 858 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,600 And there's moments where I literally was asleep. 859 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,760 You know, were you getting laughs in your theater? 860 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,440 Were people laughing at the jokes? 861 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,800 I laughed at some of them. 862 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,440 Yeah, I did, too. 863 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,520 That's why I was curious because my crowd was actually kind of animated at certain parts. 864 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,400 Like they were laughing, they were gasping, and there's like there's only 20 people. 865 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:09,440 But like, yeah, it was kind of like it was kind of a refreshing movie going experience 866 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,520 with all these people who are like kind of into it. 867 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,120 And I thought it was really fun. 868 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,200 OK, so I'm going to mention I'm going to talk about something like that in a few minutes 869 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,640 because and I'll try and remember, I'll probably forget, but I won't. 870 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,560 But let's go into the summary real quick. 871 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:22,960 All right. 872 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,120 So Renfield, should I do it? 873 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,000 Can you do it in like a vampiric voice? 874 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,200 Like a oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 875 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,880 Transylvanian voice. 876 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,280 You got to add in like some Transylvania music in the background. 877 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,480 Yeah, some bad in the background. 878 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:36,980 Right. 879 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:38,400 Here we go. 880 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:46,000 Renfield, the tortured aide to his narcissistic boss, Dracula, is forced to procure his master's 881 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,000 prey and do is every bidding. 882 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:54,800 However, after centuries of servitude, he's ready to see if there's a life outside the shadow 883 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,320 of the Prince of Darkness. 884 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,120 Aaron just tried to give an evil laugh and just kind of right in the throat. 885 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:04,640 Wow. 886 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:05,120 Yeah. 887 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,640 I'm probably talking like this for the rest of the show. 888 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,840 So here's something interesting, Aaron, is that the screenplay was actually co-written 889 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,360 by Robert Kirkman, right? 890 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,080 Like, right. 891 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:14,320 Yeah. 892 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:14,480 Why? 893 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,080 I saw that at the end. 894 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:16,400 Why? 895 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:16,720 Yeah. 896 00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:17,440 Watching the credits. 897 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,640 Did you see Robert Kirkman as well? 898 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:19,440 Robert Kirkman. 899 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,440 I was like, I was like looking around like anybody else see that? 900 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:23,680 No. 901 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:24,160 Yeah. 902 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,120 Does anyone else care? 903 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,600 It's probably invincible guys walking dead. 904 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:28,720 That's going on here. 905 00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:31,120 But also Ryan Ridley as well, who was a writer on Rick and Morty. 906 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,720 Rick and Morty writers is like the new community college. 907 00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:39,760 Like these writers for Rick and Morty, they do two years and they're off doing their real job. 908 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,720 Like all of them. 909 00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:44,320 You've got them all over the internship as a writer at Rick and Morty. 910 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,440 Seriously, you get hired at like the Washington Post. 911 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:47,920 Exactly. 912 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,000 Like they literally graduate from Rick and Morty to whatever their actual aspirations are. 913 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,520 But the movie, the screenplay itself is very linear. 914 00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:01,200 It's very simple, toxic relationships, how to deal with them, how to get out of them, 915 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,160 how to be okay. 916 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,040 Enough. 917 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:09,280 Yeah, like I think it's worth saying that and we'll get into the cast here that Nicholas 918 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:16,640 Holt as Renfield plays a very like this is a very low hanging comparison, but like I zombie, 919 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,680 kind of pathetic. 920 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,640 You mean warm bodies? 921 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,120 Maybe it was warm bodies. 922 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,360 Yeah, just the zombie that's alive kind of. 923 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,560 That's what I was going to say. 924 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:30,720 Like Nicholas, like this to me, this movie was a lot like it was almost a spiritual sequel. 925 00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:31,600 A spiritual sequel. 926 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:32,000 Thank you. 927 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,360 Yes, to warm bodies. 928 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,840 And I'm just like, like I enjoyed that one more than this one. 929 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:38,480 Sure. 930 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:39,120 Okay. 931 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:45,040 Yeah, it just, it kind of felt like Renfield got over his toxic relationship with Count 932 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,640 Dracula because he had to. 933 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,080 I don't think he really made the progressive steps that he really needed to, to eventually 934 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,440 get out of relationships like that, like completely cutting someone off the way you're supposed 935 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:54,640 to in those relationships. 936 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:59,600 We've all been in those relationships where we are being taken advantage of, where the 937 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,120 relationship is not benefiting us at all. It's only benefiting the person. 938 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,280 Why are you clearing your throat over there? 939 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:07,680 What are you implying, Aaron? 940 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:10,400 I don't have a soundboard. 941 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:13,600 Oh man. 942 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:13,840 Okay. 943 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,400 If you want to say, is that going to cure our relationship? 944 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:16,720 I'm kidding. 945 00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:20,000 I gave you one for like an episode and a half. 946 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:20,800 What else do you want? 947 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:27,600 But, you know, that being said, clearly Nicholas Cage is far and away the best part of this 948 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:33,280 movie, whatever Nick Cage is generally selling, I'm buying and he each use up every single 949 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,360 scene he's in. He's the best part of this movie. Do you agree? 950 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,560 Yes. And I'm going to give Ben Schwartz an easy second place to that. 951 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,360 Yeah. He's, it's John Ralphio meets like Scarface. 952 00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:54,080 Like Ben Schwartz is literally, he's a walking embodiment of John Ralphio. 953 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:54,720 Yeah. 954 00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:55,680 And he plays it so well. 955 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,400 I love it. 956 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,240 He's the doofus, the lovable doofus. 957 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,360 You know, it's like he threw some cocaine at the cops. 958 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,960 Okay. Actually that was the real scene whenever. 959 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:12,640 So they had the traffic stop with Awkwafina and Chris is the co-worker for. 960 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,080 Adrian Martinez. 961 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:14,400 Yeah. 962 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,200 Yeah. And all of a sudden you see Ben Schwartz. 963 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,920 Anytime you see a movie in 2023 where cars have neon underneath their car, 964 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:27,200 that's a so a 2005 like Fast and Furious type of aesthetic. It's like they're not really, 965 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:32,640 it's like black, it's black SUVs and orange chargers with neon lights underneath their car. 966 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,880 I immediately am like, they didn't even try. They are going straight to the well when it 967 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,880 comes to cliches of gangsters. Right? 968 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,920 Yeah. Honestly, like this was like a comic book, literally like a comic book turned into a movie 969 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,560 because it was so stupid. Because like, if you looked at the side of the car, 970 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,880 did you look at the vinyl wrap that was on the car? 971 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:49,600 No, I did not. 972 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:57,280 It was a lion snorting a line of cocaine. Like, it's like a racing stripe that turns into a powder 973 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,360 like dots. And then it's the lion is snorting it. Like that shit was funny. 974 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:06,960 Yeah. That aligns. Right. Like that tracks. And even at one point you have. 975 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,080 I have a prescription. 976 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,400 Yeah. Again, the best part about this movie, everyone, if you're listening, 977 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:20,640 before you watch the movie, we will say that the actors are doing all that they can. 978 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:25,680 I think everyone outside of Aquafina for me really like makes this worth it, even down to 979 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,440 some of the really small supporting characters. Like again, I keep saying it, but we're going to 980 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,600 get into the cast here in a moment. Mark, the support group leader, he is surprisingly very 981 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,240 refreshing in this. Yes. Yes. Mark and Bob. 982 00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:38,080 Yeah. And Bob as well. Yeah. 983 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:44,240 So director Chris McKay, director of seasons three through five of Robot Chicken and the Lego 984 00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:47,680 Batman movie, which I don't know if you've seen Chris is pretty good. Yeah, it's awesome. 985 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:52,560 McKay also wrote the recent Dungeons and Dragons honor among thieves, which has been doing 986 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,320 surprisingly well in theaters. Also, you remember before the year we were talking about 987 00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,960 honor among thieves is like, why are they doing this? This looks terrible. What's going on? 988 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:06,240 And then all of a sudden out of nowhere, like we never even thought that it could do this is that 989 00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:10,960 it's like it's kind of the surprise hit of the year. It's like this and Megan are the two movies 990 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,560 that we were like kind of completely writing off and now they're doing extremely well. 991 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,400 And I've seen neither of those. So Megan's good. I want to see. I'm going to eventually 992 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:23,360 see honor among thieves. But yeah, Megan is good. I would recommend it. So Chris McKay claimed that 993 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:31,040 this film is a direct sequel to Dracula in 1931. Yeah. Yeah. Which is funny because again, this 994 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:37,200 movie opens up into like a straight up like black and white. I'm not open. It has like a like a mini 995 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:42,480 opening and then it has its true opening where it's kind of like it's delve into its own history, 996 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:48,880 where it's like this black and white real like footage of Renfield and Dracula kind of through 997 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:55,680 the ages. It's pretty, it's pretty interesting the way that necessary. Funny. But like a funny bit. 998 00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:01,360 It was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was a bit. Yeah. No. And I think those were actually scenes from that 999 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:08,000 movie from the 1931 Dracula. So they just basically CGI. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you want me to do the 1000 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,440 cast or do you want to go and get into the cast? We've already talked about quite a few of these 1001 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:16,960 majority of just for the layman. Yeah. All right. So obviously Nicholas Cage is Count Dracula. He 1002 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:24,320 and he did amazing. Nicholas Holt as R.M. Renfield, Robert Montague, Renfield, Awkwafina as Officer 1003 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:34,240 Rebecca Quincy, Ben Schwartz as Tedward, Tedward, Choro Agdachalu as Bella Francesca, Adrian 1004 00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:39,040 Martinez as Chris, Officer Quincy's coworker and Brandon Scott Jones as Mark, who is the support 1005 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:43,760 group leader. An enormous fan of Dracula in the original source material, Nick Cage prepared for 1006 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:49,040 this role by observing the distinctive ways Dracula was portrayed on screen by Bella Lugosi, 1007 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:55,920 Frank Langalla. So Bella Lugosi was 1931's Dracula, Frank Langalla, 1979's John Bradham's Dracula, 1008 00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:00,400 excuse me. And then Gary Oldman from 92's Bram Stoker's Dracula, which everybody hails as, you 1009 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:06,480 know, the ultimate. Cage also mentioned an American werewolf in London from 1981, The Ring in 98 and 1010 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:14,800 Malignant, which we all have seen in 2021 as inspirations for this role. So Nick Cage being 1011 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:21,280 the the the just straight up weirdo and amazing man that he is really chose the greatest source 1012 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:27,680 materials. And I'll say it, I loved it, but I know it wasn't well received. But Dracula Untold was 1013 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:33,520 another, in my opinion, a great Dracula movie. If you've seen it, Chris, let me know. I actually 1014 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:41,360 have not seen it now. I actually. So Dracula Untold was kind of the origin of Dracula, but not saying 1015 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:48,480 that he was the original vampire. Sure. But but a very cool movie. And yeah, I mean, so like but he 1016 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,960 didn't include that as one of his source materials. I thought that was kind of interesting. Have you 1017 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:59,840 seen Vampire's Kiss from 1988? No. Have you ever seen Vampire's Vampire in Brooklyn? No, I have not. 1018 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,320 But the reason why I asked about Vampire's Kiss is because see, there's another divert right there 1019 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:09,520 and just try to do everybody. Do you see that everybody listening? Guilty. Guilty as charged. 1020 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:16,080 Yeah, got me. Vampire's Kiss is a movie from 88 that was that stars Nicolas Cage, and he essentially 1021 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:21,600 believes that he is turning into a vampire. And it's really interesting because it was kind of it's 1022 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:26,320 one of those movies that like it's kind of like a dark comedy, like there's horror elements to it, 1023 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:31,520 but it's also mostly a comedy. It's gained quite a cult following here recently because it was 1024 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:36,080 completely trashed back in the day. Like people were not taking it seriously. But as most things 1025 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:40,720 with Nicolas Cage, it has gained a cult following as time has gone on and have kind of viewed it 1026 00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:46,800 in a different lens because it is Nick Cage turned up to 11. You've probably even seen a lot of memes 1027 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:51,280 and gifs from that movie and didn't even realize it. Like there's one where he like lowers his head 1028 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:56,560 and points to the sky in a desk chair. That's Nicolas Cage in Vampire's Kiss. Oh, interesting. 1029 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,200 Every other secretary who's been here has been here longer than you, Elva. 1030 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:06,720 Everyone. And even if there was someone here who was here just one day longer than you, 1031 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:12,160 I still wouldn't ask that person to partake in such a miserable job as long as you were around. 1032 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:21,520 That's right, Elva. It's a horrible, horrible job sifting through old contract after old contract. 1033 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:28,960 I couldn't think of a more horrible job if I wanted to. And you have to do it. You have to, 1034 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:36,320 you have to or I'll fire you. Do you understand? Do you? I'll tell you, the thing that I really 1035 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:42,720 love about Nick Cage's interpretation of Dracula in this movie, again, while extremely campy and 1036 00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:49,200 while very, very like turned up to 11, his movement and the way that like his body acting 1037 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:54,160 is very, very good. I think that adds a lot to it. And you went over some of the inspirations 1038 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:58,880 of like the ring or Malignant. Those movies are very, very kind of like the central idea of them is 1039 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,200 kind of like a horrific kind of movement. Like think of the girl in the ring that is like her 1040 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,280 leg that comes over her shoulder as she's climbing out of the TV, like that kind of thing. With this 1041 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:12,240 movie, you have a lot of like the way Nick Cage when he's approaching someone, he always walks up 1042 00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:16,480 really slowly. But the things he does with his hands and the way he turns his shoulders and the 1043 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:21,840 way he moves around you in circles is almost like he's stalking you. They're very predator to prey. 1044 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:27,360 Yes, absolutely. And everyone knows the age old like Dracula can't go anywhere without being 1045 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:32,560 invited. They even talk about that. Like he has to you have to physically invite him to go to go to 1046 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:39,120 places. And I think what this movie does is it gives Nicolas Cage the charisma for people to like 1047 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:46,240 almost weirdly inherently trust him. Yeah, but they shouldn't because he doesn't he doesn't hide his 1048 00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:51,360 extremely sharp teeth in this movie or his pale skin or his giant top hat and cape. Like he is 1049 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:58,880 very, very much like the prototypical vampire. But like he preys on the fact that we are that humans 1050 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:05,680 are idiots. Yes. And that we do everything to like to like we're we're pleasers. OK, and we would 1051 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:11,440 rather die than like then judge someone to the point where we know that they're a danger to us. 1052 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:16,240 But we're like, yeah, we don't want to be rude. Was the Renfields, you know, welcome, come in 1053 00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:21,520 mad. Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, there was. And so like that allowed that was an invitation 1054 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:26,160 because he put it out there. And then and then the group leader who's just like, oh, come on into 1055 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:30,800 the group. You know, that I love those subtle, subtle ways that they included the lore into the 1056 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:35,920 screenplay. Exactly, exactly. So there I was going to say because like there's a couple of movies 1057 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:40,880 that are just really fucking terrible that are funny, though, because of how terrible they are. 1058 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:45,920 But Jim Carrey did a vampire movie quite a few years ago called Once Bitten. And it's 1059 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:52,880 actually one of my favorite vampire movies ever. And it's basically he is trying to get laid. 1060 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:58,320 And and he's basically he's like he's like a teenage guy. You know, he's trying to get laid 1061 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:04,560 and he ends up like dating semi kind of dating this vampire and she bites him once, but she has 1062 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:08,800 to bite him like one more time before like some like full moon or something before he becomes 1063 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:16,480 like a full vampire. And so it's him like going through the process, but still trying to like 1064 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,320 maintain being like human, like having to maintain his humanity, but also trying to like get his 1065 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:25,600 girlfriend back. So it's like one of those teenage like dating, like angsty, but like 80s, 1066 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:30,320 like funny comedies. Yeah. Nineteen five. I'm looking at right now. Yeah. That's another one. 1067 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:35,280 And so I highly recommend that one if you like just funny comedy like vampire films. Another one 1068 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:39,840 is Vampire in Brooklyn, which is Eddie Murphy is Dracula. OK, yeah. 1069 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:46,640 So vampires are such an easy like you can use and Robert Kirkwood is known for this. A lot of 1070 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:51,440 times what he does is he tells stories through vehicles of a not a cliche. What's the word I'm 1071 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:57,680 looking for? Like The Walking Dead is a zombie story. But in reality, what makes The Walking 1072 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:02,960 Dead scary is not the zombies. It's the people. Right. Yeah. Invincible is a superhero story, 1073 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:08,000 but it's a story about relationships. It's a story about parents. They're metaphorical. 1074 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:13,360 Yeah. A lot of he uses like stereotypes, I guess, as a way of putting it as a vehicle. And this is 1075 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:19,920 a vampire story. Yes. But it's more about codependency and toxic, toxic relationships 1076 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:25,120 more than anything else. But I think that's also it's like, you know, what do you call it? So 1077 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:31,360 Dracula also. So Nick Cage's character is also kind of I can't think of that. I'm having trouble 1078 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:36,560 thinking of the word, but he's almost I'm not sure what the word is, but he's he has his own like 1079 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:42,240 these these blinders on. He almost has this like filter over his eyes where he doesn't see himself 1080 00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:48,640 as the problem. He's a narcissist. Yeah. Yeah. He's a narcissist, but he also has this like the 1081 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:54,320 the lenses that he's looking at the world and that he's looking at his relationship is is more than 1082 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:59,520 just narcissism because he's blinded. I mean, he is blinded by his narcissism. Yes. But there's 1083 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:04,720 like more to it than that. But I just I think that when they're talking about what you said earlier 1084 00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:09,280 when we first started talking about this and how they didn't really address his his healing, his 1085 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:14,400 arc as far as character development, I mean, Renfield, I appreciate that they made the movie 1086 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:22,240 about toxic relationships and it being a hindrance on humanity. But I also would have liked them to 1087 00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:29,280 maybe do do a little bit more with, yes, his kind of healing because they have the moment where 1088 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:34,640 they're in the apartment together. But the next time that we see Dracula and Renfield together 1089 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,000 is at the end when they're fighting each other. And I guess that's kind of his moment to kind of 1090 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:42,880 overcome all this. But it all felt felt more like he was trying to save Aquafina and less about him 1091 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:48,320 trying to overcome this relationship and finally get out from underneath Dracula. Exactly. So to 1092 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:52,800 me, it felt like he was going from one relationship of codependency to almost another. Yeah. And 1093 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:57,840 that's what happens in relationships is that exactly these people do not get over codependency. 1094 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:02,720 They just shift that codependency onto someone else. Yes. That's not good either. So let's move 1095 00:54:02,720 --> 00:54:06,720 on here to the budget. Sixty five million dollars. And I will say this movie obviously didn't cost 1096 00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:10,480 very much money. I mean, last week we talked about Super Mario Bros and that cost one hundred million 1097 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:16,960 dollars to make. So, you know, on one hand, I think, yes, thirty of that went to Nicolas Cage. 1098 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:22,800 Right. Exactly. Like there are parts of this movie that look really good. Like when Dracula is healing, 1099 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,080 I love all that practical stuff with the way he looks at the beginning of the film compared to 1100 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:32,240 what he looks like as he slowly starts to regain some of his powers. But the CGI blood is absolutely 1101 00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:37,680 horrific to the point where it's like it almost looks like an anime where like you cut someone's 1102 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:43,440 head off or you rip someone's arm off and it like spews out like a geyser. Like, but nobody's bloody. 1103 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:48,000 But no one's bloody. Yeah. Like even like at one point there's a there's a scene where you have 1104 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:54,720 Aquafina and Renfield basically going up against both the police force of New Orleans and Ted Word 1105 00:54:54,720 --> 00:55:00,800 and Bella Francisca's crew, whatever. And you've got people getting their arms ripped off and like 1106 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:06,880 heads blown off and like all these things. And at the end of it, you've got Aquafina and Renfield 1107 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:12,560 who are completely clean. They don't have any blood on them at all. Where he like drop kicks 1108 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:19,840 some dude in half over a railing and like blood is just like and he's like, OK, let's go get coffee. 1109 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:24,720 Yeah. Anyway, we'll get some coffee while we will be game plan. But so in the United and this is what 1110 00:55:24,720 --> 00:55:28,400 we're kind of talking about earlier, Aaron, in terms of like I wanted to ask you how big 1111 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:32,480 like the showing was for your for this for this movie in the United States and Canada. 1112 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:38,080 Renfield was projected to only earn about eight to ten million dollars around in around three 1113 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:42,080 thousand three hundred seventy five theaters in its opening weekend. Eight to ten million is not a 1114 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:46,880 lot of money. That's still probably finishing third or fourth at the box office. That's like a very 1115 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:52,320 you know, it's a very modest projection. Right. As of this recording, which is April 15th, Saturday. 1116 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:57,280 So we don't have the complete weekend projection. Renfield has only earned one point four million 1117 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:01,920 dollars at the box office. So in three days, it's only earned a million dollars. That is not great. 1118 00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:07,840 Not great. Meanwhile, the Super Mario Bros. leads the pack with one hundred and forty six point 1119 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:12,160 four million dollars in the second weekend. So and it's surpassed around five hundred million 1120 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:17,120 dollars already. So it'll probably be around six hundred and fifty million. So basically what we're 1121 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:22,800 saying is that Super Mario Bros, John Wick four and the exorcist, the exorcist pope or something, 1122 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,960 whatever that that horror film that it's going up against, these movies are all destroying 1123 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:31,760 Renfield right now. That was kind of our internal debate here. This little peek behind the curtain, 1124 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:36,240 little inside baseball for everybody at home. Aaron and I were like, yeah, I mean, we're excited 1125 00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:40,080 about this movie, but do we really want to cover on the show? Because who else is excited about 1126 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:44,080 this movie? Are we talking about a movie that no one else is seeing? And the answer is yes, 1127 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,880 no one else has seen this movie. So if you're listening this right now and you haven't seen 1128 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:51,360 Renfield, that's OK. I guess you're not alone. Yeah, you're not alone. The majority of people 1129 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:57,840 in the world also have not seen Renfield. Yeah, we're the one percent here. Seriously. So I think 1130 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:02,960 we've covered this movie pretty in depth. I mean, at the end of the day, we have, you know, Renfield 1131 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:09,120 and Awkwafina, who I got to talk about Awkwafina's characters a little. Yeah, let's you talk about it 1132 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:13,600 I think I kind of align with you as well. I didn't I didn't really love this movie. So it was a 1133 00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:20,160 completely unnecessary portion of the storyline to have to add in the whole like, well, they think 1134 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:25,760 about the hump. Will they won't they? Well, they will. They won't. They the mob killing her father, 1135 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:32,000 her sister being in the FBI, like they could have done it without so much of this. And it just felt 1136 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,920 like it was like they had to give her like an important storyline. I don't know. It just felt 1137 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:40,880 so stupid and shoehorned in there and also like it dragged the story. And that's what like really 1138 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,640 would be to a screeching halt every time you went back to. Yeah. Like you said, her sister, 1139 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:51,280 her dad or anything with Awkwafina at all. I would be like, God, come on. Whenever she is on screen, 1140 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:56,160 she walks around like she has scoliosis. Like, do you ever notice like she's like, 1141 00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,920 she has like kind of like a humpback a little bit. Yeah. It's like a critique on her. Yeah. 1142 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:07,360 But like Awkwafina is Awkwafina in every movie. That's who she is. Exactly. She's Will Smith. 1143 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:12,400 She's the rock. There are certain people when they go in, when they're in a movie, they Jamie Foxx, 1144 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,600 like, well, that feels kind of gross right now because Jamie Foxx actually just had a stroke. 1145 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,360 I don't know if you heard that, but generally when when these people are in a movie, they are 1146 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:23,760 just playing a version of themselves. Right. So that's Awkwafina in this movie. Yeah. And 1147 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:29,360 that's what was bothering me about it was because I just could not take her seriously. Like I can't 1148 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:35,360 take her serious. I can't take her as a this is not a hit on her being a female actress or anything. 1149 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:40,720 I think that she has moments where she is a very powerful actress. And that's when she is 1150 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:46,720 playing a confident role. Shang-Chi was a perfect example when she got into her own and she was in 1151 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,640 that that, you know, the alternate dimension in that in that city, like she was walking around, 1152 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,800 she was confident, she was shooting bows and arrows. She was proud of herself. That was awesome. But 1153 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,320 then they put her in a role like this, where she is like, I don't know, she just feels like she's 1154 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:02,880 like a beat down character. And she just walk around with her like, you know, bad posture. And 1155 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:08,880 she's like trying to be like her aggro character. And to me, it just doesn't fit into what she 1156 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:17,440 could be. Right. And so that's that is my, my, my critique for her character is that I feel like 1157 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:24,240 she could have been a more mature, better, like she could have been the the badass cop. They should 1158 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:28,400 have just given her a smaller role. But at this time, when this movie was initially coming out, 1159 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:33,600 I think this was announced and kind of just started to peak and going to production was around COVID. 1160 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:39,360 So Awkwafina was she had just got cast in Shang-Chi. Nora from Queens was very big. So like 1161 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:43,520 Awkwafina was starting to rise and they wanted to give her something to do in this movie. But 1162 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,960 honestly, they should have just lessened her role and put Nicholas Cage should have been on screen 1163 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:51,360 more. He has a lot to do in this movie, as does Nicholas Holt. But more of those two would have 1164 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:59,760 been fine with me. And then Shura Agdachlu as Bella Francesca, I was just completely like thrown off 1165 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:04,720 every time she spoke. I mean, I understand that she has to be like this very overbearing, like 1166 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:09,920 evil woman, but she has like this, I am the mother. Bring them to me. Bring them to me. 1167 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:17,280 Can't do that voice very much often. Yeah. But just like she has that deep grumbling voice. And 1168 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:21,520 like, to be honest, it would have been kind of cool if we would have found out when they saw each 1169 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:25,040 other that they were like long lost lovers or something. Yeah. Like she was a vampire this 1170 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:29,200 whole time as well. Yeah. Yeah. I would have been like, like that's something that I kind of expected 1171 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:33,280 when they first saw each other. Like she had that, they had this like interesting like look that they 1172 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:37,760 shared when they first met. So I was like, I was kind of excited about that. And what if Dracula was 1173 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:42,640 the father of Ted? Oh my God, how that would have been fucking awesome. Yeah, that would have been 1174 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:46,160 great. Like there was so much that could put us in Hollywood guys. We can come up with good ideas. 1175 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,680 There were so many good things that could have been done with this. And I just feel like a lot of 1176 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:55,200 it fell flat because they were trying to add in that route that like you said, like that, that 1177 01:00:55,200 --> 01:01:01,280 Aquafina that will they won't they type situation. So yeah, that's, that's my critique. Yeah. Let's 1178 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:06,720 go and get some fun facts here. So Captain Nemo, Superman and Dracula are three roles that Nicholas 1179 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:11,040 Cage has dreamt about playing since he started his acting career. He actually got to voice Superman 1180 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:16,400 and Teen Titans go that goes to the movies in 2018. Obviously he plays Dracula here. We also know 1181 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:21,280 that Nicholas Cage was going to play Superman at one point in the Justice League movie that didn't 1182 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:26,720 end up happening, but that's okay. We have Renfield syndrome, which is also known as clinical 1183 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:32,000 vampirism, a rare psychiatric disorder where an individual has an intense fascination with drinking 1184 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:36,560 blood and believing themselves to be a vampire. This syndrome is of course named after the character 1185 01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:42,240 R.M. Renfield from Brandon Stoker's novel Dracula, who consumed live insects to obtain their life 1186 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:47,360 force. We see that in this movie where in order for Renfield to get his powers, he has to consume 1187 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:51,120 life. And instead of consuming a human, which I kind of would have, I thought it would have been 1188 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:56,080 really cool. At one point he just consumed like a bad guy and it just turned him into a super saiyan. 1189 01:01:56,080 --> 01:02:00,800 Like he eats these little insects like spiders and ants, and it gives them ultimate power. What 1190 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:05,440 if he sucked the blood of a human one time and it just turned him into like as strong, if not 1191 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:10,560 stronger than Dracula? Well, that's what I would have liked to have actually seen. Because I was 1192 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:15,840 thinking about that because he was so much more powerful than those brand new familiars that first 1193 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,680 of all, I didn't realize that a vampire could create like multiple familiars, but I thought it 1194 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,840 would have been really cool if there was like some kind of discovery because there hadn't, there had 1195 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:28,720 never been like a familiar that had lived that long. Or maybe after a certain amount of time, 1196 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:34,640 like he could figure out like he draws his power from Dracula. Maybe he was able to break down 1197 01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:39,120 some barrier and take more power from him than he was giving him. Like there was so many like 1198 01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:44,240 directions that they could have gone that I thought would have been cool other than just him maybe, 1199 01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:49,680 I don't know, eating more bugs than the other guys. You know, I thought it was funny when 1200 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,720 Schwartz, when he, when he like sniffed that centipede and got the power. 1201 01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:02,400 Nicholas Holt played Nicolas Cage's son in 2005 as the weatherman. Holt has named Cage an inspiration 1202 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:07,680 for many different roles. Nicholas Holt and Nicolas Cage are inserted into footage from Dracula 1203 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:15,200 in 1931 to serve as flashbacks. We gave him the Kung Fury treatment. William, some snacks. 1204 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:23,360 Would you like an icy carbonated soda? My nipples look like milk duds. 1205 01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:30,560 Yes. William Ragsdale. Everybody, that's, those are quotes from Kung Fury. All right. 1206 01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:38,240 I'm coming. Who plays the elderly? William Ragsdale who plays the elderly priest is best 1207 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:44,960 known for playing Charlie Brewster in the Fright Night films. Nicholas Cage actually owns two 1208 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:50,400 European castles. He bought one for 10.2 million and the other for 2.3 million. Who knew that 1209 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:55,920 castles were that inexpensive? Right. And also, you know, Nicholas Cage is very notorious for 1210 01:03:55,920 --> 01:04:01,680 buying just the weirdest off the wall. Like he has put himself in debt, I think a couple of times, 1211 01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:05,920 because he just, I mean, at one point he had the highest graded version of action comics. Number 1212 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,840 one, I'm wearing a Superman shirt right now. Everybody I'm wearing the, the Fleischer 1930 1213 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:15,200 Superman logo shirt. At one point, Nicholas Cage owned, I think it was a 9.0 CGC action comics. 1214 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:19,200 Number one. And I think he eventually sold it, but yeah, that's the kind of shit that he buys. 1215 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:25,040 Yeah, he sold it to buy a castle. He bought a castle with it. So that'll do it for our review 1216 01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:29,120 of Renfield. I think we pretty much got our, our views out there and let's go and give our final 1217 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:33,520 thoughts here. And what are your final thoughts on Renfield? I wouldn't watch it again. No? Would you 1218 01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:37,760 recommend it? Would you recommend people go out to see it themselves? Not go out and see it. Wait 1219 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:42,080 till it, wait till it's streaming. Yeah. Did you have fun with it though? When you, when you went 1220 01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:46,400 to go see it? I tell, I'm telling you, I fell, I fell asleep. I did. So there were moments where I 1221 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:52,240 laughed and I enjoyed it. And I, again, I, my, my view has not changed on it since talking to you 1222 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:56,560 because a lot of the stuff that you, it's not like I realize anything is what I'm saying from this 1223 01:04:56,560 --> 01:05:00,080 discussion, which sometimes I do. Yeah, that happens sometimes. But all the stuff that we talked 1224 01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:04,560 about is how I felt in the, in the, in the theater. There were times where I laughed. I fell asleep at 1225 01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:12,720 one time. I cried. I didn't cry at all. I wept like a little boy. I wept, but no, like I just, I, 1226 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:17,120 I think that there was a lot of potential. I thought there was a lot of missed opportunities. 1227 01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:23,920 I thought there were some very entertaining and fun times. I just wish for more from this movie. 1228 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:28,880 Agreed. Yeah. I kind of feel a very similar way. I think it had the skeleton of a really 1229 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:34,720 interesting idea. I think Robert Kirkman and Ryan Reilly had something really interesting. They, 1230 01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:39,280 they picked correctly with Nicholas Cage and Nicholas Holt. I think there's a, some missed 1231 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:43,440 opportunities. We already talked about the Aquafina of it all. Like there you bench sports is great in 1232 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:47,680 this movie. There are, there are elements of a really good movie in this, in this, like not a 1233 01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:52,240 great movie, but a really, really good movie. And I just think they missed the mark on a couple places. 1234 01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:58,160 And we talked about those during this review. So I agree. I think it's something that had we had 1235 01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:02,080 literally anything else going on this week, this is fine. This is fine to admit now at the end of 1236 01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:06,640 the review, if we had anything else to do this week, we probably wouldn't have covered Renfield. 1237 01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,760 I think it's something that I would have seen eventually, but I probably wouldn't have went 1238 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:14,720 to the theater to see it. But that being said, I had fun with it. I think it is, I think it is a 1239 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:18,080 fun time at the theater. If you're, if you have already seen Super Mario Bros and you don't care 1240 01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:22,720 about John Wick, go see Renfield. Honestly, that's my, that's my honest suggestion. I think if you 1241 01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:28,080 just want to go see a fun kind of throw away comedy with Nicholas Cage turned up to 11, 1242 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:33,280 go see it. If you're a Nicholas Cage fan, absolutely go see it because I think you will get your money's 1243 01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:38,320 worth just from him. Right. So let's go and write this thing out of five David A. Weiner's, which 1244 01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:43,280 of course David A. Weiner is our director, producer, creator of In Search of Tomorrow, 1245 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:47,840 In Search of Darkness, the documentaries, those five hour long documentaries that we love so much. 1246 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,600 So Aaron out of five David A. Weiner's, what are you going to give Renfield? 1247 01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:57,760 I'm going to give it a 2.5. I feel like here recently, anytime that you have a rating, 1248 01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:03,520 I always give it like a 0.5 higher, but I already had 3.0 stuck in my head. So I'm going to, 1249 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:08,000 because I think again, like I just said, I will recommend this movie to Nicholas Cage fans 1250 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:13,440 and people that have not seen Super Mario Bros yet. So I'm going to give it a three. And I think 1251 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:18,160 it's right there. It's like barely recommendable for me. And I, and then we've always said that 1252 01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:22,640 like three is recommendable. Like that is, that's the cutoff. So yeah, I'm going to give it a three 1253 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:27,200 out of three out of five David A. Weiner's. So that'll do it for our review of Renfield. Let's 1254 01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:31,920 go ahead and get into my favorite segment of the show every single week. Aaron's arcade. 1255 01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,880 It's time for Aaron's arcade. 1256 01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,440 Welcome back to Aaron's arcade. 1257 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:54,720 Excuse me. I'm still reading Invincible. Hey everyone. Spoilers. I'm still reading this 130 1258 01:07:54,720 --> 01:08:00,720 issue series by Robert Kirkman and I still can't put it down. It's good. I still can't put it down. 1259 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:06,560 Like I am, I'm in it. I, and I've even like at what, like I'm obsessed. I think I'm obsessed. 1260 01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:11,040 I might have a problem. I'm so happy that you're doing this too, because this is a good, 1261 01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:14,800 I remember when you first started reading this, I was like, whoa, you know, I don't know. 1262 01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,760 I don't know if I wish you guys could see his face. 1263 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:22,960 Invincible is a tall glass, right? Like it's again, 130 issues of a story and you, 1264 01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:26,960 yeah, like it reads faster than 130 issues. I think it reads closer to like a hundred issues 1265 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:33,120 because there are some that are like, but I think so. But when you said that, I was like, man, 1266 01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,240 it's, it's a lot, but I'm so happy that you're enjoying this because if you can get through 1267 01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:40,240 Invincible, there's a lot of stories that you can get through. Yeah. That's a benchmark. 1268 01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:45,280 I'm excited to see what's next, but I am also like, I made a video about this. I'm excited to 1269 01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:51,840 see what's next, but I am also like, man, there's so much going on in this, in this story. 1270 01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,640 You remember what happened in the last issue? Do you remember what issue you're on? 1271 01:08:54,640 --> 01:09:00,560 Yes. So right now, Invincible has teamed up with Dinosaurus. 1272 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:05,520 Yes. It's so good. Cause Dinosaurus is like a total bad guy up to this point, right? 1273 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:11,840 Yeah. Yeah. We've met Throg, the Viltrumites, what are, what are left? I think he said 34, 1274 01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:19,840 them are on earth. Now, Alan just came to earth and tried to release a, a, a, was it virus? 1275 01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:27,360 A new virus. And, and I guess, uh, what's his name? Mark Invincible. He got, he was exposed to it. 1276 01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:31,680 I think that's the last thing I saw was the last frame was him starting to bleed from the ears. 1277 01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:36,880 Yeah. And so if you're, you haven't met Conquest then yet, right? Right. Oh, no, 1278 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:41,680 we're way past Conquest. Conquest is dead. Okay. I was gonna say Conquest, that, that part of the 1279 01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:47,280 story is my favorite. Yeah. Conquest, holy shit. And then he came back. Yes. But I do like the, 1280 01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:53,040 the Dinosaurus arc is also really good. And, um, I really like what happens with Alan and Mark 1281 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:57,200 going forward as well. Yeah. I'm, I'm curious to see how this, how this occurs. Cause right now, 1282 01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:04,720 and then you got, you got Oliver's grown up, man, he got his ass beat by, by Throg. Yep. Jesus. 1283 01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:11,200 That was so fucked up, but like there's, there's, there's so, we're spoiling season four of Invincible 1284 01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,880 right now. There's so much, by the time season four comes out, you'll forget this. Um, there's so much 1285 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:20,560 shit, like there's that one scene where like Throg just puts his hand like through, uh, no, was it 1286 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:25,520 Conquest just put his hand through, through Adam Eve at one point. I'm just like, that just keeps 1287 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,880 happening to people. Yeah. It literally keeps happening to you. They're just like, like hand 1288 01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:33,920 through the fucking like torso. And they keep living somehow. They keep living. And then, and 1289 01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:39,200 then Adam Eve was pregnant, which is crazy. And I know like, you know, I don't know, there's just, 1290 01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:43,920 there's so much to it. And I'm like, I, I feel like there's, I, I feel like I'm not far at all 1291 01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:49,040 in this story, but like, I also am excited to see what's next. Yeah. But it also doesn't feel like 1292 01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:55,280 there's very much left. Oh, trust me. There's a lot left to go, man. Yeah. So am I a terrible person? 1293 01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:59,040 Cause I haven't done anything else besides read Invincible. No, I think that's totally fine. Like 1294 01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,920 that's okay. We talked about a little bit before the show here. I think it's totally, when you get 1295 01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,520 into Invincible, you kind of have you like, you just dive into it. And it is one of those, 1296 01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:10,880 it's one of those stories that rewards upon just can like, once that issue ends, you go right into 1297 01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:15,440 the next one. Like it's so easy. It's just like saga the same way. Is Invincible done? It's done. 1298 01:11:15,440 --> 01:11:19,840 Yeah. They've, they've, they shut it down like 2012, I think is when the last issue came out. 1299 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:25,040 Okay. Okay. That's good to know. Last thing that I want to say real quick is, do you remember how 1300 01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:32,160 long ago Megacon was? Like three weeks ago, like three weeks ago, I submitted some stuff to CGC 1301 01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:39,520 and they tried to get it back. They tried to deliver it yesterday. Holy crap. CGC, man. That's 1302 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:43,680 awesome. They tried. So you got to go to the post office and pick it up because you got to get a 1303 01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:48,160 signature. I have to wait till fucking Monday. Well, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Cause we're recording 1304 01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:53,040 this on Saturday, April 15th, everybody. So yeah. Well, that's awesome though. Three weeks. That 1305 01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:57,600 turnaround is awesome. I'm so mad. Dude, you got your comics back in three weeks. Go to the post 1306 01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:02,560 office. Not a big deal. I'm so it's not, it's in Nashville. It's at the FedEx place. Oh, no 1307 01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:06,720 kidding. That does kind of, I can't go get it. Like I know. And that's the thing is like, there are 1308 01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:11,520 some amazing things that I just want to look at. And I have to wait two, like three, two and a half 1309 01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:15,360 more days now. That's what you have to everyone at home. If you've never gotten to CGC comic, 1310 01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:19,040 that's what you do to them. You just get it and look at it. Yeah. Display it somewhere. 1311 01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:23,200 I'm literally going to just like, I'm going to, I'm just going to look at it real hard. 1312 01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:31,200 I'm going to sleep with them in my bed. Man, I'm so excited. So like I'll stay tuned for a lot of 1313 01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:37,200 social media. Join the grid because we'll probably talk about it. Yes. I'm so I like I'm so excited, 1314 01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:42,640 yet so angry that I didn't get them yesterday that like I want to break something. Don't break 1315 01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:49,040 your CGC comics. You're going to have. I won't. OK. Saying that I feel better. Let's talk. Let's 1316 01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:54,800 talk about my favorite part of the show. Do you know what that is, Chris? No, what is it? 1317 01:12:54,800 --> 01:13:01,040 It's Chris's Corner. It's time for. For this is quarter. 1318 01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:11,440 How good was that transition? Oh, man, it was spot on. It's almost like we could finish each other's 1319 01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:17,200 semi colons. That's what I was going to say this week for Chris's Corner. We're going to be talking 1320 01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:21,600 about Arcade Kings number one, and I actually have a co-host for this segment. Arcade Kings 1321 01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:25,520 number one is written and illustrated by Dylan Burnett. This is a new prestige comic coming out 1322 01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:31,440 from Skybound, and it actually does not come out until May 17th. And so we got to see it a month 1323 01:13:31,440 --> 01:13:36,800 early. Thank you, Skybound for giving us an early preview of this book. And this is a story that 1324 01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:42,320 introduces us to a character named Joe, who is this mysterious new face in Infinity City, who has 1325 01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:47,360 suddenly become the hottest new player at Roundhouse Arcade. Anyone can challenge him, but no one can 1326 01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:53,120 win. Joe's secret pass is about to catch up to him when his most formidable challenge rolls yet into 1327 01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:59,200 town, forcing Joe to combo his powers with his joystick, his fist and is fighting for his family's 1328 01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:05,920 legacy. So this comic, I feel like was curated for people like you and I who love just who really 1329 01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:12,000 enjoyed the era of arcades. And Dylan Burnett is the artist from the Cosmic Ghost Rider, 1330 01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:16,240 destroys the Marvel Universe storyline. And I remember seeing his art and that was like, 1331 01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:20,720 man, this is awesome. So when this story, when we eventually got a preview for this, I was like, 1332 01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:26,480 yeah, I'm in and really, really enjoyed this first issue. It is again, it's prestige. It's a, I think 1333 01:14:26,480 --> 01:14:32,800 it's 45 pages instead of the normal, like 28. So it's a lot of comic 799 when it eventually comes 1334 01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:36,880 out. So it's a little pricier than normal, but this is worth it. In my opinion, it's awesome. 1335 01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:41,840 Really enjoyed very much Scott Pilgrim vibes. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. It's a lot of like about 1336 01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:47,520 like there is fighting in this story, but it's like, meet me at the arcades, meet me at that arcade. 1337 01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:51,600 And this we're really going to throw down type of deal. Like you're even wearing a street fighter 1338 01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:55,920 number two shirt right now. And back in the day, that's how you handled arguments. If you want to 1339 01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:02,480 settle a thing, Hey, TMNT, let's do it right now versus Capcom, bitch. Yeah, let's do the Capcom too. 1340 01:15:02,480 --> 01:15:09,280 Yeah. Shot shotgun Wolverine, Dr. Doom and Mega Man. Let's do this thing. Right. So arcade kings, 1341 01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:12,400 Aaron, I'll let you, I'll hand it off to you if you want to say something, but I really enjoyed 1342 01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,680 it and I highly recommend it. Once again, it comes out May 17th, so go check it out at your 1343 01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:20,720 local comic book shop when it comes out. Yeah. So I really enjoyed this one from, from, I remember 1344 01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:25,840 seeing the email about this upcoming title a while ago and I'm like, man, yeah, add that to my list. 1345 01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:31,040 I'm super excited for it. And I'm glad that I did. And I'm glad that it's going to stay on my list, 1346 01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:39,440 even though I've already read it because the art in this is so exciting and like colorful and, and 1347 01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:45,680 I want to call it like gritty. Yeah. But it's just, it's, it's, it's dynamic. It's gritty. It's, 1348 01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:50,800 and it's just, if you like, Animes like kill a kill, if you like Animes where they literally 1349 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:55,840 get into like street fights and it's just insane, like action. If you like fighting games, if you're, 1350 01:15:55,840 --> 01:16:00,640 if you're a smash brothers fan, if you anything like that, this is the comic for you. And this is 1351 01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:06,240 a great way to start because again, two, I think it's two issues in their prestige. So, so again, 1352 01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:11,600 longer, basically you're, you're looking at like a two volume. It's like four issues normally. Yeah. 1353 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:15,520 Yeah. Yeah. And so it's not a long read, but it's going to be a fun read. And I think that it's going 1354 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,560 to, you're going to get a lot of entertainment value out of it. And you're going to like the 1355 01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:22,800 details and kind of the references of it. So, and this comic kind of reads very similar, like we 1356 01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:26,960 were saying earlier with like invincible, like it reads quickly because it's a lot of art. It's not 1357 01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:32,480 super wordy. Dylan does a lot with his art. He says a lot with like his act with his panels. 1358 01:16:32,480 --> 01:16:37,440 And I think that's really cool. So that's what I was going to say. Pan, like the panels are not your, 1359 01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:42,320 your general like same, like six panel pages where you're going to get like, like you're getting like 1360 01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:48,000 pages with like 19 panels. And it's just like a combo move, you know, it's so much fun. It's all 1361 01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:52,240 very kinetic and just very high energy. It's awesome. So once again, arcade Kings, number one, 1362 01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:56,320 go check it out when it eventually comes out in May. And that'll do it for Chris's corner, Aaron, 1363 01:16:56,320 --> 01:17:01,120 that'll do it for the oblivion bar episode one 15. We've done it once again. And people at home, 1364 01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:05,840 if you're listening right now, let me tell you, we have no idea what we're doing for episode one 16, 1365 01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:10,160 because as you, if you remember at the end of episode one 14, we were supposed to have 1366 01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:15,920 the one and only Kevin Smith on the show. He unfortunately had to reschedule and we're trying 1367 01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:19,840 to stay water. We're trying to stay flexible. We're trying to figure out if we can get him on 1368 01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:26,080 the show for this next week. If we can, he will be one, he will be episode one 16. If he cannot 1369 01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:30,000 Aaron and I will find something else to do for episode one 16 and we will keep you up to date. 1370 01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:35,520 Once we figure that out. So here's hoping that we can get Kevin on the show. This is no ill will 1371 01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:39,760 towards him. Obviously we know he's a very busy man. He's, we actually talk about it. A lot of 1372 01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:44,000 our questions that we have for him deal with him just being all over the place all the time. 1373 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:50,160 All the time. He's always doing something. So if we can get him on the show, of course we will, 1374 01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:54,560 but we'll let everyone know as soon as we know, but that'll do it for episode one 15, Aaron, 1375 01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:59,280 go ahead and go ahead and take us out of here. Okay, honey. Subscribe to our podcast app, 1376 01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:06,400 Apple podcast, Amazon music, and I heart radio. 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Uh, it's your, your, your support is tax 1391 01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:24,640 deductible and it just goes, it means the world to the veterans and everybody that, that we help. 1392 01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:29,440 So thank you. Yeah. I go support shred the stress. And also Aaron, I didn't mention this earlier. I 1393 01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:35,600 just, I just reminded myself happy birthday to the oblivion bar. Third birthday is tomorrow. So yes, 1394 01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:41,680 yes. April 16th. So I have it on my calendar. Yep. It's our third birthday, our third birthday. 1395 01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:47,920 We'll, we'll post about it tomorrow on Thursday, the third day. Yep. Yeah. So dog years we're 21 1396 01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:52,160 or no, is it, is it, we'll be 21 years old tomorrow, right? Dog years. Yep. Every seven 1397 01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:59,520 years. Yeah. So happy birthday to us. One, you know, 115 episodes later, uh, 80 episodes of the 1398 01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:04,320 grid where to keep chugging along, keep it going. We're going to keep on keeping on. That's right. 1399 01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:08,720 Thank you guys so much for listening to the oblivion bar podcast. We, we really do appreciate 1400 01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:13,520 it. And we will see you next week for episode one 16.