MOVIE REVIEW: Sonic the Hedgehog 3

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Hey, this is Scott Snyder, the writer of American Vampire, Barnstormers, Witches, White Boat, and Batman, lots of other comics, and you are listening to the best comic podcasts around, the Oblivion Bar podcast.

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Welcome to the Oblivion Bar podcast with your host, Chris Hacker and Aaron Norris.

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Welcome to episode 178 of the Oblivion Bar podcast.

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I'm your swarm protector of the master emerald and super literal echidna Chris Hacker.

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And joining me is last month's gun employee of the month, my co-host and BFF Aaron Knowles.

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You know what, Chris?

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What?

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I'm just going to admit it.

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You're adorable.

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Welcome back, everybody, to the Oblivion Bar podcast this week.

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As Aaron alluded to there just a moment ago, we are talking, I guess we both were sort of alluding to it in our opening.

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But point being is that we are covering the last installment in the Sonic franchise.

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mark?

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Yeah, or yeah.

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mean, I think we'll get into it.

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The latest?

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Yeah, I guess the third.

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Usually, know, usually a trilogy is the ending of a franchise, but one would wish spoilers for Aaron's thoughts on Sonic 3.

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Aaron, we have covered every single installment of the Sonic franchise here on the Oblivion Bar podcast.

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I think that's the first one.

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Has there been any other movie that we've had that opportunity?

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I don't think so.

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think if you don't count like the MCU and things like that, that are just sort of again, continuously running.

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I think Sonic is the only franchise that we've covered every entry of thus far.

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And then this is, this is where you insert the sad music after he dies.

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I can do that.

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I can definitely do that post.

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So everybody again, Aaron, what a movie.

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Firstly, I don't want to get into it too much here in the beginning, but I think what's more interesting And again, we'll talk about more here during our main topic.

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We have a big, big piece of news to cover this week on the show is sort of basically the actual environment that I was in while watching Sonic three.

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Judging by your side, you also had a similar environment.

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I could.

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I think the listener can as well.

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But also what it means for the future, what it means for culture, as we say often here on the Oblivion Bar podcast, we are sort of slaves to pop culture and turn your culture and to all things IP, but there are certain things that I feel like this film has pretty much solidified for culture and for nerd culture going forward.

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I'm just going to say this.

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OK, if there was ever an external reason for me to want to quit doing this show, it was going to see this movie.

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And I'm not saying that about the movie.

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I'm just saying the experience of going to the movie before we get into our news and notes.

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This is our second to last show of the year.

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You know, I didn't imagine that we would be covering Craven the Hunter and Sonic three as our last two episodes of the year before we get into our last call awards, which is always our last episode of the year.

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Excited to eventually bring that to everybody.

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But I just want to kind of briefly talk about twenty twenty four as a whole.

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You know, we've been doing the show for exactly what it was.

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Yeah.

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What a year, everybody.

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What a whole.

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What a whole of a year.

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This has been an interesting year for not only the Oblivion Bar, but also us in real life.

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Yeah, just real life in general for all of us.

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But I will say like from the O.B.P.

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standpoint standpoint of it all.

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This has been a good year.

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You know, we got we had a chance to completely rebrand the show through all of the fire and flames of what this year had brought to us.

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We had a chance to interview a ton of amazing creators, including Brian K.

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Vaughn being one of those.

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I want to give him a special shout out because that was like a a benchmark for our show's history.

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And we've grown just as a show in general.

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think we've sort of solidified not only through con going with New York Comic Con, San Diego Comic Con, the many cons that we go to.

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We sort of solidified ourselves as I would say.

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And I mean this respectfully and humbly, a premier comic book movie, television, anime, nerd culture podcast.

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Aaron Harumph.

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We have done it, everybody.

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God damn it.

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We did it.

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What are your thoughts on 2024 Aaron?

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is it?

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What's one thing that you're super proud of from us this year?

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And then what's something that you want to accomplish for us in 2025?

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I feel like this is really the first year and this is going to be a little bit of inside baseball, which I don't get a chance to use that that term.

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You're welcome for that.

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For that.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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This year has been, I think, probably our most like comrade comraderick.

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camaraderie film.

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But I get it.

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I get what saying.

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You know what mean?

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Like, I think that this year honestly has been the year that we like there was not a single time where either of us was really like fed up with each other.

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know, there's been some times.

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Why are you laughing?

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I'm just laughing because you're so right.

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It's because every other year of the Oblivion Bar podcast, whether the listeners know it or not, we have we have often like butted heads at certain points in the year behind the scenes and like a sort of a loving you know, respectful way, never like angry or whatever, but yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think that that gives us that this year has really been behind the scenes.

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Like we're kind of like rehashing out some things to make sure things are less on your shoulders, more on mine.

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You know, we're coming back after the break.

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We're coming back after, you know, you're coming back after your second round of chemo.

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You know, I think that this year was definitely a year for us to come together closer as friends and to come back better and not even leave as like less than better, like friends or co-hosts.

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But I think that together, like we've done a lot together to make this show better, despite how much stress that you and I have gone through this year, like individually.

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So for me, that's like, I reflect on this year as being a really like...

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Kind of like there's a lot of personal stress, like individual stress, know, stress with like my move, with retiring, with the job hunt, with financial stuff.

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Like there's been a lot of stuff just individually that I've gone through and also like health-wise and then also the same for you.

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Like you've been going through a lot, you know, new relationships and trips and work and a new, like responsibilities in your job.

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And it's just like, it's been like a crazy year and I don't mean to drone on, but I'm just really proud of us.

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for the progress that we've made individually and together.

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I completely agree.

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And I think to sort of put a cap on this fart sniffing that we're doing right now, think it's the oblivion bar was 2024 was the year for the oblivion bar to, we've always said that we want to level up the show, but I think we finally, finally everybody hit a standard that like someone who I think an Aaron, I think you would agree.

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Maybe the listener would agree as well.

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I have, I do not have the ability to be happy in like what we do with the show.

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I'm always like trying to push us to the next level.

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Like if we do the thing that we've been shooting for, it's not good enough because there's another thing that we need to still do.

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And there's three other things behind that as well.

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But I think this year was the first year that we finally got comfortable in our scenario, our priorities with the show, again, our standard with the show.

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I'm very proud of all of that.

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And I think again, as we'll continue to do, we'll continue to make the show better every year.

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But if the show, and I mean this like, I'm going to say all this everybody, but also Just remember that we're going to continue to get better.

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If the show never got better than it is right now, I would be completely happy with the Oblivion bar.

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Like we are fucking lie.

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That is such a lie.

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That is such a lie.

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I love I love the quality we're at right now is what I'm trying to say.

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Yes, it's all really good.

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You are you you are accepting of the quality, but you will never accept you wouldn't accept this as as what we would be.

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You know what I mean?

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Yeah, we just hit like level seven or eight.

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You know if we were like Kakuna, know, like like like like Caterpie going into Kakuna Pokemon reference here we go So yeah, that's like that's where we're at, you know what I mean?

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So I think that there is a lot to say when it comes to Where we're at, but I don't think that either of us needs to be appeased.

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know at this level.

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Yeah, absolutely The comfortability is just it's it's sort of a fun new feeling with the show.

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again, as we just said, we will continue to get better.

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And I think the best way to get better, Aaron, here's a nice transition for you is with your support, everybody, as you guys listen to the show, a free way to help the show is to, of course, follow it, listen to it if you can, if you'd be so kind, you know, to help us listen to the show, but also follow us on social media at a Blivion bar pod and all the platforms and then, you know, rating reviews on Apple podcasts, Spotify, those are free.

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easy ways to help the show if you haven't already.

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But if you want to take that next step, if you want to, I mean, really love the Oblivion Bar, if you love this Tom Fuller that we give you each week, guess what everybody, we have a way to make it even better.

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And that's over on Patreon, patreon.com forward slash Oblivion Bar Pod for your support over there, Aaron, you could get access to The Grid, our weekly bonus podcast, where essentially what you've just consumed over the last eight minutes on the show here, you get that every week.

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It is just frontal lobe stream of consciousness.

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Aaron, I thought you're talking about all the bullshit right here.

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Yes.

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Whether it's relationships, mental health games were playing comics or reading movies that we didn't want to cover on the show.

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Yeah, there's a ton of stuff.

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So it's a it's a great behind the scenes.

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It's a great unfiltered, unformatted, X-rated, X-rated, unrated, formatted show, unformatted show.

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So there's a lot to it.

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That's right.

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And they don't only just get the grid over there on Patreon, they also get behind the scenes look behind the scenes looks at how we prepare the show with our episode transcripts.

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What we're using right now for this episode of Sonic.

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You get that over there on Patreon, Patreon polls as well.

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And you also get a whole bunch of exclusive goodies, merch, stickers, comics, all types of things.

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So go get a shot over with a seven day free trial, patreon.com forward slash oblivion bar pod or check out the link in our show notes.

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Let's go and get into our news and notes.

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and notes.

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my God, what's that?

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Is that a bird?

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Is that a plane?

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It's Superman.

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Chris, amazingly enough, and it's funny, you actually texted me as like in the middle of watching because you don't think that I have my finger on the pulse of society.

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I should have never second guessed you should never have second guessed me.

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But I was watching the teaser trailer for James Gunn's.

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Superman.

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Now, is this movie going to be called James Gunn's Superman?

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Or is it just going to be Superman?

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Because there's no way around it.

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If you see the word Superman on Twitter, on Instagram, the Internet anywhere, it's going to say James Gunn's Superman.

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So I feel like they should just change the title to that.

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But after being teased for months on social media by James Gunn, the full teaser revealed what we can look forward to when Superman releases in theaters July 11th.

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2025 and I don't know about you Chris, but I was on the edge of my adult size seat on your your red trunks in my red trunks.

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You're peeing your little your little red trunks while watching.

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I was like, which are outside of my pants.

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I was on the edge of my seat.

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Yeah.

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So let's let me let's get into it during the during the trailer.

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Not only we do we see DC's new look for David Cornswede Superman who replaced former Man of Steel Henry Cavill, which I mean, Can we pour one out really quick for Henry?

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I not his fault, everybody.

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An incredible rendition for what I mean, I'm going to say surface level rendition of Superman.

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Not my favorite iteration of the Man of Steel, but Henry, not his fault.

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One hundred percent.

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Not his deal that lies with the director and the creative forces over at Warner Brothers in D.C.

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I owe you Superman.

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I thought he I just thought of him as Wolverine, but his bumbling alter ego Clark Kent, which Again, Clark Kent is like seven feet tall in this movie when you see him walking wildly taller than I saw.

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He's a reporter for the newspaper, The Daily Planet.

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We also see a few shots of Nicholas Holt as Lex Luthor, a romantic love scene within love interest Lois Lane, Rachel Brosnahan in front of a big glowy ball in the background with little like laser.

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What do think that ball is, by the way, real quick?

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I was I mean, I don't know.

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I was thinking it was something to do with like Brainiac.

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I was thinking it had something to do with There's so many things like I...

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We'll get into that in a second.

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So, and at one point we see Crypto, which I already love Crypto.

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I'm a dog lover just in general, but Crypto is so adorable.

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But he comes to the rescue of Superman who's just like wheezing in the ice.

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Gunn has said that Crypto is based on his real life dog, Ozu, who was problematic to say the least after initially adopted him during the filming of the film.

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And then throughout the trailer, if you listen closely, this is one thing that I loved.

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Not only do they I feel like they're using like the iconic kind of font of the original like Superman's when we see the lettering and the stuff on the what do call it?

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Like just the fonts on screen.

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Yeah.

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There's a there's a hint of John Williams's iconic score from director Richard Donner's 1978 Superman, which new composer John Murphy incorporates into his newly original score as basically a nostalgic callback, which is what we need, which is a respectable tip of the cap.

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I think we should just go ahead and say for the rest of time, even though that 1978 theme is for Richard Donard Superman, the movie, as you said a moment ago, a lot of people think this is just going to be called James Gunn's Superman.

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This is the first movie in Superman's history to just be called Superman because that movie was called Superman, the movie.

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So I to go back to my original point, we should just use this theme for Superman going forward.

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John Williams score.

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is so intrinsically tied to the character and in the most important ways.

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When I hear that theme, it's like with I would say, like in a very similar way, Indiana Jones or Star Wars for the rest of time.

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I mean, when those movies are made, regardless of who's playing the titular characters, those themes should be attached to the character in some way or another, whether it be like a rendition or of some sort, the core of that, those scores should be the same.

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Agreed.

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Absolutely agreed.

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And then compared to DC's last Superman reboot, 2013's Man of Steel, 2025 Superman seems like an altered altogether more optimistic prospect.

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The darkness injected by that film's director, Zack Snyder, is replaced with blue skies and hope.

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And you can you can absolutely see this during the trailer with brighter colors, know, the less heavier tones, the blues, the reds, the yellows, they're all right in your face.

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Yes.

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I'm gonna get to the end of this because I know we can stop in the middle if you want to sort of chat about all this stuff.

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Okay, fine.

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I just want to say this.

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I want to say that this movie, okay, there's a lot going on and it almost feels like it's going to be what do call it when you're like when you're put like into a class like a crash course in Superman like this movie feels like it's gonna be like a crash course in Superman because we see robots we see many heroes already.

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see, we're going to talk about more.

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We see many people, we see many villains.

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see like there is just a slew of, of iconic things going on in this teaser trailer.

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And as excited as I am, because honestly, this trailer or this teaser did not evoke any sense of like dread.

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It was like, like, like it says it was all blue skies and hope.

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And I'm just, I don't know.

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Like it's like, like what could go wrong.

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We're in a day and age where when you see a trailer that's good, you're like, fuck.

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Yeah.

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Like that was good.

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You know, remember when we were talking about our most anticipated films of twenty twenty five and I said, and I uttered these actual words, it is impossible for this movie to be bad.

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James Gunn is so into the lore of Superman.

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He would not take on not only his role as co-CEO of DC Studios, but also the director of this film, Creature Commandos Peacemaker again, still like he is so in love with this universe.

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that I find it almost nearly impossible that this movie won't be at the bare minimum good.

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Could be great, honestly.

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And I want to go back just a little bit though, Aaron.

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We had a comparison here between, and we don't need to compare the Snyderverse to this, but I'm just curious as someone who's like relatively, I would say newish into the comic world, someone who loves these characters, but is not like so intrinsically tied to the comics medium with the character of Superman like I am.

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What do you prefer?

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What did you like better?

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Do you like this sort of new look?

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This might be an unfair question, too, because we haven't seen the movie.

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But like just based on the trailer, do you like Henry Cavill's sort of and Zack Snyder's sort of darker rendition?

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Or do you like this more hopeful sort of hokey almost campy look at the Man of Steel?

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This is going to be hard for me.

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And I don't know if I can honestly answer this until I see this movie, because going back in the Christopher Reeves, which is like Superman, which is what I grew up on.

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always loved like his suit, the naturalness of him.

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just the sheer like portrayal of Clark Kent and Kal-El from, you know, Christopher Reeves.

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A friend.

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was amazing.

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I don't remember the other guy who played it in the return of Superman or whatever.

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I did not really like that.

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I did.

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Okay.

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Which is supposed to be Christopher Reeves as Superman, by the way.

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It's supposed to be.

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just I the Snyder verse is itself a darker drearier, less hopeful universe.

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Let's just say that's what it is.

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is a somewhat say worse universe.

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I'm just going to call it a different universe.

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Worse, maybe.

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again, but yeah, that's the difference.

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You as somebody who is like very well versed in all that is Superman and love what he is as far as the symbolism, the hope, the love, the brightness, the blue skies and hope as we keep referring to.

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Like that's your growth.

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and your ground and your foundation of Superman for the majority of your life.

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Again, I grew up on just Christopher Reeves as a Superman.

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I remember him in, I want to say it was Superman 2 when he loses his powers and it's like a very negative, like sad movie.

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I might have been three actually, if I remember I think it might have been three.

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But like, so I've seen like the struggle, you know, of those, of those like almost human concepts from a super, from an Ubermensch in human society.

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So for me, it's I look at all these as again, different universes and they all have potential for what they are and who they are.

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So I'm excited for this one.

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I still am not super sold on David.

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sweat all over.

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You like that haircut.

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You like that Gen Z haircut.

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Man, we're to fucking move on.

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But I'm excited for the movie.

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What about Rachel Brosnan?

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I think she's a I mean, very, very attractive, also great actor, but just also just Lois Lane is a sort of a difficult character to capture correctly on screen because she is like the news reporter in the DC universe.

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She is extremely smart.

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And I feel like a lot of times she gets sort of cornered in this love interest slash MacGuffin for Superman to save constantly, which does happen in the comic sometimes.

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But for the most part, she can handle her own and has interesting things to do in that universe within Metropolis and within the daily planet, which we get to see in this trailer.

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We get the big globe again, which we should.

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You know it which is incredible.

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So I'm just excited for all of this Jimmy Olsen.

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We see again.

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We'll get into it Aaron Why don't you continue on the comment on Rachel Brosnahan?

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Because if I'm not wrong She played the lead in the that was it the the talent was it mrs.

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Mabel?

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Yeah on Amazon and I think she did a fabulous job as that character so she can definitely hold her own on screen I've seen her more like stand on her own in comics than I have in film and so it's good to see when she's not constantly the damsel in distress, peach to the King Bowser, you know, kidnap.

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But yeah, so like I'm looking forward to seeing her portrayal of the iconic, the also iconic Lois Lane.

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But according to James Gunn, he said, David said something to me that really affected me.

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Superman wants kids to not be afraid of him.

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He's an alien.

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He's this incredibly powerful.

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could be considered a scary individual and he wants people to like him.

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He wants to be a symbol of hope and positivity.

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So he dresses like a professional wrestler.

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He dresses in a way that makes people unafraid of him and that shows that.

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let's talk about some other stuff that we see in this trailer because again, this is one of those ones where you're going to see plenty of breakdowns on YouTube online.

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And so let's let's just give like an initial breakdown from the oblivion bar pod.

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Yeah.

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So in the trailer, of course, we get a look at Hawkgirl.

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This is being played by Isabella Murchon, who we last saw in, I want to say Madame Webb, but she's also in she's in Transformers as well.

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She was in Alien Romulus.

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Like she's been she's the one who's pregnant with the with the Xenomorph half man, half Xenomorph.

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It's a baby.

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Looked like one of the what do they call the engineers from Prometheus?

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Yes.

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So she's she's firmly planting her flag in the nerd verse.

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And I think also Dora for all you weirdos out there.

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She was also in the last of us as well.

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So she's she's doing a lot of things in the nerd world.

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I like what we're seeing here from Hot Girl.

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Very small bit that we see of her.

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She soars through Metropolis, the Metropolis skyline wielding her signature mace.

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While we saw Hawkman in twenty twenty two's Black Adam, which Aaron loves and said was the best movie of twenty twenty two.

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Correct.

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You get the fuck out of here.

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We also this is the first time that we've ever seen Hawkgirl in live action.

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Now, we don't know if this is we don't know if this is Kendra Saunders, who is, I would say, probably the most popular version of a Hawkgirl.

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But the other year, I don't know if you know anything about Hawkman and Hawkgirl's backstory, not only just like as like an entity, as like, you know, Canon, quote unquote, but just like you in comedy here.

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What I know.

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What do know?

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What do know?

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I know that they were a couple.

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way back in ancient history.

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And at least in one of the timelines that this is what I have for, they basically were together and then they were cursed.

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they're like, they just constantly are, what do call it?

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Reincarnated and they have to like find each other.

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So if one dies and the other one gets reincarnated and they have to like stick around and try and figure that whole awkwardness thing out, hawkwardness.

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you remember who is cursing them?

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Do you remember the person?

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I want to say it's what's his name?

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They saw him in Wonder Woman number two played by Pedro Pascal.

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Wait, what?

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That was supposed to be Maxwell Lord.

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Maxwell Lord is the one who cursed them.

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I'm pretty sure I could double check that.

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and go the next person.

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It's the guy like he's once you say his name, if you look it up and you say his name, I'll tell you he's like the guy.

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I fucking he's like a savage.

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Randall Savage.

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You're right.

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Actually, I apologize.

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You're so right.

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I damn it.

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Damn it, I got it right.

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Yeah, that's correct.

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Good job.

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But Maxwell Lord is being played by Sean Gunn in this universe.

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That's why I don't know.

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I got it mixed up in my head, but you're totally right.

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Yeah, it was a Vandal Savage.

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So, Aaron, go into the next one here.

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All right.

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This is exciting.

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Firstly, I love the picture that you put in here.

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Yes.

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Eric, I'm Nathan Fillion plays Guy Gardner with stupid.

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It's bulk.

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Aka our first green lantern in the DCU and the trailer guy is his ring to keep a door.

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That's that's a good use of it to keep a door closed from a bang mob after they're shown targeting Superman.

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One angry mob mob member.

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even throws a cup.

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And I have a problem with this, but like throws a cup at Superman's head.

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Yeah.

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Guy first premiered in the comics in Green Lantern number 59, which was released in March of 1968 and was created by writer John Broom and artist Gil Kane.

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Now you tell me this, Chris, if you're a super powerful Bing and somebody throws a little can of soda at your head, are you going to notice that shit?

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I think it's just important to realize that he probably didn't know that it was coming.

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It probably just startled him a little bit.

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But I agree.

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I was wondering if maybe it would just bounce off his head like boink.

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But yeah, he sort of a little wince.

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It's like he like blinks out.

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He doesn't even wince.

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He doesn't like doesn't do anything to him.

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But yeah, it was it was sort of funny.

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But to get back to Guy Gardner, what do you know about Guy Gardner in the cop?

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Do you know anything about him like as a character outside of his silly ass haircut?

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Nothing.

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I know nothing about him.

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OK, I'm going to give you a brief quick overview.

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And I don't know everything about Guy Gardner outside the fact that he's in Justice League International and Aaron.

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He's a huge douche bag, one of the biggest idiots in the DC universe.

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He is essentially everyone's little brother in this universe.

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Whereas anytime some shit is getting stirred up, Guy Gardner wants to be in the middle of it.

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He is he wants to essentially swing with the big guys, even though he is sort of an insecure dumbass.

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Like he is literally the most annoying character in comics, but he does have like some redeeming moments here and there where he'll like put his ego aside for a moment and then help everybody out.

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So I want to sort of compare him like in a very loose way personality wise.

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I'll say as like Namor over in Marvel, whereas like his ego is so inflated and terrible that like a lot of times he sort of borders on the line of a villain in a way because he just always is stirring shit up.

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The only reason I possibly like him is because of some of the looks that I've seen him with where he has like this like vest.

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Yeah, he has the white sort of the white vest.

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I think a green vest with like black sleeves and white.

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white gloves.

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I think that that's a badass look, but he doesn't have this stupid haircut like he's got in some of them.

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He's got like this interesting like where it's like shaved on the side.

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He's got like a kind of like a little bit of a he's got like bangs going all the way around.

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Yeah, you're thinking of his 80s look.

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That's exactly what he looks like in the 80s.

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Yeah.

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So after after Justice League International.

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Yeah, this is a dumbass look.

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Yeah, I'm interested to see Nathan Fillion, of course, is good friends with James Gunn.

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So it made sense that he was going to be in this universe.

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You want to get into the next guy, which I'm excited for?

00:27:26.651 --> 00:27:26.980
Yes.

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Yes.

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You want to go over it since you're excited?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So, Edie Cathigui's, I don't know if that's how you say it.

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That's correct.

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Yeah.

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Mr.

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Terrific has revealed in a tantalizing shot of him using his powers to summon a force field and repel an attack.

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writer John Ostrander and artist Tom Mandrake created Mr.

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Terrific in Spectre number 54 came coming out in June, 1997.

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We'll see Michael Holt use a combination of invisibility, super tech, superior technology, his genius level intellect.

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And I don't know if you know this, Chris, but Michael Holt is considered often to be the third smartest person in the universe and the DC universe behind Bruce Wayne and Lex Luthor.

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Mm hmm.

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This is exciting.

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I also really love Mr.

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Terrific.

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He I'm excited for Edie to get another shot at a superhero, because if you remember Aaron, I don't know if you recognize the name.

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He is Darwin.

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in X-Men First Class.

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He gets blown up from the inside.

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Yes, I recognize him very well because he in my opinion, he was the that was the most unnecessary, like ridiculous death.

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Like it just made zero sense.

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Biggest plot hole in First Class.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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That was super annoying.

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And then Mr.

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Terrific.

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I have a theory about Mr.

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Terrific.

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We'll get back to it because it's based on the next couple of characters that we're going to talk about.

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I have a theory because some people think that James Gunn and the powers that be at the DC studios are creating what is essentially going to become Justice League International or maybe that's who is the team that we see Green Lantern, Hawkgirl, Mr.

00:29:01.210 --> 00:29:03.970
Terrific, other characters in this movie.

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I think they're setting up another team.

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ahead.

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Actually go on to the next guy.

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I'll get to it here in a bit.

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I don't know if you watched any like I know we've kind of talked about a little bit the CW shows because Mr.

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Terrific.

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Was in the CW shows and he was pretty good in there.

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Yeah, so I did like his the betrayal of Mr.

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Terrific in there So Anthony Carrigan also so this okay, I'm gonna throw this out there metamorpho is One of the earliest villains that I have like a recognition from or of for the DC universe because I used to watch these old cartoons of you Superman and Thor and metamorpho Was that his name metamorpho?

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I want to say but that basically he's the guy that has all the different elements and and Yeah, so we'll talk about him in a second.

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anyways, Anthony Kerrigan plays the shapeshifting Rex Mason, aka a man turned into a mass of chemicals after being cursed by an ancient artifact metamorpho.

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At least that's how he's introduced in 1965's The Brave and the Bold by writer Bob Haney and artist Ramona Frayden.

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Hyperelasticity and elemental transmutation are his core powers.

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And I just remember like whatever he touched, he could kind of transmit his body into that.

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And that gave him the ability to like basically just kick ass.

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What do you are you familiar with Anthony his work?

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I'm familiar just based on his work in Barry.

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He was no ho in that series.

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You ever watch Barry?

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I did watch Barry.

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Anthony Carrigan's been in so many things and he's he has so much range.

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It's like it's crazy how much rage he has.

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He was in Bill and Ted face the music as well.

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I really enjoyed him in Gotham.

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He was Victor's as that.

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Yeah, Victor's as and I just the guy's got range.

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It's crazy.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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He's also going to be in an in a movie that I'm excited about next year.

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Death of the Unicorn, by the way.

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Yes, that's right.

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We just got that trailer.

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A 24 with Paul Rudd and who else?

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Who else was in it?

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It was a Wednesday.

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What's her name?

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Wednesday.

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Jenna Ortega.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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All right, Aaron.

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I want to bring this next one up because when you got to watching the trailer, we talked about this for a moment and I found out through my research who this was.

00:31:06.705 --> 00:31:13.038
So the dead robot that Superman is holding and sort of mourning there is his mechanized caretaker, Kellex.

00:31:13.038 --> 00:31:19.347
A faithful Kryptonian service robot who serves both the house of L and the fortress solitude Superman's home base.

00:31:19.347 --> 00:31:21.647
Kellex first appeared in John Burns 1986 comic.

00:31:21.647 --> 00:31:22.877
The man is still number one.

00:31:22.877 --> 00:31:30.738
We don't know who Kellex is being voiced by quite yet, but we've seen him, you know, in a couple of different iterations Superman.

00:31:30.738 --> 00:31:39.597
We most recently saw him in Man of Steel, a vert like a very, very loose version of the Kellex where he's just like this sort of tower.

00:31:39.597 --> 00:31:44.910
He's not even he's like a floating tower, essentially that acts as sort of like a security for the force of solitude.

00:31:44.910 --> 00:31:49.549
I'm laughing because in my brain he's going to be voiced by what's the name?

00:31:49.789 --> 00:31:55.730
Davidson, Pete Davidson, because for some reason, James Gunn likes to fucking put Pete Davidson in shit.

00:31:55.730 --> 00:31:57.210
Yeah, that's right.

00:31:58.029 --> 00:31:58.410
All right.

00:31:58.410 --> 00:32:02.730
And then, of course, we have Nicholas Holt, who is about to have a very crazy couple next month.

00:32:02.730 --> 00:32:03.329
Couple next month.

00:32:03.329 --> 00:32:05.079
I'm excited for this one.

00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:06.309
Yeah, I am pumped.

00:32:06.309 --> 00:32:10.970
I'm actually going to see Nosferatu, which he co-stars in with Will DeFoe and Aaron Taylor Johnson.

00:32:10.970 --> 00:32:12.114
That comes out.

00:32:12.114 --> 00:32:12.804
Christmas Day.

00:32:12.804 --> 00:32:14.516
I'm gonna go see that later this week.

00:32:14.516 --> 00:32:18.719
But of course now he's playing Lex Luthor in these movies, which you know, very exciting.

00:32:18.719 --> 00:32:21.300
Nicholas Holt, one of our best young actors.

00:32:21.340 --> 00:32:23.363
He was most recently, well, we covered him.

00:32:23.363 --> 00:32:27.226
What was the movie we watched last year where he's a vampire with Nick Cage?

00:32:27.226 --> 00:32:29.827
It was Aaron, help me out here.

00:32:30.307 --> 00:32:31.348
man.

00:32:31.409 --> 00:32:32.470
Renfield.

00:32:32.551 --> 00:32:34.123
Renfield, God damn it.

00:32:34.123 --> 00:32:36.243
Why was that so hard to figure out?

00:32:36.243 --> 00:32:41.875
I don't know why we're talking about Renfield because he's also more recently he was in Juror number two, the Clint Eastwood movie.

00:32:41.875 --> 00:32:43.546
That's really fucking good.

00:32:43.606 --> 00:32:43.957
my God.

00:32:43.957 --> 00:32:45.457
That was yeah, that was really good.

00:32:45.457 --> 00:32:46.607
That was really good.

00:32:46.607 --> 00:32:49.338
He is he is talk about like range, man.

00:32:49.338 --> 00:32:49.939
Yeah, he is.

00:32:49.939 --> 00:32:54.611
Honestly, Nicholas Holt is the definition of range, modern range today in movies.

00:32:54.611 --> 00:33:01.513
So Lex Luthor, as many people already know, but we'll go over here as the CEO of Lex Corps and is often portrayed as the smartest man.

00:33:01.513 --> 00:33:13.483
on the planet, even more so than Bruce Wayne and harbors a deep resentment of Superman because he believes that once Superman is discovered among the masses of people here on earth, the human race is on the fast track to extinction.

00:33:13.483 --> 00:33:20.569
That's often Lex's sort of beef with Superman is that he believes that man can achieve all.

00:33:20.569 --> 00:33:24.873
They don't need the help of super beings, whether that be Superman or otherwise.

00:33:25.034 --> 00:33:30.028
And a of times Lex is capable of extremely impressive feats.

00:33:30.036 --> 00:33:31.116
as just a normal human.

00:33:31.116 --> 00:33:31.777
has no powers.

00:33:31.777 --> 00:33:40.074
A lot of times he has a suit and he will often use the he'll use the benefits of other villains that are super powered like Brainiac, for instance.

00:33:40.095 --> 00:33:44.939
But most of what he achieves comes directly from his maniacal genius.

00:33:44.939 --> 00:33:46.651
Supreme intellect.

00:33:46.651 --> 00:33:47.561
That's right.

00:33:47.561 --> 00:33:56.358
Lex Luthor first appeared in the comics in Action Comics number 23 back in April, back on April 10th, 1940 and was created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Schuster.

00:33:56.358 --> 00:33:56.961
So.

00:33:56.961 --> 00:34:09.387
Superman also stars Rachel Brosnahan's Lois Lane, Skyler Giassondo as Jimmy Olsen, Maria Gabriela de Ferraria as Angela Spica, aka The Engineer, a member of The Authority, which Chris will probably talk about in a second.

00:34:09.387 --> 00:34:11.347
He'll know more about that than I do.

00:34:11.347 --> 00:34:16.730
Sarah San Paolo as Eve Tessmacher, Lex Luthor's assistant and love interest, which...

00:34:17.751 --> 00:34:18.630
I don't know.

00:34:18.630 --> 00:34:25.880
And Wendell Pierce as Perry White, Pruitt Taylor Vintz as Jonathan Kent, and Neva Howell as Martha Kent.

00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:26.400
Two things, Aaron.

00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:31.514
Number one, do you remember or do you recognize the name Pruitt Taylor Vance at all?

00:34:31.514 --> 00:34:35.217
No, he is the guy who like drowns himself in Constantine.

00:34:35.217 --> 00:34:37.188
He's like Constantine's little helper for a bit.

00:34:37.188 --> 00:34:38.070
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:34:38.070 --> 00:34:39.320
Yeah, With twitchy eyes.

00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:40.121
That's right.

00:34:40.121 --> 00:34:47.597
And then you said a moment ago, you've got the engineer from the authority of the authority is supposed to be playing a role in the background in this movie in some way or another.

00:34:47.597 --> 00:34:50.750
Like the authority is sort of the government's answer for superheroing.

00:34:50.750 --> 00:34:54.092
Like they are paid sometimes bad guys, sometimes good guys.

00:34:54.092 --> 00:34:57.313
They're they're Moral high ground is sort of loose in that way.

00:34:57.313 --> 00:34:59.434
But yeah, the engineer is one of those characters.

00:34:59.434 --> 00:35:03.673
And I say she's actually one of the better characters of that team in terms of like morality.

00:35:03.673 --> 00:35:09.634
So exciting to see her and Angela Spicer in this movie, because this is going to set up gods and monsters.

00:35:09.634 --> 00:35:13.193
Part one Superman again, as you said earlier, comes out on July 11th, 2025.

00:35:13.193 --> 00:35:16.793
We have creature commandos already, but I've heard James talk about this.

00:35:16.793 --> 00:35:21.574
This is essentially just going to set up the rest of the universe and also Peacemaker season two.

00:35:22.293 --> 00:35:23.195
all I've ever wanted.

00:35:23.195 --> 00:35:26.556
The last thing we'll talk about here, Aaron, because this is a long News and Notes segment.

00:35:26.556 --> 00:35:27.516
Excited for this already.

00:35:27.516 --> 00:35:32.960
Has this trailer made you more excited than you were last week when we talked about our most anticipated films of 2025?

00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:33.710
Absolutely.

00:35:33.710 --> 00:35:35.181
How cute is crypto?

00:35:35.181 --> 00:35:37.692
We didn't really talk about crypto, but very cute.

00:35:37.692 --> 00:35:39.663
He's got that one ear that goes up.

00:35:39.663 --> 00:35:40.583
Right.

00:35:40.684 --> 00:35:45.827
And I knew almost immediately as soon as Superman started whistling that that was going to be crypto.

00:35:45.827 --> 00:35:50.418
And I want to say outside of the TV shows, this is the first live action crypto.

00:35:50.418 --> 00:35:51.309
Am I wrong there?

00:35:51.309 --> 00:35:52.193
I believe so.

00:35:52.193 --> 00:35:52.713
pretty sure.

00:35:52.713 --> 00:35:54.594
We're not counting the CW everybody.

00:35:54.594 --> 00:35:55.614
Stop it.

00:35:55.635 --> 00:35:57.016
That is done by the way.

00:35:57.016 --> 00:36:00.257
Now that Superman and Lois has ended, no more CW.

00:36:00.257 --> 00:36:04.340
Yeah, which I heard is pretty good, but this is very exciting.

00:36:04.340 --> 00:36:07.773
This is my most anticipated film of 2025.

00:36:32.974 --> 00:36:33.795
Pretty cool everybody.

00:36:33.795 --> 00:36:35.155
That'll do it for our News and Notes.

00:36:35.155 --> 00:36:37.157
Let's go ahead and get into our review of Sonic 3.

00:36:37.157 --> 00:36:40.400
Yeah.

00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:41.106
Should be interesting.

00:36:41.106 --> 00:36:42.311
All right, let's get into it.

00:36:45.166 --> 00:36:46.492
Me and Tom.

00:36:52.365 --> 00:36:53.007
Okay, everybody.

00:36:53.007 --> 00:36:55.668
Welcome to our review of Sonic 3.

00:36:55.668 --> 00:36:56.288
Spoilers ahead.

00:36:56.288 --> 00:36:59.641
If you have not seen Sonic 3, spoilers.

00:36:59.641 --> 00:37:03.135
Do we need honestly again, just very similar to Craven last week.

00:37:03.135 --> 00:37:04.476
Do we really need a spoiler warning?

00:37:04.476 --> 00:37:13.443
Like there's really not a ton that happens in this movie that either fans are not expecting or what the fans wanted, which I think is sort of my first gripe of this movie.

00:37:13.443 --> 00:37:17.905
Aaron before I guess, as I've already kind of saying, I'll give you my initial thoughts here.

00:37:18.106 --> 00:37:22.541
This movie is essentially just a conveyor belt of giving the fans what they want.

00:37:22.541 --> 00:37:26.172
It is essentially remember that thing from Sonic Adventures 2.

00:37:26.172 --> 00:37:28.322
Well, there's six of these in this movie.

00:37:28.322 --> 00:37:32.362
And Shadow is being voiced by Keanu Reeves, even though hot take alert everybody.

00:37:32.362 --> 00:37:35.032
And Aaron, I don't love Keanu Reeves as a voice actor.

00:37:35.032 --> 00:37:35.581
OK.

00:37:35.581 --> 00:37:43.202
A lot of the appeal to Keanu Reeves is Keanu himself, his sort of his his stature, his acting, all the things that he does.

00:37:43.202 --> 00:37:44.092
Not as a voice actor.

00:37:44.092 --> 00:37:44.632
Not great.

00:37:44.632 --> 00:37:45.822
Don't love him in this role.

00:37:45.822 --> 00:37:51.630
You mean you don't like hearing the same monotonous voice say every line the same way with the same.

00:37:51.630 --> 00:37:53.889
tone and the same rhythm.

00:37:53.889 --> 00:37:56.248
don't like zero inflection.

00:37:57.690 --> 00:37:58.429
Maria.

00:37:58.429 --> 00:37:59.050
Maria.

00:37:59.050 --> 00:38:00.409
I'm going to kill everybody.

00:38:00.409 --> 00:38:01.789
will have my vengeance.

00:38:01.789 --> 00:38:03.349
Do you have cake?

00:38:03.349 --> 00:38:04.880
I have a cheeseburger.

00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:06.150
Like this is the entire movie.

00:38:06.150 --> 00:38:09.150
This is every single shadow line.

00:38:09.230 --> 00:38:10.210
Exactly.

00:38:10.210 --> 00:38:15.429
you know, as someone, okay, let's talk about initial thoughts and then we'll talk about our environment.

00:38:15.429 --> 00:38:16.429
was going to get into our environment.

00:38:16.429 --> 00:38:18.230
Aaron, what are your initial thoughts on this film?

00:38:18.230 --> 00:38:20.411
And bleed into your environment, your movie.

00:38:20.411 --> 00:38:36.144
OK, so this movie was exactly as you said, it's conveyor belt of just giving fans like honestly, like this is what young moviegoers are going to see going forward because this is a movie where a new template like it's just a new template.

00:38:36.144 --> 00:38:42.235
Like there's there's literally like several moments of action followed by a couple of moments of nothing.

00:38:42.235 --> 00:38:46.338
Followed by a couple of moments of action because there's no little exposition.

00:38:46.338 --> 00:38:48.213
There's no attention span.

00:38:48.213 --> 00:39:00.884
No, there's no attention span like this movie was honestly like just clips clips clips with some some minor stuff in the middle that made they had no impact that had no need this could have been a 30 minute episode.

00:39:00.884 --> 00:39:06.708
You know what I thought about while like maybe halfway through this movie was your thoughts on the Super Mario movie.

00:39:06.708 --> 00:39:13.994
We talked about it here on the show last year where you said you didn't love that movie and you're like a Nintendo head you love or just I would say video games in general.

00:39:13.994 --> 00:39:15.275
You love video games.

00:39:15.275 --> 00:39:20.175
That's like your strongest passion and You said you enjoyed Super Mario Bros.

00:39:20.175 --> 00:39:24.958
But the one big gripe is that you felt like it was just a tad too kiddy paint by numbers.

00:39:24.958 --> 00:39:26.458
Just like too safe.

00:39:26.458 --> 00:39:27.699
Very safe.

00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:31.461
No liberties to the source material or anything.

00:39:31.461 --> 00:39:43.288
And I think maybe you could say for all of these movies, all three of these installments, this may have been something that we've talked about in previous reviews is that this movie and this franchise is so fucking paint by numbers.

00:39:43.288 --> 00:39:48.411
It's annoying to the point where like And Aaron, want you to talk on this now.

00:39:48.411 --> 00:39:52.934
The reaction from the people that were in my theater was infuriating.

00:39:52.934 --> 00:39:55.387
Their happiness made me angry, Aaron.

00:39:55.387 --> 00:39:56.317
Yes.

00:39:56.657 --> 00:40:01.251
OK, I'm just going to like let's go into the environments, man, because this is this is I have to get this off my fucking chest.

00:40:01.251 --> 00:40:13.025
And I'm sorry that I'm about to lose my cool just a little bit because I had the worst, the worst movie going experience because I did not understand, A, why there were so many kids in this movie theater, because it's a Thursday night.

00:40:13.025 --> 00:40:16.768
But then I, you know, I asked Carly and Carly was like, they're on Christmas break.

00:40:16.768 --> 00:40:17.230
Yeah.

00:40:17.230 --> 00:40:17.539
Yeah.

00:40:17.539 --> 00:40:18.181
That makes sense.

00:40:18.181 --> 00:40:19.733
movie is a kid's movie.

00:40:19.733 --> 00:40:21.632
And yes, it is a kid's movie.

00:40:21.753 --> 00:40:28.440
Within 10 minutes of movie starting, turned around and told somebody, I said, pardon me.

00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:31.523
Do you plan on talking like this the entire movie?

00:40:31.523 --> 00:40:36.606
Because I paid good money to watch this movie and not listen to you talk.

00:40:36.606 --> 00:40:39.309
What did a nine year old Jimmy say to you afterwards?

00:40:39.389 --> 00:40:40.250
That.

00:40:40.730 --> 00:40:42.280
She was like, OK.

00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:43.431
It was a young girl.

00:40:43.431 --> 00:40:49.224
then her mother, who was sitting two seats down, says, excuse me, you don't have to be rude.

00:40:49.224 --> 00:40:50.896
I said, I'm not being rude.

00:40:50.896 --> 00:40:52.657
I said, I'm just I would like to watch this movie.

00:40:52.657 --> 00:40:54.458
He goes, she's like, you're a jerk.

00:40:54.458 --> 00:40:56.679
And I'm like, I was like, OK.

00:40:56.679 --> 00:40:58.164
And she's like, you don't have to talk to kids like that.

00:40:58.164 --> 00:40:59.581
I said, I'm not I'm not being rude.

00:40:59.581 --> 00:41:02.422
But maybe you should teach your kids better not to talk during the movie.

00:41:02.422 --> 00:41:02.652
Yeah.

00:41:02.652 --> 00:41:04.112
I'll stop being rude when you start parenting.

00:41:04.112 --> 00:41:04.543
How about that?

00:41:04.543 --> 00:41:04.922
Yeah.

00:41:04.922 --> 00:41:09.965
And then her oldest son, who I'll tell you more about in a minute, literally goes, hey, man, fuck you.

00:41:09.965 --> 00:41:12.315
And I was like, and then I turned around and said, that's yours.

00:41:12.315 --> 00:41:13.706
Great parenting.

00:41:13.905 --> 00:41:24.266
then no joke, like not even two minutes before this interaction happened, I had to walk down a couple of aisles and tell a kid to stop recording the movie on his cell phone.

00:41:24.545 --> 00:41:25.085
Yep.

00:41:25.085 --> 00:41:27.525
I was like, you know, that's illegal, right?

00:41:27.525 --> 00:41:28.715
And he puts his phone away.

00:41:28.715 --> 00:41:30.706
You wouldn't download a car, would you?

00:41:30.706 --> 00:41:32.525
And I'll be that guy because you know what?

00:41:32.525 --> 00:41:33.246
Like, I don't care.

00:41:33.246 --> 00:41:40.983
Like, I know that I'm in a kid's movie, but I'm also I am well aware that there are that there are just things you don't do in a movie theater.

00:41:40.983 --> 00:41:45.054
man, like just multiple times people talk to me.

00:41:45.054 --> 00:41:49.065
We are officially the movie theater, like police, you Police, yeah.

00:41:49.065 --> 00:42:08.914
The other thing that really irritates me, and we'll get to like the ending of the movie, was like when there were certain moves that were used by like certain characters, there were children and young adults literally screaming at the top of their lungs.

00:42:09.373 --> 00:42:11.916
Was that a shadow spear?

00:42:12.327 --> 00:42:13.327
my god, Aaron.

00:42:13.327 --> 00:42:13.757
my god.

00:42:13.757 --> 00:42:15.500
They play live and learn.

00:42:15.500 --> 00:42:16.451
They play live and learn.

00:42:16.451 --> 00:42:17.681
Can you believe it, Aaron?

00:42:17.681 --> 00:42:18.052
Yeah.

00:42:18.052 --> 00:42:28.121
And then at one point, I'm not, I'm not kidding, but like we'll talk about the post credit scenes where the same kid who's like, fuck you, man.

00:42:28.121 --> 00:42:35.478
Half the audience probably are literally on their feet, like what is with this high pitch.

00:42:35.545 --> 00:42:36.436
screaming.

00:42:36.436 --> 00:42:37.137
Yeah.

00:42:37.137 --> 00:42:42.038
And and and not just like screaming like, my God, they're like, let's fucking go.

00:42:42.038 --> 00:42:48.164
It's like you are a teenager in a in a in a theater filled with other kids and you think it's OK.

00:42:48.164 --> 00:42:49.335
And your parents are there.

00:42:49.335 --> 00:42:50.527
Your parents are there.

00:42:50.527 --> 00:42:54.309
And you're going to scream, let's fucking go like Aaron.

00:42:54.309 --> 00:42:56.380
When did the Sonic fandom become so passionate?

00:42:56.380 --> 00:43:00.583
Because to go into my own, my theater experience.

00:43:00.583 --> 00:43:01.523
Same thing.

00:43:01.523 --> 00:43:04.416
I went at three o'clock on a Thursday.

00:43:04.494 --> 00:43:11.079
It was quote unquote the fan experience where you get like a shadow poster at AMC, but sold out crowd.

00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:13.501
It was an Adobe theater, extremely loud.

00:43:13.501 --> 00:43:17.824
And I get in there, this guy next to me, first of all, is on his phone from the very beginning.

00:43:17.824 --> 00:43:19.387
And I say, Hey, do you mind putting your phone away?

00:43:19.387 --> 00:43:21.288
He doesn't hear me because it's super loud.

00:43:21.288 --> 00:43:23.068
I go, Hey, put your phone away.

00:43:23.090 --> 00:43:24.150
He eventually puts it away.

00:43:24.150 --> 00:43:27.934
And then like every 10 minutes or so, he like looks at it really quickly.

00:43:27.934 --> 00:43:32.077
Just take like boop lights up his dumb face and puts it back down.

00:43:32.077 --> 00:43:33.840
At one point, like, dude, Put your phone away.

00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:35.731
This dude's, I don't know.

00:43:35.731 --> 00:43:36.713
He's an adult.

00:43:36.713 --> 00:43:37.603
He's taller than I am.

00:43:37.603 --> 00:43:42.568
I knew that he was a big dude, but I'm like, how can you not not look at your phone for an hour and a half?

00:43:42.568 --> 00:43:45.981
We'll get into how long this movie, it's an hour and 50 minutes, but like this movie is not that long.

00:43:45.981 --> 00:43:47.061
You can't not look at your phone.

00:43:47.061 --> 00:43:47.902
What's going on?

00:43:47.902 --> 00:43:54.728
And then the same thing as you, anytime something I would say decently cool happened in the movie and definitely a reference to the video games.

00:43:54.728 --> 00:43:57.762
This crowd lost their minds.

00:43:57.762 --> 00:44:00.447
People, they were like, I'm talking.

00:44:00.447 --> 00:44:03.438
Avengers in game level of losing your mind, folks.

00:44:03.438 --> 00:44:04.309
It was insane.

00:44:04.309 --> 00:44:07.559
I don't know what is with this fandom.

00:44:07.619 --> 00:44:15.032
It's I honestly think what it is is they're they live in it like now the youth live in a say that the youth I'm a boomer now.

00:44:15.032 --> 00:44:15.601
Okay.

00:44:15.601 --> 00:44:17.001
Officially a boomer.

00:44:17.123 --> 00:44:18.362
Goddamn kids.

00:44:18.362 --> 00:44:19.043
Goddamn kids.

00:44:19.043 --> 00:44:22.764
Like they live in this world now where reactions are everything.

00:44:22.764 --> 00:44:30.286
So if you have the most exciting, funny reaction, then you like people will pay it like there are literally people who are influencers.

00:44:30.286 --> 00:44:32.146
simply because of their reactions.

00:44:32.146 --> 00:44:43.905
So these kids now feel like they have to one up each other or be like the loudest person in the audience to react the most and have the loudest quip, have the loudest reaction and be noticed for how stupid they are.

00:44:43.925 --> 00:44:49.965
You know, it's funny, Aaron, is that the night before I went to go see Sonic 3, I went to go see Interstellar.

00:44:49.965 --> 00:44:51.525
course, Chris Nolan film.

00:44:51.525 --> 00:44:52.565
It's an all timer.

00:44:52.565 --> 00:44:54.585
I you it was a way different experience.

00:44:54.585 --> 00:44:59.231
It's a sold out crowd at the IMAX downtown, as I've said many times here on the show.

00:44:59.231 --> 00:45:02.034
one of the 12 largest movie screens in the entire US.

00:45:02.034 --> 00:45:04.775
was a 70 millimeter version, a true experience.

00:45:04.775 --> 00:45:09.684
What an incredible moment in my life as a movie goer to go see this film for like one.

00:45:09.684 --> 00:45:11.458
I've only seen it maybe one time before this.

00:45:11.458 --> 00:45:12.869
So it's very fresh.

00:45:12.869 --> 00:45:14.751
The whole movie, incredible experience.

00:45:14.751 --> 00:45:15.990
No one clapped.

00:45:15.990 --> 00:45:16.862
The end of the film.

00:45:16.862 --> 00:45:18.052
Everybody walked out.

00:45:18.052 --> 00:45:19.032
People are chatting about it.

00:45:19.032 --> 00:45:20.407
Really like, Hey, that was really cool.

00:45:20.407 --> 00:45:21.344
That was so cool.

00:45:21.344 --> 00:45:23.576
I never seen space so huge on a screen.

00:45:23.576 --> 00:45:27.820
When I tell you that people were like standing up, standing ovation to this movie.

00:45:27.820 --> 00:45:28.730
That is bad.

00:45:28.730 --> 00:45:29.251
Everybody.

00:45:29.251 --> 00:45:31.070
This movie is bad.

00:45:31.070 --> 00:45:31.711
Okay.

00:45:31.711 --> 00:45:35.293
This franchise is, like decent at its best.

00:45:35.293 --> 00:45:36.512
It is this movie though.

00:45:36.512 --> 00:45:38.114
This entry is bad.

00:45:38.114 --> 00:45:38.594
Okay.

00:45:38.594 --> 00:45:39.534
Yes.

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Do you agree on that summary?

00:45:41.144 --> 00:45:42.465
Do you agree with that?

00:45:42.465 --> 00:45:43.155
do.

00:45:43.155 --> 00:45:44.175
I do agree.

00:45:44.175 --> 00:45:46.637
And that's like, that's, that is bottom line upfront.

00:45:46.637 --> 00:45:47.507
This movie's bad.

00:45:47.507 --> 00:45:48.117
Okay.

00:45:48.117 --> 00:45:55.014
There is There are good things about it, but this movie in essence is a fucking shit show.

00:45:55.313 --> 00:46:01.639
Sonic Knuckles and Tails reunite to battle Shadow, a mysterious new enemy with powers unlike anything they faced before.

00:46:01.639 --> 00:46:07.282
With their abilities outmatched in every way, they seek out an unlikely alliance to stop Shadow and protect the planet.

00:46:08.242 --> 00:46:11.686
Just, again, plot holes, goddamn galore.

00:46:11.686 --> 00:46:13.577
Not even plot holes, just bare minimum nothing.

00:46:13.577 --> 00:46:19.409
Honestly, yeah, not even a plot hole, just like we don't give a shit about writing a cohesive, like, Like full movie.

00:46:19.409 --> 00:46:27.949
So director Jeff Fowler's mentioned playing both Sonic Adventure 2 from 2001 and Shadow the Hedgehog 2005 solo game for inspiration.

00:46:27.949 --> 00:46:33.159
The film is also inspired by narrative elements from the Saturday morning animated television series Sonic the Hedgehog in 1993.

00:46:33.159 --> 00:46:33.800
Cool.

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Do you have any attachment to any of those entries, by the way?

00:46:36.210 --> 00:46:38.019
I know Sonic Adventure 2.

00:46:38.019 --> 00:46:40.570
I had this kid in my neighborhood who had a dream cast.

00:46:40.570 --> 00:46:46.411
I didn't have a dream cast and he used to play that game religiously like people who love Sonic.

00:46:46.411 --> 00:46:49.704
A lot of times Sonic Adventure 2 is their first entry.

00:46:49.704 --> 00:46:51.105
Like that's their favorite one.

00:46:51.105 --> 00:46:54.166
And then, of course, I watched Sonic the Hedgehog sparingly.

00:46:54.166 --> 00:46:56.807
Honestly, not that much as like as a kid.

00:46:56.807 --> 00:46:58.228
I caught some of the episodes.

00:46:58.228 --> 00:47:00.230
Never like never like a devout fan.

00:47:00.230 --> 00:47:00.815
That's the thing.

00:47:00.815 --> 00:47:01.730
You're absolutely right.

00:47:01.730 --> 00:47:05.862
For some reason, Sonic fans are ravenous feral monsters.

00:47:05.862 --> 00:47:07.713
They're little beasts.

00:47:07.713 --> 00:47:09.083
They're little fucking beasts.

00:47:09.083 --> 00:47:12.655
Let me this might be a good sort of moment to sort of divulge.

00:47:12.655 --> 00:47:14.047
What is your attachment to Sonic?

00:47:14.047 --> 00:47:15.628
Do you have any history?

00:47:15.628 --> 00:47:16.739
With the video games.

00:47:16.739 --> 00:47:22.922
I played Sonic one, two and three on the Genesis that were barely a fucking cohesive story in itself.

00:47:22.922 --> 00:47:32.349
And I left it that Sonic Generations, the first one where you have to like the KO, the KO garden, things like that, terrible game, a terrible at the game.

00:47:32.349 --> 00:47:40.815
So wasn't like I just I'm not attached to the the Sonic the Hedgehog franchise after the Sega Genesis iterations.

00:47:40.815 --> 00:47:41.226
Agreed.

00:47:41.226 --> 00:47:41.876
Same for me.

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Almost to the T.

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I like Sega Genesis.

00:47:45.141 --> 00:47:49.494
Everything in that I always wanted to play Sonic, but I also didn't have a Sega Genesis growing up.

00:47:49.494 --> 00:47:51.686
I don't know why my mom, she bought me a PlayStation.

00:47:51.686 --> 00:47:56.407
I think my mom only thought that when I asked for a game console, she just assumed that it was a PlayStation.

00:47:56.407 --> 00:47:58.228
She never like got me a Nintendo.

00:47:58.228 --> 00:48:00.070
She never got me a Sega.

00:48:00.070 --> 00:48:01.101
You know, the game station, right?

00:48:01.101 --> 00:48:01.320
Yeah.

00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:03.041
Like the one game station that exists.

00:48:03.041 --> 00:48:03.291
Yeah.

00:48:03.291 --> 00:48:04.012
Yeah.

00:48:04.012 --> 00:48:10.556
It goes to the games op and says like, if I were to buy my kid a new, you know, console, what's you have a Sony something?

00:48:10.556 --> 00:48:11.956
Yeah.

00:48:12.157 --> 00:48:14.518
At the beginning of the film, Shadow is being held.

00:48:14.601 --> 00:48:17.793
is shown being held captive at Prison Island in Tokyo.

00:48:17.793 --> 00:48:20.806
That's not an imaginatively bankrupt name, don't worry.

00:48:20.806 --> 00:48:24.987
It's actually where Shadow was also held in 2001's Sonic Adventure 2.

00:48:24.987 --> 00:48:29.311
And forms the basis of several levels returning again in 2005's Shadow the Hedgehog.

00:48:29.311 --> 00:48:34.833
These filmmakers really, really loved Sonic Adventures 2 and apparently so did our crowds.

00:48:35.835 --> 00:48:41.228
So when Tails and Knuckles beat Sonic in a race at the beginning of the film, they are seen tapping their foot at the finish line.

00:48:41.228 --> 00:48:48.679
This is, course, a reference to the video games where if you don't touch your controller for an extended period of time, Sonic will tap his foot and look directly at you and patiently.

00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:50.239
Which I thought was actually pretty cute.

00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:51.280
I like that part.

00:48:51.280 --> 00:49:01.664
So we have the child garden, which is described by Tails as one of Tokyo's top 10 must see spots during Team Sonic's attempt to reconvene after getting run ragged by Shadow.

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This is a mini game from Aaron.

00:49:03.344 --> 00:49:04.244
You guessed it.

00:49:04.244 --> 00:49:08.985
Sonic Adventure 2 that allows the players to raise their own cuddly Tamagotchi like chaos.

00:49:08.985 --> 00:49:10.626
There was a memory card.

00:49:10.626 --> 00:49:11.775
that had like a screen on it.

00:49:11.775 --> 00:49:14.096
You could actually take your Chao, I guess it's called a Chao.

00:49:14.096 --> 00:49:15.626
I thought it was called like a KO.

00:49:15.626 --> 00:49:21.628
Like a Chao, you can take it with you in the memory card and it has like an LED or LCD screen.

00:49:21.628 --> 00:49:24.280
So yeah, you basically raise it like a fucking Tamagotchi.

00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:24.909
I'm sorry.

00:49:24.909 --> 00:49:25.639
I feel bad.

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Cause like, there's no spoiler.

00:49:26.911 --> 00:49:28.260
Like fuck the spoiler warning.

00:49:28.260 --> 00:49:28.820
I'm sorry.

00:49:28.820 --> 00:49:30.711
I'm going to say offense warning.

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If I offend any of the audience, any of the listeners because of my feelings towards this movie or just the Sonic fandom, it's your fucking fault.

00:49:38.914 --> 00:49:43.739
This experience in the theater is why we are so it's all your own fault.

00:49:43.739 --> 00:49:47.181
This is like, I'm still reeling.

00:49:47.181 --> 00:49:56.739
Like, I know we already talked about it and we can move past it, but that movie going experience was and we are often complaining like we are truly like some weird.

00:49:56.739 --> 00:49:57.889
There's a difference, my man.

00:49:57.889 --> 00:50:00.021
Maybe we're hypersensitive to the movie going experience.

00:50:00.021 --> 00:50:05.076
You and I know, but there is an absolute I'm going to cut you off because shut up.

00:50:05.076 --> 00:50:06.135
Shut your beautiful mouth.

00:50:06.135 --> 00:50:06.887
How I feel.

00:50:06.887 --> 00:50:08.282
feel internally.

00:50:08.282 --> 00:50:15.708
Savage right now because I want to like beat some like I honestly like if I could never mind I'm going to like implicate myself.

00:50:16.449 --> 00:50:23.824
I just like I wanted to just tell every parent that was in that theater like you are the reason things are so bad in society.

00:50:23.824 --> 00:50:25.088
You're raising Hitler right now.

00:50:25.088 --> 00:50:26.226
You need to fucking get in there.

00:50:26.226 --> 00:50:27.625
Get in there and do your work.

00:50:27.625 --> 00:50:28.309
Do your job.

00:50:28.309 --> 00:50:32.523
Some species eat their young director is Jeff Fowler.

00:50:32.523 --> 00:50:37.626
His only filmography is these three films like it's literally just Sonic one, two and three.

00:50:37.626 --> 00:50:42.947
And then he directed a short 2004 animated film called go for broke.

00:50:42.947 --> 00:50:44.827
So puns.

00:50:44.827 --> 00:50:45.728
We love them.

00:50:45.728 --> 00:50:53.530
Aaron, we've talked about here on the show a lot here recently, but I think anybody who listens to the Oblivion party knows this is that damn it.

00:50:53.530 --> 00:50:54.650
Do we love a bit?

00:50:54.650 --> 00:50:55.630
We love a bit.

00:50:55.630 --> 00:50:58.331
And this movie is just bit galore.

00:50:58.331 --> 00:51:00.293
Like as you said earlier, there's zero plot.

00:51:00.293 --> 00:51:00.693
Everybody.

00:51:00.693 --> 00:51:02.483
We're not going to talk about plot in this movie because guess what?

00:51:02.483 --> 00:51:03.023
There isn't one.

00:51:03.023 --> 00:51:04.972
OK, it's just bits.

00:51:04.972 --> 00:51:13.688
and references bits reference, CGI fight bits reference, CGI, Jim Carrey do something crazy and then a bit, you know, let's just, I'll I'll give a quick rundown.

00:51:13.688 --> 00:51:17.150
I'll give a quick rundown and pretty much anything that I don't cover.

00:51:17.150 --> 00:51:18.001
didn't put in the movie.

00:51:18.001 --> 00:51:18.550
Okay.

00:51:18.550 --> 00:51:28.331
So shadow awakens because Robotnik symbol on a screen hacker attacks Tokyo somehow immediately a gun.

00:51:28.331 --> 00:51:30.222
gets to Sonic as his friends.

00:51:30.222 --> 00:51:40.554
Last movie, we're like, Sonic's not ready to be an adult, like not ready to be a hero, but now they're just letting him go off on his own with his little fucking buddies in a government helicopter.

00:51:40.554 --> 00:51:48.123
Team Sonic go to Tokyo, which first off, plot hole number one is, are they just, how many rings do they have with them?

00:51:48.123 --> 00:51:49.875
Cause I think it was, was it the second one?

00:51:49.875 --> 00:51:50.746
They only have one?

00:51:50.746 --> 00:51:51.458
Yeah.

00:51:51.458 --> 00:51:54.460
And like in this one, like now they're just using rings to go around the planet.

00:51:54.460 --> 00:51:57.592
I didn't know they could get them back, but apparently maybe they can create more.

00:51:57.592 --> 00:51:58.012
I don't know.

00:51:58.012 --> 00:52:00.105
But they use a ring to get to Tokyo.

00:52:00.105 --> 00:52:01.385
To me, that doesn't work.

00:52:01.385 --> 00:52:10.132
I mean, the air speed, velocity, density, like there's got to be some science thing that doesn't make it right for a helicopter to go through a portal to a completely different.

00:52:10.132 --> 00:52:10.782
You know what saying?

00:52:10.782 --> 00:52:12.253
Doesn't make any fucking sense.

00:52:12.253 --> 00:52:14.195
OK, the other thing, I'm just gonna throw this out there.

00:52:14.195 --> 00:52:24.637
At the end of Sonic 2, Sonic turns off God Sonic, Super Sonic, whatever the Sonic mode is, Ultra Supreme, Instinctual Sonic.

00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:33.684
He sends the crystals up into the sky and then Knuckles uses his hand strength to reform the Master Emerald.

00:52:34.146 --> 00:52:39.489
But somehow in this movie, it's the same thing again.

00:52:39.869 --> 00:52:42.170
It doesn't make any sense.

00:52:42.632 --> 00:52:46.483
So anyways, Team Sonic goes to fight Shadow.

00:52:46.483 --> 00:52:47.875
Shadow beats all their asses.

00:52:47.875 --> 00:52:48.355
Yeah.

00:52:48.355 --> 00:52:53.777
And then Stone shows up and it's like, hey, let's go get Robotnik because he would know what to do.

00:52:53.777 --> 00:52:55.277
Somehow they need Robotnik.

00:52:55.277 --> 00:52:56.659
So they go get Robotnik.

00:52:56.659 --> 00:53:01.840
Robotnik helps them track down the tech that was used to release Shadow.

00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:02.380
Guess what?

00:53:02.380 --> 00:53:09.893
They find Robotnik's grandfather who had a daughter, but Maria died as a child.

00:53:09.893 --> 00:53:12.465
So who the fuck is Robotnik's mom?

00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:15.161
Who's Robotnik's dad?

00:53:15.161 --> 00:53:16.913
Like, this doesn't make any sense.

00:53:16.913 --> 00:53:18.454
my world ended with Maria.

00:53:18.454 --> 00:53:23.277
So that means he didn't have any more kids, which means that he didn't have unless he had other kids that are older.

00:53:23.277 --> 00:53:24.018
Yeah.

00:53:24.018 --> 00:53:25.570
But then why was Maria the favorite?

00:53:25.570 --> 00:53:27.280
But like, this is like 50 years ago.

00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:28.561
It doesn't make any sense.

00:53:28.561 --> 00:53:35.077
Anyways, Shadow, however old he is, was apparently either in love or was family to Maria now.

00:53:35.077 --> 00:53:39.391
I think it's a now kids into that in the video games that he's in love with Maria, but it's not really touched on in the movie.

00:53:39.391 --> 00:53:39.811
Yeah.

00:53:39.811 --> 00:53:42.784
So like now he wants to destroy the world.

00:53:42.838 --> 00:53:46.018
or help destroy the world with grandpapi Robotnik.

00:53:46.018 --> 00:53:50.481
Yeah, because yeah, because he's fucking, you know, sad about his girlfriend.

00:53:50.481 --> 00:53:54.983
That the only funny thing about this movie is the is are the robot.

00:53:54.983 --> 00:53:55.632
It's Jim Carrey.

00:53:55.632 --> 00:53:59.065
Jim Carrey is the only funny good thing about this movie.

00:53:59.065 --> 00:54:03.405
The dance scene was the funniest fucking thing of this entire movie.

00:54:03.405 --> 00:54:06.266
I the final fight with the mantis and the yes.

00:54:06.266 --> 00:54:12.050
I have a feeling that Jim Carrey just started doing that on set and just added all of that in CGI.

00:54:12.050 --> 00:54:12.711
Yes.

00:54:12.711 --> 00:54:15.273
I want a Robotnik movie.

00:54:15.273 --> 00:54:16.523
I don't want anything else.

00:54:16.523 --> 00:54:20.445
I just want Robotnik doing like like I want a day in the life of Robotnik.

00:54:20.445 --> 00:54:21.246
Like that's it.

00:54:21.246 --> 00:54:29.148
You know what just dawned on me as we're talking about all this, Aaron, is that these movies have essentially just usurped the sort of common sense.

00:54:29.228 --> 00:54:36.572
Well, yeah, but sort of the corner in the movie going world of the Fast and Furious franchise where plot doesn't matter.

00:54:36.572 --> 00:54:38.193
It's all about reference.

00:54:38.193 --> 00:54:40.461
It's all about actors taking on a role.

00:54:40.461 --> 00:54:43.501
It's all about La Familia and Corona's.

00:54:43.501 --> 00:54:48.782
Whereas in this movie, it's yeah, it's it's chili dogs and and and rings.

00:54:49.141 --> 00:54:52.672
So anyways, the whole point of this movie is the Robotniks.

00:54:52.672 --> 00:55:01.132
They want to get these two keys that gets to Gerald Robotniks ultimate like weapon, which is like a big it basically looks like the gravity machine.

00:55:01.132 --> 00:55:01.922
What do you call it?

00:55:01.922 --> 00:55:03.952
The machine from Man of Steel?

00:55:03.952 --> 00:55:06.422
Yeah, it's the terraforming terraforming.

00:55:06.422 --> 00:55:06.818
Yeah.

00:55:06.818 --> 00:55:08.619
To make Earth into Krypton.

00:55:08.619 --> 00:55:10.760
Yeah, it looks exactly like that.

00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:17.563
And so and then come to find out that Shadow, with his chaos energy, is the thing that powers the weapon.

00:55:17.563 --> 00:55:23.567
And so his dad wants to destroy the planet for some reason because because he loved Maria and it's his daughter.

00:55:24.086 --> 00:55:26.527
he literally kills his own grandfather.

00:55:26.849 --> 00:55:31.661
There's a weird scene where Sonic and Shadow both become god mode.

00:55:31.661 --> 00:55:32.092
Yep.

00:55:32.092 --> 00:55:34.572
Like like and also they can breathe in space.

00:55:34.572 --> 00:55:36.619
Giving off Goku, Vegeta vibes.

00:55:36.619 --> 00:55:43.813
Yeah, giving off Goku, Vegeta vibes or they can breathe in space and yet they can't handle re-entering to the atmosphere.

00:55:44.632 --> 00:55:47.014
There's more rings that are thrown around.

00:55:47.014 --> 00:55:49.315
They chop half the moon off.

00:55:49.315 --> 00:55:49.976
Is that a reference?

00:55:49.976 --> 00:55:51.425
Because people started clapping when that happened.

00:55:51.425 --> 00:55:53.067
Is that a reference to Sonic?

00:55:53.067 --> 00:55:53.717
I guess so.

00:55:53.717 --> 00:55:54.208
I don't know.

00:55:54.208 --> 00:55:54.757
I have no idea.

00:55:54.757 --> 00:55:55.128
don't know.

00:55:55.128 --> 00:55:56.478
Yeah.

00:55:56.478 --> 00:55:56.938
And yeah.

00:55:56.938 --> 00:55:59.898
So at the end of the movie, they to with the waves of Earth.

00:55:59.940 --> 00:56:00.400
Yeah.

00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:15.806
At of the movie, that shadow takes off one of his takes off his bracelets and pushes the The the and they turn the actual laser because it's firing on earth so not destroy it shadow and sonic Use their bodies to block the fucking energy.

00:56:15.806 --> 00:56:28.679
They turn the space station almost a plate PlayStation they turn it and it explodes supposedly killing evo and shadow and then That's and then all of sudden everything's good again.

00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:29.360
Everybody's happy.

00:56:29.360 --> 00:56:33.460
We're family making fucking s'mores and shit They literally go back to the opening scene.

00:56:33.460 --> 00:56:37.202
Yeah, they go back to the opening where they're all camping together It's so stupid.

00:56:37.202 --> 00:56:37.632
Two things.

00:56:37.632 --> 00:56:42.445
Number one, fan favorite segment here on the show where Aaron just hate recaps a movie.

00:56:42.445 --> 00:56:43.425
Love it.

00:56:43.425 --> 00:56:46.228
Happy to have it back here at the end of the year at the end of twenty twenty five.

00:56:46.228 --> 00:56:55.213
Secondly, I love when they figure out just what's the what's the most obvious way to kick James Marsden and Tiki Sumter out of these movies.

00:56:55.213 --> 00:56:59.074
Every every one of these Sonic movies, I'm like, how are they going to just exclude them from this movie?

00:56:59.074 --> 00:57:02.297
Because for the large portion of this movie, they are irrelevant.

00:57:02.297 --> 00:57:04.588
And then when they come back to the movie.

00:57:04.717 --> 00:57:09.737
They are just there so that they can get hurt so that Sonic has something to get the chaos emeralds for.

00:57:09.737 --> 00:57:10.717
Yeah.

00:57:11.018 --> 00:57:12.637
So stupid.

00:57:12.637 --> 00:57:17.128
Let's we'll talk and then then we'll talk about the the post credit scenes in a moment.

00:57:17.128 --> 00:57:22.277
Yeah, that's probably the thing we'll talk about the most, honestly, because yeah, our annoying crowds really like that part, too.

00:57:22.277 --> 00:57:25.818
God, like to chew an insane amount.

00:57:25.818 --> 00:57:26.358
All right.

00:57:26.358 --> 00:57:27.338
And let's get into the budget here.

00:57:27.338 --> 00:57:29.197
One hundred twenty two million dollars.

00:57:29.197 --> 00:57:31.115
I think overall.

00:57:31.211 --> 00:57:32.112
Some parts look really good.

00:57:32.112 --> 00:57:32.802
Some parts don't.

00:57:32.802 --> 00:57:34.653
That's essentially the makeup of this movie.

00:57:34.653 --> 00:57:37.465
It's like some, some of the CGI looks really, really good.

00:57:37.465 --> 00:57:38.985
And some of it doesn't.

00:57:39.126 --> 00:57:41.407
Let's just say that it's all CGI.

00:57:41.407 --> 00:57:42.949
It's all CGI.

00:57:42.949 --> 00:57:43.648
It's all CGI.

00:57:43.648 --> 00:57:51.873
you know what's crazy is that even the human characters look CGI because they're so well groomed and like they have the perfect makeup on.

00:57:51.873 --> 00:58:01.458
Like I'm thinking of like, shoot the two characters from the second movie that got married at the beginning of the movie, I'm forgetting their names now, but they are so well groomed and like Perfect makeup.

00:58:01.458 --> 00:58:02.259
James Marsden.

00:58:02.259 --> 00:58:02.719
Same thing.

00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:02.940
T.

00:58:02.940 --> 00:58:03.539
Sumpter.

00:58:03.539 --> 00:58:07.163
Everybody just as no hair at a place.

00:58:07.163 --> 00:58:08.182
It's insane.

00:58:08.182 --> 00:58:10.505
They're probably a I they probably sold themselves.

00:58:10.505 --> 00:58:15.347
And it's just like a fucking they're they didn't even they weren't even in the movie.

00:58:15.347 --> 00:58:17.139
Right.

00:58:17.139 --> 00:58:17.809
Box office here.

00:58:17.809 --> 00:58:21.652
Sonic the Hedgehog 3 posted a six point five million box office from preview night.

00:58:21.652 --> 00:58:25.434
That's Thursday beating out Disney's Mufasa at three point three million.

00:58:25.434 --> 00:58:29.954
Sonic the Hedgehog 3 is expected to open at 60 million dollars domestically after its first weekend.

00:58:29.954 --> 00:58:34.076
This is the best preview night ever in the Sonic the Hedgehog franchise, Aaron.

00:58:34.076 --> 00:58:38.378
I'm immediately disgusted by myself that I was a part of this.

00:58:38.378 --> 00:58:41.318
You did this, You did it watching you.

00:58:42.599 --> 00:58:45.240
I'm sick and defy myself.

00:58:45.242 --> 00:58:50.483
This is ahead of the previous installment at five million dollars in preview night.

00:58:50.523 --> 00:58:54.411
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 opened at seventy two point one million, the best so far in the series.

00:58:54.411 --> 00:58:58.005
Sonic the Hedgehog's preview night was three million dollars back in February of 2020.

00:58:58.005 --> 00:59:01.016
And that movie opened up before the pandemic at fifty eight million dollars.

00:59:01.016 --> 00:59:06.827
That was essentially the last movies that we got before Covid officially like shut down before we got the major shutdown.

00:59:06.827 --> 00:59:10.434
So it's probably going to be the second most valuable of the franchise.

00:59:10.434 --> 00:59:19.302
But I wouldn't be surprised if it actually takes home more than Sonic the Hedgehog 2 overall because of it opening around the time of Christmas when people are getting off and off break and whatnot.

00:59:19.302 --> 00:59:21.905
So runtime hour and 50 minutes.

00:59:21.905 --> 00:59:24.532
This is the second shortest of The second of the three.

00:59:24.532 --> 00:59:28.204
So it's right in the middle and it's only 10 minutes longer than the first film.

00:59:28.204 --> 00:59:29.985
So feels like the fucking longest.

00:59:29.985 --> 00:59:39.413
You know, honestly, right around the time where Jim Carrey was giving his monologue on the ship and Shadow pushing the ship to the.

00:59:39.413 --> 00:59:40.634
What is Shadow doing in this moment?

00:59:40.634 --> 00:59:42.494
I think isn't he pushing someone?

00:59:42.494 --> 00:59:44.016
He's pushing the ship somewhere.

00:59:44.016 --> 00:59:45.978
Yeah, he's like turning it away from the from the point.

00:59:45.978 --> 00:59:46.317
That's right.

00:59:46.317 --> 00:59:46.677
Yeah.

00:59:46.677 --> 00:59:53.164
Right around there as well as like, OK, this movie can end right now and I'd be happy like I'm totally fine with this movie just being done now.

00:59:53.164 --> 00:59:55.045
So, Aaron, let's talk about the cast here.

00:59:55.045 --> 00:59:56.094
All right.

00:59:56.094 --> 00:59:58.597
You got Ben Schwartz as Sonic the Hedgehog.

00:59:58.597 --> 01:00:01.797
Colleen O'Shaughnessy as Miles Tails Prower.

01:00:01.858 --> 01:00:03.909
Idris Elba as Knuckles the Echidna.

01:00:03.909 --> 01:00:05.369
Keanu Reeves as Shadow the Hedgehog.

01:00:05.369 --> 01:00:06.380
Jim Carrey as Dr.

01:00:06.380 --> 01:00:09.101
Evo and Professor Gerald Robotnik.

01:00:09.101 --> 01:00:13.163
James Marsden, Tom Wachowski, Tika Sumter as Maddie Wachowski.

01:00:13.163 --> 01:00:17.003
Kristen Ritter didn't even fucking need to be like, she really phoned in.

01:00:17.003 --> 01:00:19.170
What a bummer for her to be in this movie, just in general.

01:00:19.170 --> 01:00:20.599
Like, yeah, such a great actor.

01:00:20.599 --> 01:00:22.041
Love Christian Ritter and everything she does.

01:00:22.041 --> 01:00:24.170
Jessica Jones, Breaking Bad, everything.

01:00:24.170 --> 01:00:24.471
Yeah.

01:00:24.471 --> 01:00:27.532
Director Rockwell and Lee Majube.

01:00:27.992 --> 01:00:30.612
I think that's how you say it as Agent Stone.

01:00:31.353 --> 01:00:41.675
Again, I'm just going to say, like, in order of best characters of this entire franchise, Jim Carrey as Robotnik and Lee Majube as Agent Stone.

01:00:41.675 --> 01:00:42.757
Yeah, absolutely.

01:00:42.757 --> 01:00:47.967
I would I would give anything just for a show or a movie with those two.

01:00:47.989 --> 01:00:51.871
Yeah, because there's a little bit of complexity there because you don't the relationship is sort of complex.

01:00:51.871 --> 01:01:01.755
Whereas Robotnik is this like mastermind villain and he sees he sees Agent Stone as nothing he sees him as nothing other than just like an assistant and it ends to a means.

01:01:01.755 --> 01:01:05.757
Whereas Agent Stone has like actual affection towards Robotnik Eggman.

01:01:05.757 --> 01:01:09.588
We sort of see that played out in this movie, which is again, kind of interesting.

01:01:09.588 --> 01:01:13.380
Like you're on the you're on the doorstep of interesting and they just don't go all the way there.

01:01:13.380 --> 01:01:19.335
Like it would have been nice if Agent Stone like just fully left Eggman at some point in this movie and became something else.

01:01:19.376 --> 01:01:24.409
I mean, I honestly thought that he was going to because at one point he's like, I'm going to go get him back.

01:01:24.409 --> 01:01:29.596
I thought he was going to figure out a way to become his own character, like his own level of person.

01:01:29.596 --> 01:01:35.110
And they like go and save Robotnik, which or sacrifice himself in some way that would have been sacrificed.

01:01:35.251 --> 01:01:41.427
Following the release of Sonic the Hedgehog 2, Jim Carrey actually said that he was considering retirement from acting producers Neil H.

01:01:41.427 --> 01:01:42.978
Moritz and Toby Asher.

01:01:42.978 --> 01:01:44.307
stated that Kerry's role as Dr.

01:01:44.307 --> 01:01:52.501
Robotnik would not be recast if he followed through with his plans, but remained hopeful that he would be willing to continue the role if the script was satisfactory to him.

01:01:52.501 --> 01:01:54.222
What script did Jim Kerry read?

01:01:54.222 --> 01:01:55.342
I'm wondering.

01:01:55.342 --> 01:01:56.952
They sent it to him on like a post-it note.

01:01:56.952 --> 01:02:01.994
I think they just like sat him in front of a Dreamcast and put in Sonic Adventures 2 and was like, you go.

01:02:01.994 --> 01:02:03.344
This is what the movie is going to be.

01:02:03.344 --> 01:02:04.184
Yeah.

01:02:04.184 --> 01:02:08.525
And then in February of 2024, he was confirmed to reprise his role for this film.

01:02:08.525 --> 01:02:13.505
making it the first time Carrie has starred in more than two films as the same character, which I find interesting.

01:02:13.505 --> 01:02:19.686
Isn't that funny that Jim Carrey throughout his entire incredible career, Hall of Fame comedian, just actor in general, has never done a sequel.

01:02:19.686 --> 01:02:23.786
Firstly, it wasn't until he has, but more than two films.

01:02:23.786 --> 01:02:24.536
like, correct.

01:02:24.536 --> 01:02:24.755
You're right.

01:02:24.755 --> 01:02:25.525
Yes.

01:02:25.525 --> 01:02:26.686
To a Centura.

01:02:26.686 --> 01:02:27.065
yeah.

01:02:27.065 --> 01:02:27.675
Yeah, that's correct.

01:02:27.675 --> 01:02:31.016
He's never done like a three Pete of a character.

01:02:31.016 --> 01:02:32.746
And yeah, he's done with this.

01:02:32.746 --> 01:02:36.226
So the sequence of Eggman getting his head shaved happened on set.

01:02:36.226 --> 01:02:41.099
That was actually Jim Carrey getting his haircut and it took a year and half for him to grow all the way out.

01:02:41.099 --> 01:02:42.001
And he had Dr.

01:02:42.001 --> 01:02:43.411
Sorry, Lee.

01:02:43.411 --> 01:02:47.402
How do we say Majob Majob Majob Majob cut his hair.

01:02:47.443 --> 01:02:52.976
Hayden Christian was rumored to play Shadow initially before Keanu Reeves was cast again.

01:02:52.976 --> 01:02:58.829
Aaron bordering on this idea that the fans are essentially deciding this franchise's track.

01:02:58.829 --> 01:03:02.632
Everyone was fan casting Keanu Reeves as Shadow for a long time.

01:03:02.632 --> 01:03:05.014
Would Hayden Christian would have been a better choice for this?

01:03:05.014 --> 01:03:05.710
I don't know.

01:03:05.710 --> 01:03:10.889
Because he's also known for his sort of monotone voice and sort of one note everything.

01:03:10.969 --> 01:03:16.760
But again, and I say this with all the love for Keanu Reeves and everything that he's done almost not good in this role.

01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:20.309
Like, I don't like him in this in this movie for any point.

01:03:20.309 --> 01:03:25.110
Like Shadow is sort of a one note out for vengeance until he's not.

01:03:25.110 --> 01:03:26.820
He is like, yeah, good.

01:03:26.820 --> 01:03:33.130
It's about the same as it's about the same as like Keanu Reeves being again in cyberpunk 2077.

01:03:33.150 --> 01:03:34.239
Nobody gives a shit.

01:03:34.239 --> 01:03:34.858
Yeah.

01:03:34.858 --> 01:03:36.478
Like he is not a voice actor.

01:03:36.478 --> 01:03:38.621
He is he is an he is an actor.

01:03:38.621 --> 01:03:39.282
Mm hmm.

01:03:39.282 --> 01:03:45.646
Like he's never been at least I've never I don't know what anything else besides those two things he's voice acting and maybe he's done more.

01:03:45.646 --> 01:03:50.411
But I would definitely bet you that it's nothing of of impact or significance.

01:03:50.411 --> 01:03:51.271
Right.

01:03:51.271 --> 01:03:56.876
And we have a we have an answer to our question earlier about the Super Saiyan versions of both Shadow and Sonic.

01:03:56.876 --> 01:04:03.000
So during their fight over the Master Emerald ultimate life form, Shadow turns into Super Shadow.

01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:07.630
This is the form seen during the final stage of Aaron again, Sonic Adventure 2.

01:04:07.630 --> 01:04:12.896
The ability is only finite and requires the player to pick up rings to stay alive.

01:04:13.056 --> 01:04:19.860
And as we said earlier, this film features the iconic main theme from Sonic Adventures to live and learn.

01:04:27.692 --> 01:04:42.257
Can you be Did your did your crowd go crazy for that as well?

01:04:42.257 --> 01:04:50.998
So that must have been when like when the when the moon when they were like flying through space and like destroying the robots and shit that must have been like guitar riffs and all that.

01:04:50.998 --> 01:04:51.177
Yeah.

01:04:51.177 --> 01:04:52.617
Yeah, that's exactly what it was.

01:04:52.617 --> 01:04:53.568
that makes sense now.

01:04:53.568 --> 01:04:57.697
Before we get into the end credits, which again, people loved.

01:04:57.697 --> 01:04:59.777
Do you have anything else you want to say about this film?

01:04:59.777 --> 01:05:07.137
I want to erase everything that does not have Jim Carrey in it.

01:05:07.809 --> 01:05:09.710
What was your favorite part of this movie?

01:05:09.931 --> 01:05:12.152
It honestly had to be the dance scene.

01:05:12.152 --> 01:05:15.764
OK, the dancing between both the Robotniks going into the gun.

01:05:15.764 --> 01:05:18.436
That's that was so fucking funny.

01:05:18.436 --> 01:05:19.356
It was so funny.

01:05:19.356 --> 01:05:22.998
Like when he's like, you know, he's like the lasers are hitting him.

01:05:22.998 --> 01:05:26.550
He's like, I've I've created a, you know, laser absorbing suit.

01:05:26.550 --> 01:05:27.641
It will not hurt you.

01:05:27.641 --> 01:05:30.489
And then they like, then I was like this.

01:05:30.489 --> 01:05:32.393
I was that's that was my favorite part.

01:05:32.393 --> 01:05:33.184
Yeah.

01:05:33.184 --> 01:05:37.166
You know, as we were just sort of poking fun at a moment ago, it is sort of hard to not.

01:05:37.166 --> 01:05:41.826
enjoy bits and pieces of that shadow Sonic fight at the end of the movie towards the third act.

01:05:41.826 --> 01:05:43.746
I think some parts of it are pretty cool.

01:05:43.746 --> 01:05:51.525
But overall, it was so hard to get behind it and completely get engulfed in that moment because it it was always where the movie was going to go.

01:05:51.525 --> 01:05:58.905
Never for one moment did I think that Shadow was not going to eventually go to the good guy side and help out against one of the Robotniks, whichever one it was going to be.

01:05:58.905 --> 01:06:01.005
so anticlimactic, though.

01:06:01.005 --> 01:06:02.545
And the fight was not really that great.

01:06:02.545 --> 01:06:04.981
It was just sort of cool to see them both get super power.

01:06:04.981 --> 01:06:15.467
And again, I think I might be slightly veiled by the Doby theater that I was in because that sound anytime that someone was getting hit or the punches it, you could feel it in your, in your back and in your legs.

01:06:15.467 --> 01:06:22.730
So that part may have been a little bit helpful for the moment, but overall, yeah, it's just, it's all like Vince works as good as the character.

01:06:22.730 --> 01:06:29.353
I like tails, you know, Colleen O'Shaughnessy as the character, obviously it just, Elba as our favorite Echidna knuckles.

01:06:29.353 --> 01:06:30.222
All of that's cool.

01:06:30.222 --> 01:06:32.376
Like I like all of that to a certain extent.

01:06:32.376 --> 01:06:35.047
But it's just the movie around these characters is so stupid.

01:06:35.047 --> 01:06:36.827
Aaron, let's talk about the end credit scenes.

01:06:36.827 --> 01:06:38.628
I'll be honest with you and everybody listening.

01:06:38.628 --> 01:06:42.472
I was so annoyed with my audience that I left before the second end credit scene.

01:06:42.472 --> 01:06:46.030
I didn't know there was a second end credit scene until I looked it up afterwards.

01:06:46.050 --> 01:06:53.311
Well, that's OK, because I don't know if you know this or not, but all of the end credit scenes have been leaked online anyway.

01:06:53.311 --> 01:06:56.063
So people have been watching them for a while now.

01:06:56.063 --> 01:06:57.213
I didn't know that, actually.

01:06:57.213 --> 01:07:00.304
Yeah, they they had been leaked both of the scenes.

01:07:00.304 --> 01:07:01.001
And so.

01:07:01.001 --> 01:07:12.409
Again, the fact that people were so needing to stand up and fucking scream like ravenous fucking creatures in the audience.

01:07:13.871 --> 01:07:18.914
Like I was just, my God, I never wanted to punch so many people in the fucking face.

01:07:19.155 --> 01:07:26.539
But the first scene shows Sonic once again, like we announced, like going right back to where they were at the beginning of the movie.

01:07:26.539 --> 01:07:27.771
He's running through the forest.

01:07:27.771 --> 01:07:29.081
He looks up and he stops running.

01:07:29.081 --> 01:07:31.684
Finally, he's like, He sees a sign for New York.

01:07:31.684 --> 01:07:35.313
He's like, I definitely overshot that finish line.

01:07:35.313 --> 01:07:40.463
He thinks he's alone, but all of sudden Sonic comes face to face with a robot that shares his same design.

01:07:40.463 --> 01:07:41.514
So looks just like him.

01:07:41.514 --> 01:07:43.094
This is Metal Sonic.

01:07:43.094 --> 01:07:45.853
And then people were going fucking nuts.

01:07:45.853 --> 01:07:51.764
And then all of a sudden, after Sonic fights a singular robot, he realizes there's like dozens of them.

01:07:51.764 --> 01:08:00.175
He's like, some kid was like, there's an army! And so, yeah, so and then they start like fighting and trying to like all of a sudden.

01:08:00.190 --> 01:08:21.962
While the odds are stacked against Sonic he is saved from the metal Sonic robots by a hooded figure wielding a massive mallets and once again people start Losing their fucking mind because they see this hammer Yeah, those familiar with the games are sure to recognize the yellow and red pico pico hammer before the hooded figure reveals their identity This is Amy Rose a pink hedgehog.

01:08:21.962 --> 01:08:28.414
Let's go Aaron And she saved Sonic from his imminent doom.

01:08:28.414 --> 01:08:33.190
I'm so sorry for like putting the same thing that I went through onto people's ears right now.

01:08:33.291 --> 01:08:35.521
She's saying- We're not doing it during a movie though, Aaron.

01:08:35.521 --> 01:08:37.671
That's the difference between us and them.

01:08:37.671 --> 01:08:39.332
It still feels shitty.

01:08:39.332 --> 01:08:44.354
It still feels really If I could even have that self-awareness is all that matters in this moment.

01:08:44.493 --> 01:08:49.935
Although the two do not exchange any words that they're the first encounter, Amy Rose quickly proves to be Sonic's ally.

01:08:49.935 --> 01:08:52.815
So Amy Rose is a major character in the Sonic the Hedgehog video game.

01:08:52.815 --> 01:08:58.398
She has been part of the franchise since 93 when she've made her first appearance in Sonic CD.

01:08:58.605 --> 01:09:01.996
Amy is a bright and positive character who often has a crush on Sonic.

01:09:01.996 --> 01:09:11.185
She was taken by Metal Sonic in her first appearance and saved by Sonic later in the game, setting up her to be a recurring character alongside Team Sonic in future adventures.

01:09:11.405 --> 01:09:18.006
I don't even I've obviously seen this character throughout my history of playing Sonic, but no attachment to her whatsoever.

01:09:18.006 --> 01:09:28.587
Well, the end credits scene that I missed the second post credit scene, this is after the actual the actual credits puts the focus back on Shadow the Hedgehog Keanu Reeves is black hedgehog seemingly died at the end of the film.

01:09:28.587 --> 01:09:32.199
This scene shows Shadow picking up his wrist ring that he lost earlier in the finale.

01:09:32.199 --> 01:09:42.706
The ring known as the limiter rings or the inhibitor rings in the games returns to the black hedgehog of the same power levels that he was at previously, seemingly confirming that Shadow was alive.

01:09:42.766 --> 01:09:43.777
Shocker, everybody.

01:09:43.777 --> 01:09:44.847
Shadows come back.

01:09:44.847 --> 01:09:45.337
Who knew?

01:09:45.337 --> 01:09:45.797
Right.

01:09:45.797 --> 01:09:48.720
Again, just following the footsteps of Fast and Furious.

01:09:48.720 --> 01:09:51.962
Like this is I'm telling you, this is just Fast and Furious with Sonic characters.

01:09:51.962 --> 01:09:52.481
That's all it is.

01:09:52.481 --> 01:09:53.033
Yeah.

01:09:53.033 --> 01:09:55.564
I don't understand, like really.

01:09:55.615 --> 01:09:59.719
Why the limiter bracelets they never explain that's one thing they never explain the show.

01:09:59.719 --> 01:10:14.007
They never say how powerful is they got to put limiter bracelets on him The other thing is they they don't explain why he has Chaos power that he's supposed to be an ultimate life form But he why why did he come to earth and like a fucking meteorite looking thing?

01:10:14.007 --> 01:10:22.724
Like there's there is zero explanation in this movie to make us understand what's going on I think there's rumors that he's gonna get his own peacock show.

01:10:22.724 --> 01:10:32.980
That's that's what i've heard is that similar to Knuckles, he'll get his own little show that sort of knuckles and explain sort of his backstory and all that, which everybody wants.

01:10:32.980 --> 01:10:34.261
Aaron, we're so excited about.

01:10:34.261 --> 01:10:35.953
OK, final thoughts on Sonic 3.

01:10:35.953 --> 01:10:37.975
Very popular.

01:10:37.975 --> 01:10:42.757
It's I'm I'm exhausted just from reliving the experience.

01:10:42.757 --> 01:10:44.498
They say you got to you know, you got to heal.

01:10:44.498 --> 01:10:46.780
You got to feel it to heal it.

01:10:47.140 --> 01:10:48.082
And did we feel it?

01:10:48.082 --> 01:10:48.882
Did we ever feel it?

01:10:48.882 --> 01:10:52.043
I felt I felt that I am anxious all over again.

01:10:52.545 --> 01:10:54.082
Thoughts really just.

01:10:54.082 --> 01:10:59.527
Good God, this is a terrible movie with a couple of good scenes.

01:10:59.527 --> 01:11:08.113
And again, if I could erase every single other thing about this movie other than the robotnik scenes, I would be fine.

01:11:08.314 --> 01:11:09.123
I'll echo all that.

01:11:09.123 --> 01:11:10.005
That's exactly how I feel.

01:11:10.005 --> 01:11:10.916
It's funny.

01:11:10.916 --> 01:11:13.438
I've been to the movies a lot here in December.

01:11:13.438 --> 01:11:15.539
I went and saw Craving the Hunter for our review.

01:11:15.539 --> 01:11:17.440
Go listen to that review, everybody, from last week.

01:11:17.440 --> 01:11:19.221
Then I went to see Interstellar again.

01:11:19.221 --> 01:11:20.012
70 millimeter.

01:11:20.012 --> 01:11:21.265
Incredible experience.

01:11:21.265 --> 01:11:23.405
Then I saw Sonic 3 the next day.

01:11:23.405 --> 01:11:25.586
And then I'm seeing Nosferatu in two days.

01:11:25.586 --> 01:11:27.796
So it's like bad, good, bad, good.

01:11:27.796 --> 01:11:30.046
I'm just going to keep trading off for the rest of the year.

01:11:30.046 --> 01:11:34.025
I would rather sit through watching Madame Webb again.

01:11:34.025 --> 01:11:34.865
Really?

01:11:34.865 --> 01:11:35.256
Yeah.

01:11:35.256 --> 01:11:36.206
Than this?

01:11:36.206 --> 01:11:36.636
Than this.

01:11:36.636 --> 01:11:39.756
I don't know if I, I don't know if I would say it.

01:11:39.756 --> 01:11:50.644
Like the same experiences, like the same, you, if you had to give me like a level of hell and they said, Hey, you got to sit here and watch Madame Webb, like till the end of the end of time.

01:11:50.710 --> 01:11:58.484
in that same experience or you got to sit here and you got to watch Sonic 3 in that same experience till the end of time with a packed crowd of ravenous Sonic fan.

01:11:58.484 --> 01:11:58.984
Exactly.

01:11:58.984 --> 01:11:59.425
Exactly.

01:11:59.425 --> 01:12:01.845
Same exact experience just for for an infinite amount of time.

01:12:01.845 --> 01:12:04.957
I would rather watch Madame Web.

01:12:04.957 --> 01:12:05.847
OK, all right.

01:12:05.847 --> 01:12:07.734
Well, let's rate this thing at a five David Wires.

01:12:07.734 --> 01:12:09.750
Aaron, what are you to give Sonic 3?

01:12:09.760 --> 01:12:10.461
One.

01:12:10.461 --> 01:12:12.662
OK, let's see here.

01:12:12.702 --> 01:12:14.743
We talked about how Craven.

01:12:14.743 --> 01:12:17.465
We both gave Craven a was it a two point five?

01:12:17.465 --> 01:12:20.605
Mm This is worse than Craven.

01:12:20.717 --> 01:12:23.658
And for that reason, sharks, I'm to give it a two again.

01:12:23.658 --> 01:12:24.738
Some good parts.

01:12:24.738 --> 01:12:28.377
I think I gave Madame Webber reviewed it either a one or one point five.

01:12:28.377 --> 01:12:34.837
And I disagree with you on that slightly that I think this movie is better than Madame Webber, but only in like the smallest amount of ways.

01:12:34.837 --> 01:12:35.297
So.

01:12:35.297 --> 01:12:36.337
All right.

01:12:36.337 --> 01:12:42.238
Let's put a pen or I guess we can close the book even on Sonic three and our last movie review of the year.

01:12:42.238 --> 01:12:45.137
And what a way to end 2024.

01:12:45.698 --> 01:12:46.698
What a year.

01:12:46.698 --> 01:12:48.007
What a year it's been, of course.

01:12:48.007 --> 01:12:48.837
And.

01:12:49.131 --> 01:12:55.904
I guess it's time for our final segment over in your corner of the Oblivion Bar podcast, which is Aaron's Arcade.

01:12:57.837 --> 01:13:00.743
It's time for Aaron's Arcade.

01:13:04.238 --> 01:13:05.297
Greetings.

01:13:05.478 --> 01:13:08.278
I am talking about Article 99.

01:13:08.278 --> 01:13:15.247
This movie is from 1992 starring Ray Liotta, Kiefer Sutherland, Forest Whitaker, Leah Thompson, John Mahoney, John C.

01:13:15.247 --> 01:13:17.658
McGinley, Keith David and Kathy Baker.

01:13:17.658 --> 01:13:21.198
And honestly, a slew of others who are in the cast.

01:13:21.198 --> 01:13:22.938
It's an amazing cast.

01:13:22.938 --> 01:13:27.377
And I had never heard of this until somebody suggested it to me.

01:13:27.578 --> 01:13:35.481
And, you know, I actually decided to watch this as a review for another, you know, thing like like thing that I do.

01:13:35.882 --> 01:13:40.006
And I wanted to talk about this because you as a veteran also will understand.

01:13:40.006 --> 01:13:42.247
So this is a movie that is basically.

01:13:43.247 --> 01:13:44.328
E.R.

01:13:44.328 --> 01:13:46.310
but in a VA hospital.

01:13:46.310 --> 01:13:48.061
OK, it's like to a degree.

01:13:48.061 --> 01:13:55.676
So not Article 99 is a dramedy set in a beleaguered veterans hospital where a group of dedicated doctors led by Dr.

01:13:55.676 --> 01:14:02.786
Richard Sturgis, you know, Ray Liotta, struggled to provide care to their patient patients amidst bureaucratic chaos and underfunding.

01:14:02.786 --> 01:14:11.171
The title refers to a regulation that disqualifies veterans from receiving treatment for conditions not explicitly related to their military service.

01:14:11.391 --> 01:14:21.359
As the doctors face mounting obstacles, including a lack of resources and an uncooperative administration, they resort to unconventional and often rebellious methods to ensure their patients receive the care they deserve.

01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:28.042
The film blends humor and drama to highlight the challenges within the health care system and the moral dilemmas faced by those trying to navigate it.

01:14:28.042 --> 01:14:32.065
It offers a mix of poignant moments and satire underscoring the human costs of Eureka.

01:14:32.065 --> 01:14:34.436
Bureaucratic in a insufficiency or inefficiency.

01:14:34.436 --> 01:14:35.408
Excuse me.

01:14:35.587 --> 01:14:36.578
Is this movie like quick?

01:14:36.578 --> 01:14:37.988
Is this streaming anywhere?

01:14:38.770 --> 01:14:42.221
So I watched it on Roku TV.

01:14:42.221 --> 01:14:42.891
Okay.

01:14:42.891 --> 01:14:44.682
And like to be or something like that.

01:14:44.682 --> 01:14:45.746
I want to watch it.

01:14:45.746 --> 01:14:46.793
That's why I was curious.

01:14:46.793 --> 01:14:47.234
Yeah.

01:14:47.234 --> 01:14:53.698
So it's like it's like with commercials, but they're not very long commercials, but it's it's a very interesting movie.

01:14:53.698 --> 01:14:55.899
It's RIP to Ray Liotta, too.

01:14:55.899 --> 01:14:56.378
Yes.

01:14:56.378 --> 01:15:01.261
This movie is honestly like one that I never anticipated to be as good as it was.

01:15:01.618 --> 01:15:02.859
It's emotional.

01:15:02.859 --> 01:15:14.407
If you've ever been to a VA VA hospital, if you've ever been around veterans like I am one who I go around if I see a veteran wearing like, you know, like a hat or jacket or something that I thank them for their service.

01:15:14.407 --> 01:15:24.753
This movie paints a harsh reality, but even back in the 90s where we still actually see the VAs like this, where it's so hard for people to get health care.

01:15:24.753 --> 01:15:27.576
They basically have to nearly die in the waiting rooms.

01:15:27.576 --> 01:15:46.018
Like it's a very grim look, but it's like this staff of doctors is trying to do their best to come up with the resources to take care of these heroes, these metal and award-winning soldiers, mostly from Vietnam, Korean War.

01:15:46.597 --> 01:15:48.398
There are times where it's hard to watch.

01:15:48.398 --> 01:15:50.118
There are times where it's really good.

01:15:50.118 --> 01:15:53.778
I'm not gonna lie, this movie got me kind of emotional in several scenes.

01:15:54.217 --> 01:15:56.750
it really is, it's like...

01:15:56.750 --> 01:16:02.850
If you've been to a VA, if you've been around veterans, then you'll feel a bit of nostalgia for how this movie will make you feel.

01:16:02.850 --> 01:16:08.789
Not nostalgia, like in a good way, but like that, I kind of almost like that, that muscle memory of like, this is painful.

01:16:09.130 --> 01:16:17.159
The movie opens with a guy basically being told that he has PTSD and they cannot treat it at the VA because they don't have the resources.

01:16:17.159 --> 01:16:20.949
So they basically give him, he's, he is an article 99 patient.

01:16:20.949 --> 01:16:22.072
So he...

01:16:22.072 --> 01:16:29.146
gets into his pickup truck and he drives it through the front door and starts walking the hallways with an M16 trying to find the people responsible for his treatment.

01:16:29.146 --> 01:16:32.649
Another guy is like trying to get a heart, he needs a triple bypass.

01:16:32.649 --> 01:16:37.072
And so he can't get care because he's not even enrolled in the VA yet.

01:16:37.113 --> 01:16:38.984
So it's just, the whole thing is insane.

01:16:38.984 --> 01:16:49.702
So I would love for people to go and watch this and kind of see where we are now, where we were then and where we still are in capacities of both.

01:16:49.953 --> 01:16:56.278
I mean, I can you firsthand, everybody, I'm sure Aaron maybe could echo this, the VA, it's not all bad people.

01:16:56.278 --> 01:17:01.220
Obviously it's just a terribly run organization that is trying to do a good thing.

01:17:01.440 --> 01:17:04.733
And they make, they don't make the process easy.

01:17:04.733 --> 01:17:05.094
Everybody.

01:17:05.094 --> 01:17:09.006
I'll tell you that they talk about how you get free healthcare as a veteran.

01:17:09.006 --> 01:17:15.510
Sure you do, but what's the quality of that care firstly, but also how easy, how obtainable is it also?

01:17:15.694 --> 01:17:16.774
So that's interesting.

01:17:16.774 --> 01:17:23.033
I'm going to be honest, like I said, like, mean, with with my experience here at the VA where I live in Brooklyn, my experience has been really good.

01:17:23.033 --> 01:17:29.594
There have some been some obstacles and some hang ups, but nothing has stopped me from actually getting any of the treatment or the care that I needed.

01:17:29.594 --> 01:17:33.734
So there is it is definitely become a long way.

01:17:33.734 --> 01:17:36.003
And I can even say decades of difference.

01:17:36.003 --> 01:17:40.154
But there's still things that feel very familiar in this movie.

01:17:40.154 --> 01:17:42.514
And it's and it's it's sad and it's kind of scary.

01:17:42.514 --> 01:18:00.078
But at the same time, this is a movie that I feel like people have not had people not not enough people have on the radar because it's just it's a star-studded cast the the the Kind of plot at one point kind of takes a little bit of a background to like a little mini love story That's not necessary.

01:18:00.078 --> 01:18:03.520
But at the end of the day, it's still a pretty impactful film.

01:18:03.520 --> 01:18:04.020
Sure.

01:18:04.020 --> 01:18:09.106
So I'm not gonna take yeah, check it out I'm not gonna take up too much time next.

01:18:09.106 --> 01:18:18.152
We're go into my favorite part of the show, which is Chris's corner It's time for Chris's Corner.

01:18:23.680 --> 01:18:27.070
All righty, this week for Chris's Corner, pretty basic stuff, everybody.

01:18:27.070 --> 01:18:29.542
Again, this is our last episode of the year before our last call.

01:18:29.542 --> 01:18:31.692
We're not going to have another Aaron's Arcade or Chris's Corner.

01:18:31.692 --> 01:18:36.694
So I thought I would share my top 10 favorite movies of the year, everybody.

01:18:36.694 --> 01:18:41.175
And I'll include a link in the show notes in case you want to check out the entire list.

01:18:41.175 --> 01:18:44.710
This is all the movies that I saw in theaters this year.

01:18:44.710 --> 01:18:44.966
I'm sorry.

01:18:44.966 --> 01:18:46.027
I guess I shouldn't say in theaters.

01:18:46.027 --> 01:18:47.037
Some of them were streaming.

01:18:47.037 --> 01:18:47.997
Some of my salt home.

01:18:47.997 --> 01:18:51.500
But these are all twenty twenty four twenty twenty four movies that I've seen this year.

01:18:51.500 --> 01:18:55.472
So just for reference, there are 66 movies on this list.

01:18:55.472 --> 01:18:57.154
I saw a lot of movies this year.

01:18:57.154 --> 01:19:00.020
Not all of them were great, but I think 2024 was a pretty good year.

01:19:00.020 --> 01:19:04.757
And there's still a couple left that I haven't seen yet, like The Brutalist and Nosferatu.

01:19:04.957 --> 01:19:12.443
And I think there's one other one that came out this year that I'm still waiting to see, but Conclave I haven't seen yet, which I'm excited to think it's going to be on Peacock next week.

01:19:12.443 --> 01:19:15.421
So here are two honorable mentions at number 12.

01:19:15.421 --> 01:19:16.305
have Wicked.

01:19:16.305 --> 01:19:17.716
What are you laughing at, Aaron?

01:19:17.890 --> 01:19:21.250
I'm laughing at Madame Webb being like number 66.

01:19:22.051 --> 01:19:23.216
Well, everybody, it's pretty bad.

01:19:23.216 --> 01:19:26.533
So it's you know, it deserves that 66th rank.

01:19:26.533 --> 01:19:29.292
So as we just said a moment ago during our review of Sonic.

01:19:29.292 --> 01:19:33.452
So number 12, these are sorry, these are my two honorable mentions that number 12.

01:19:33.452 --> 01:19:35.375
have wicked part one.

01:19:35.595 --> 01:19:38.195
We defied gravity air and a couple of weeks ago and it was a lot of fun.

01:19:38.195 --> 01:19:45.003
So number 11, I have the substance to wildly different movies, the substance and wicked, but two very good ones at that.

01:19:45.003 --> 01:19:48.255
I have them both at, I want to say four stars each.

01:19:48.536 --> 01:19:49.176
Number 10.

01:19:49.176 --> 01:19:51.896
So first one on the list, I have Deadpool Wolverine.

01:19:52.056 --> 01:19:53.346
So we didn't cover here on the show.

01:19:53.346 --> 01:19:54.438
were on break.

01:19:54.557 --> 01:20:02.211
Number nine, I have the first Omen, the prequel to the Omen trilogy that came out earlier this year, directed by our Kasha Stevenson.

01:20:02.211 --> 01:20:07.722
I want to say also stars Nell Tiger Free, who's awesome in the movie.

01:20:07.722 --> 01:20:08.253
Really great.

01:20:08.253 --> 01:20:14.365
This is essentially how Damien was eventually born and then eventually adopted by the people in the original movie.

01:20:14.381 --> 01:20:16.101
Number eight, my favorite horror film of the year.

01:20:16.101 --> 01:20:17.391
have heretic again.

01:20:17.391 --> 01:20:20.721
That's Sophie Thatcher, Chloe East, Hugh Grant favorite.

01:20:20.721 --> 01:20:25.561
It's actually no, it's not my favorite a 24 movie, but it is my second favorite a 24 movie.

01:20:25.561 --> 01:20:31.521
Number seven, I have Saturday night, which is about the first recording of the Saturday night live Saturday night live.

01:20:31.521 --> 01:20:32.421
Very good.

01:20:32.421 --> 01:20:33.402
Loved it.

01:20:33.402 --> 01:20:35.761
Number six came with a plenty of apes.

01:20:35.761 --> 01:20:36.631
We covered that here on the show.

01:20:36.631 --> 01:20:37.462
Didn't we earn?

01:20:37.462 --> 01:20:38.782
No, I thought we did.

01:20:38.782 --> 01:20:39.502
Maybe not.

01:20:39.502 --> 01:20:40.332
Might have been on a break.

01:20:40.332 --> 01:20:41.181
Really good.

01:20:41.181 --> 01:20:43.948
I love the new direction of the plane of the apes movies.

01:20:43.948 --> 01:20:45.878
Number five, we have a Nora.

01:20:45.878 --> 01:20:47.519
Do you ever seen a Nora, Aaron?

01:20:47.519 --> 01:20:48.198
Nope, not yet.

01:20:48.198 --> 01:20:48.979
OK.

01:20:48.979 --> 01:20:52.600
Number four is like ignore, ignore.

01:20:53.240 --> 01:20:54.591
Nailed it.

01:20:54.591 --> 01:20:57.042
Number four, we have the bike riders.

01:20:57.042 --> 01:21:00.262
Austin Butler, Jodie Comer, Tom Hardy.

01:21:00.262 --> 01:21:01.283
Really good movie.

01:21:01.283 --> 01:21:02.382
You see that one?

01:21:02.543 --> 01:21:02.833
Nope.

01:21:02.833 --> 01:21:03.604
OK.

01:21:03.604 --> 01:21:05.363
Number three, we have a real pain.

01:21:05.363 --> 01:21:08.154
That's Karen Kolkin, Jesse Eisenberg.

01:21:08.154 --> 01:21:08.715
Really good.

01:21:08.715 --> 01:21:09.805
You see that one?

01:21:09.805 --> 01:21:10.326
Nope.

01:21:10.326 --> 01:21:11.054
OK.

01:21:11.054 --> 01:21:13.524
Number two, I have my favorite 824 movie of the year.

01:21:13.524 --> 01:21:15.694
And actually I want to say this is like one B.

01:21:15.694 --> 01:21:20.033
This is, it's at number two, but I think it's, it's like arguably my favorite movie of the year.

01:21:20.033 --> 01:21:24.753
Number one, that's Sing Sing with Coleman Domingo favorite 824 movie of the year.

01:21:24.753 --> 01:21:25.703
Absolutely incredible.

01:21:25.703 --> 01:21:36.054
It's about how a gentleman basically creates a, I say gentleman he is, but he's also an inmate and he creates a, a theater program for the in the inmates there.

01:21:36.054 --> 01:21:37.274
And it's based on a true story.

01:21:37.274 --> 01:21:38.354
Have you seen that one here?

01:21:38.354 --> 01:21:38.774
Nope.

01:21:38.774 --> 01:21:39.654
Okay.

01:21:39.858 --> 01:21:43.831
Number one very different taste I want to go through all these real quick.

01:21:43.831 --> 01:21:49.885
I'm gonna I'm gonna bust through some of these I'm gonna see if you've seen them But but first I number one doing part two we cover here on the show.

01:21:49.885 --> 01:21:50.715
It's fucking awesome.

01:21:50.715 --> 01:21:52.777
It's very good Everybody knows Dean part two is great.

01:21:52.777 --> 01:21:54.188
So let me go back.

01:21:54.188 --> 01:21:56.670
Let's see Wicked part one.

01:21:56.670 --> 01:21:57.590
Give me a yay or nay.

01:21:57.590 --> 01:21:57.819
Yay.

01:21:57.819 --> 01:21:58.701
We covered on this show.

01:21:58.701 --> 01:22:01.302
I know I'm just going through Subsist the substance.

01:22:01.302 --> 01:22:01.502
Yay.

01:22:01.502 --> 01:22:03.184
Okay, Deadpool Wolverine.

01:22:03.184 --> 01:22:03.713
Yay.

01:22:03.713 --> 01:22:10.328
First omen nay heretic nay Saturday night nay came to the planet Anora.

01:22:10.328 --> 01:22:10.979
Nay.

01:22:10.979 --> 01:22:11.559
Bike riders.

01:22:11.559 --> 01:22:12.000
Nay.

01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:12.579
A real pain.

01:22:12.579 --> 01:22:13.000
Nay.

01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:13.501
Sing Sing.

01:22:13.501 --> 01:22:14.360
Nay.

01:22:14.501 --> 01:22:15.082
part two.

01:22:15.082 --> 01:22:16.242
Yay.

01:22:16.823 --> 01:22:18.944
You've only seen like what one or two of those.

01:22:18.944 --> 01:22:21.551
I think it's three actually three movies of my top 12.

01:22:21.551 --> 01:22:22.707
What's going on?

01:22:22.806 --> 01:22:24.287
I've seen four.

01:22:24.738 --> 01:22:25.248
which ones?

01:22:25.248 --> 01:22:25.559
come on.

01:22:25.559 --> 01:22:27.220
You saw you saw you saw substance.

01:22:27.220 --> 01:22:28.360
Substance.

01:22:28.360 --> 01:22:29.641
Wicked Deadpool Wolverine.

01:22:29.641 --> 01:22:30.872
That's That's right.

01:22:30.993 --> 01:22:36.676
The thing is, OK, the thing is, like, I want to watch heretic, but I asked Carly, she wanted to watch it.

01:22:36.676 --> 01:22:37.457
She said yes.

01:22:37.457 --> 01:22:38.444
OK, but.

01:22:38.444 --> 01:22:39.465
She doesn't want to watch it at night.

01:22:39.465 --> 01:22:41.015
That's fair.

01:22:41.015 --> 01:22:41.506
That's fair.

01:22:41.506 --> 01:22:42.506
Yes.

01:22:42.506 --> 01:22:47.378
Saturday night, we were supposed to go see that in a screening, but we something happened.

01:22:47.378 --> 01:22:48.229
Planet of the Apes.

01:22:48.229 --> 01:22:49.779
You know, I'm getting to those.

01:22:49.779 --> 01:22:50.661
Anora.

01:22:50.661 --> 01:22:52.030
think we might watch that.

01:22:52.030 --> 01:22:52.622
I'm not sure.

01:22:52.622 --> 01:22:53.782
I don't really know.

01:22:53.782 --> 01:22:55.222
Bike riders I have no interest in.

01:22:55.222 --> 01:22:55.884
A real pain.

01:22:55.884 --> 01:22:59.244
We were actually supposed to go see that when we got into our hit and run accident.

01:22:59.244 --> 01:23:00.805
So we ended up not seeing that.

01:23:00.805 --> 01:23:01.396
Sing Sing.

01:23:01.396 --> 01:23:02.987
I love Coleman Domingo.

01:23:03.167 --> 01:23:06.408
Have not watched it because actually hadn't heard of that one yet.

01:23:06.408 --> 01:23:07.681
there's like, you know.

01:23:07.681 --> 01:23:11.682
We do have like similar, obviously, taste in movies.

01:23:11.682 --> 01:23:19.916
There's been there's a couple that I did want to ask you about, though, because I remember you specifically saying that you didn't really like I saw the TV glow.

01:23:19.916 --> 01:23:20.362
Right.

01:23:20.362 --> 01:23:20.916
No, no, no.

01:23:20.916 --> 01:23:21.564
I said I did.

01:23:21.564 --> 01:23:23.266
I just didn't fully understand it.

01:23:23.266 --> 01:23:23.725
God.

01:23:23.725 --> 01:23:24.136
OK.

01:23:24.136 --> 01:23:30.559
It's one of it's very similar to when I went to go see Queer, where I couldn't I just couldn't wrap my arms around it.

01:23:30.559 --> 01:23:32.479
Like the movie was smarter than I was.

01:23:32.479 --> 01:23:33.242
And I.

01:23:33.242 --> 01:23:37.922
I think I just needed to maybe listen to an audio commentary or something to fully grasp what the movie was about.

01:23:37.922 --> 01:23:39.623
You also have little arms.

01:23:39.623 --> 01:23:40.554
You know, have little baby arms.

01:23:40.554 --> 01:23:45.404
You know, I'm sensitive about it, It's what you actually saw Borderlands.

01:23:45.404 --> 01:23:47.305
I did at home.

01:23:47.826 --> 01:23:48.261
OK.

01:23:48.261 --> 01:23:49.756
Yeah, I didn't go see it somewhere.

01:23:49.756 --> 01:23:52.167
Should I talk about my last five?

01:23:52.186 --> 01:23:53.007
Sure.

01:23:53.007 --> 01:23:53.948
Bottom five here.

01:23:53.948 --> 01:23:54.908
Bottom five.

01:23:54.908 --> 01:23:56.929
We have Madden Webb last place at 66.

01:23:56.929 --> 01:24:01.210
I gave it a one star Borderlands, then venom.

01:24:01.210 --> 01:24:04.807
It's funny that the Bottom three are nerd related movies.

01:24:04.807 --> 01:24:07.569
Venom, The Last Dance, actually the bottom four.

01:24:07.569 --> 01:24:09.240
Yeah, the bottom four.

01:24:09.240 --> 01:24:12.988
then the so basically it goes down a web borderlands venom.

01:24:12.988 --> 01:24:16.136
The Last Dance Watchmen Chapter one, which is an abomination.

01:24:16.136 --> 01:24:20.078
And then speaking of abominations, the new roadhouse, all terrible.

01:24:20.779 --> 01:24:22.840
I like the new roadhouse.

01:24:22.840 --> 01:24:23.451
You're silly.

01:24:23.451 --> 01:24:26.323
I don't understand that.

01:24:26.323 --> 01:24:30.826
OK, and just for reference, Sonic three is at number thirty nine.

01:24:30.826 --> 01:24:32.210
That's Weird.

01:24:32.210 --> 01:24:38.002
So like you liked Sonic 3 more than you liked Transformers.

01:24:38.002 --> 01:24:39.882
No, it's right there below Transformers one.

01:24:39.882 --> 01:24:41.863
Like almost as much as you like Transformers one.

01:24:41.863 --> 01:24:43.373
I didn't like Transformers one as much.

01:24:43.373 --> 01:24:45.234
No, that was fine.

01:24:45.255 --> 01:24:51.395
But it was it wasn't I think right where Transformers one is is where I start to like at least enjoy the movies.

01:24:51.396 --> 01:24:52.497
Self-reliance.

01:24:52.497 --> 01:24:53.926
That was that was funny.

01:24:53.926 --> 01:24:54.807
That was a funny movie.

01:24:54.807 --> 01:24:55.518
I enjoyed that one.

01:24:55.518 --> 01:24:56.188
Yeah.

01:24:56.301 --> 01:24:56.771
Okay.

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Give Aaron and I both a follow.

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All right, everybody, that'll do it for episode 178 and that'll do it for 2024 and sort of in a way we've got one more episode next week.

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Again, our last call awards, which is our sort of year in review.

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Basically all of our favorite things, our least favorite things, all of the, all the things just in general.

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after that, we'll basically be taking all of January 2025 off, but we'll talk more about that next week.

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Aaron, yo, take us out of here.

01:25:31.104 --> 01:25:31.475
Sure.

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Did you delete something?

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No, I added Ryan.

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I've got a new we had a new picture.

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Shout out to Ryan.

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If you want to support the show without reading again here, I'm going to add something really quick.

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And Chris is messing with me.

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Okay.

01:27:18.810 --> 01:27:19.380
All right, buddy.

01:27:19.380 --> 01:27:20.890
Thank you so much.

01:27:20.890 --> 01:27:21.539
Got a flat.

01:27:21.539 --> 01:27:23.854
What's what's what's a saying from Sonic?

01:27:23.854 --> 01:27:24.953
I was gonna say gotta go fast.

01:27:24.953 --> 01:27:25.703
Gotta go fast.

01:27:25.703 --> 01:27:28.673
I was gonna say gotta blast, but that's Jimmy Neutron.

01:27:28.673 --> 01:27:29.703
Jimmy Neutron.

01:27:29.703 --> 01:27:30.213
Gotta blast.

01:27:30.213 --> 01:27:31.234
Gotta blast.

01:27:31.234 --> 01:27:31.684
All right, buddy.

01:27:31.684 --> 01:27:32.184
Thank you so much.

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We'll see you next week for episode 179.